RUSSIA - UKRAINE 2022 CONFLICT
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"While his whole post is accurate truth that I am too dumb to reproach."
There, I fixed your last sentence for you.
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Fuck you too you facist piece of shit
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Are you that dumb you don't know that Russia is destroying Ukraine despite fighting at a heavy numerical disadvantage?ragingboner wrote: ↑Wed Sep 14, 2022 6:26 pmMan this is some next level cope, you think Russia has an army that could stand up to the US or NATO, yet Russia doesen't even have the best army in Ukraine xD.MVitaly5 wrote: ↑Wed Sep 14, 2022 4:59 pmTo be honest, I'm getting tired of discussing this conflict, because I don't think we can have a constructive conversation here.
All people fall into four categories.
1). Who, support the position of Russia.
2). Who, support Ukraine and NATO. (I did not write NATO for nothing, because Russia is actually already at war with the entire NATO bloc, only without an official declaration of war. The Ukrainian army has no weapons of its own for a long time, and all military equipment is Western, and military instructors and mercenaries from NATO countries).
3). Who maintain a neutral position and try to understand the situation analytically.
4). Who don't give a shit about this at all, and more and more of them, because their personal lives are rapidly deteriorating.
And most importantly, there is so much manipulation and lies of public opinion in this conflict that people who have no real contact with the people directly in charge of making decisions have absolutely no adequate information.
You see, it's useless to answer anything, much less prove anything to people like Jean. He watched his TV set and everything is already "clear" to him. He refers to the human rights organization "AMNESTY INTERNATIONAL". And who controls and funds this organization, he wondered? Can we believe it or should this information at least be verified? The same organization, apparently by accident))), wrote an article about the Ukrainian army, so they were forced to almost apologize for it. And they started making excuses for it. Here it is.
https://www.amnesty.org.uk/press-releas ... -areas-new
I have a lot of military friends and war correspondents, and even I don't fully know the situation on the fronts, much less the plans of the general staff of Russia or Ukraine. For Ukraine it is clear, western curators decide everything for them.
In this regard, I will tell you my subjective view of the situation at the moment.
On the Russian side, there is a military grouping of about 170,000 soldiers and officers on the Ukrainian fronts. Plus about 30,000 Rosgvardia personnel who are ensuring order in the liberated territories. Plus 30000-50000 soldiers of the DNR and LNR people's militia.
The Ukrainian army has already had four waves of mobilization since the start of the conflict. Also thousands of international mercenaries are fighting. There are also many NATO instructors fighting. At the moment, all the equipment that belonged to the Ukrainian army at the beginning of the conflict has long been destroyed and they are fighting with weapons constantly provided to them by NATO countries. By this their number, as well as losses are already difficult even to measure!!!!
The Ukrainian front is over 2,000 kilometers long!!!
Since September 06, 2022, there have been very intense events on the fronts.
Zelensky, his Western curators, were constantly pushing for more decisive action to continue to help him. Until September 06, the Ukrainian army was only defensive, but since September 06, they have been launching a series of counterattacks in different parts of the front. To do this they used their main, select and last reserve, which had been forming all along in Western Ukraine. On the Kherson direction they suffered a crushing defeat. Several attacks to seize the Zaporizhzhia NPP, were unsuccessful. With the help of U.S. intelligence they managed to find a weak spot in the deployment of Russian troops in the Kharkov region. Yes, they were able to capture several settlements in Kharkov Oblast: Balakleya, Izyum, Kupyansk. But at what cost? Their losses during these days, in different parts of the front, number in the thousands. (according to various estimates 12000-15000 killed and wounded)!
They reported an imaginary "victory" and were supported by all the Western media, and at the same time in the Transcarpathian regions of Ukraine, a three-day mourning period was declared, for colossal losses. To attack is not to defend! And the Ukrainian army is dragging itself into a trap.
The Belgorod region of Russia, received tens of thousands of refugees from these territories when the Ukrainian army attacked. And those who did not want to leave, hoping they would be safe, were sadly mistaken. Now the Ukrainian Nazis have started terrorizing these cities.
In fact, Zelensky and his junta and Western allies have achieved only that Russia has decided to reconsider the intensity and level of its actions in Ukraine. People in Russia have become even more aggressive in demanding harsher actions from the Russian leadership. Everybody is fed up with Russia fighting at 15-20% of its capacity and being too sparing in Ukraine.
In Ukraine, Russia has begun striking critical infrastructure and using strategic aviation. In recent days, several power plants have been hit. If this continues, U.S. satellites could fall, NATO facilities could be hit, and the military conflict would rise to a new international level.
But most importantly, this coming winter!!!
Let's see how this winter, Europe, USA and Ukraine survive. Let's see how Zelensky will receive Western delegations in pitch darkness.
This conflict will have more of an economic effect, not even a military one!
Also i have no idea where you get your number from, other than the deepest depths of your ass.
I didn't know lambing season had gone so successful last year, and in the West we had produced so much sheep
NATO are pissing their pants at the thought of fighting the Russian military.
Ukraine's own defense minister says 138000 Russians are fighting in the Russian-made country of Ukraine. I can give a link if you want? 4 waves of mobilisation and ever increasingly tough rules on leaving the country and having to join the military, especially for women - are not the sign of an army that is successful. Russia has beaten the crap out of them in the last few days in Kherson and Zaporizhia
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You can't, stupidly, say "Russian propaganda" every time you don't like something. I know it works for the US Secretary of State, or the German Chancellor, but unfortunately this unfairness is just life.
Try to DEBATE your position.
4 million Ukrainians in Russia since the war - go on, explain that
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Go explain why Russia said there was no forces on the border, no invasion coming, No war.
While we in the west knew there was forces on the border, there was an invasion and there is a war.
And you blinded by Russian propaganda talks about sheep in the west
You have so far called everyone not agreeing with you stupid. Go on genius and talk more about how the russian army is doing great
While we in the west knew there was forces on the border, there was an invasion and there is a war.
And you blinded by Russian propaganda talks about sheep in the west
You have so far called everyone not agreeing with you stupid. Go on genius and talk more about how the russian army is doing great
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Because you've been instigating this fucking conflict for decades!El Major wrote: ↑Wed Sep 14, 2022 7:43 pmGo explain why Russia said there was no forces on the border, no invasion coming, No war.
While we in the west knew there was forces on the border, there was an invasion and there is a war.
And you blinded by Russian propaganda talks about sheep in the west
You have so far called everyone not agreeing with you stupid. Go on genius and talk more about how the russian army is doing great
You don't need to be an oracle to predict Russia's reaction to the genocide of Russians on Russian ancestral territories!
Believe me, Biden and your Brussels jackals aren't visionaries at all, they just knew how Russia would react to all this, because they are the main cause of it all! And it doesn't take much intelligence to do that!
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Thats your opinion
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There is no war, its a special military operation using very little of Russia's army and air force, with primary objectives of denazification, demilitirisation and stopping genocide in the Donbass. Land or resources has nothing to do with why the operation was started.El Major wrote: ↑Wed Sep 14, 2022 7:43 pmGo explain why Russia said there was no forces on the border, no invasion coming, No war.
While we in the west knew there was forces on the border, there was an invasion and there is a war.
And you blinded by Russian propaganda talks about sheep in the west
You have so far called everyone not agreeing with you stupid. Go on genius and talk more about how the russian army is doing great
Why should Russia tell the enemy when they are starting the operation? Anyway it was the Ukraine LYING. Lying about building up 150000 forces in Donbass to start genocide. The war started on February 12th,when the Nazis with their massive build up of forces started increased their shelling of Donbass by fifty times more than average.
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Sorry but you look what's going on in Ukrain, there's tank, rocket laucher, machine gun shot, rifle shot, bomb falling from sky, innocant killed, opposide group of soldiers who shot eachother, "military opération" or war It's the same thing, yes you'll tell me that Russia could have nuke the Ukrain in 1hour if they realy wanted, but i disagree, others country will not have accepted this so brutaly, stop beleving that they could do all what they want because it's not true, i've read on this forum 4 months ago that Poutine could shut down the internet worldwide if he wanted, i'm still waiting to see this, yes Russia is a powerful country, but a lot of company and state don't want to do business with them anymore, tourist i don't even talk about it, who want to visit Muscou in 2022, who will réserve a tour in russia from travel agency ? So yes Russia is strong and big, but isolated socialy from EU, but yes, they still have China and Turkya and the table , but chinese will not be easy deal with...
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