The fact that you can take one statement from one european politician and write what you did to Jean as a conlusion and call it facts and truth are funny . I will give you that. Europe and the european pepole are going to hell accoriding to you . You can write lie after lie about Europe but god forbid someone pokes you back a little.

El Major wrote: ↑

Thu Sep 15, 2022 8:11 am

The fact that you can take one statement from one european politician and write what you did to Jean as a conlusion and call it facts and truth are funny . I will give you that. Europe and the european pepole are going to hell accoriding to you . You can write lie after lie about Europe but god forbid someone pokes you back a little.

Exactly, the fact that you can't say anything in favor of your opinion or refute what I said. That's the one that's clearly evident here!
My example about the remarks of the President of the European Commission is just one example among many, it was just three days ago. There are a huge number of such examples, and I could list them all. Just listen to how your leaders, to your citizens, explain the problems in your country. This kind of nonsense poured into the ears of the citizens demeans the citizens themselves. And you have nothing to say in your own favor but unsubstantiated claims.

Once again its not the statement but your werid conlusions to Jean and all other Europeans in general based off that statement .

I have no interest going back and forth with you about Euope and Russia. If you actually think thats because you have great arguments that cant be debated thats fine.

I dont have anything against Russia and russians in general either. I have been to Russia but will probably not going there in the near future. I have a problem with the leadership and especially when they invade other countries.

It's actually very funny to see Russians here who Pardon Putin's and atrocities
You might as well eat and tell me that it is very tasty I'm aure everyone gonna believe it guys.

JDR wrote: ↑

Thu Sep 15, 2022 12:24 am

OF COURSE ITS FAKE NEWS AND LIES!! What is fking wrong with you?
All "parents" and "witnesses" are actors to dupe the sheep. The SBU is in FULL control of the western Nazi press- where they film, what they film and who they speak to. You will even seen these "journalists" using identical words and propaganda framing.

You forgot the médical reports from legist, scars on body victims, ect, ID that has been found near bodys and who proove that many victim are simple Ukrain civils, not military Ukrain forces, but of course, you'll explain that it's fake body and all fake paper putted here by NATO, from the sky...

just a number: Since the beginning of the war, 10,516 air alarms have been recorded on the territory of Ukraine, which means the threat of a missile, artillery or air strike. Many people in dangerous regions sat in bomb shelters and basements for months. Victims among the civilian population are even difficult to imagine, because a large number of people are considered missing, and the fate of people who remain in the occupied territories is also unknown. It is difficult for me to find an excuse for a person who supports or justifies such a thing

pierro wrote: ↑

Thu Sep 15, 2022 1:59 pm

just a number: Since the beginning of the war, 10,516 air alarms have been recorded on the territory of Ukraine, which means the threat of a missile, artillery or air strike. Many people in dangerous regions sat in bomb shelters and basements for months. Victims among the civilian population are even difficult to imagine, because a large number of people are considered missing, and the fate of people who remain in the occupied territories is also unknown. It is difficult for me to find an excuse for a person who supports or justifies such a thing

I know this is a porno website, but it still doesn't change the fact your brain is supposed to be between your ears, and not in your dick, which sadly appears to be the case for your comment here Pierro.

The courageous people of the Donbass have had to put up with these same threats and sirens for EIGHT YEARS. So please don't talk garbage. Don't fake concern for some civilians (who are safe from courageous Russian military) but conveniently forget about others who have been victim of this evil and corrupt Kiev Nazi regime for EIGHT YEARS.

It is difficult for me to find an excuse for a person who supports or justifies such a thing.

Russia does not strike civilian targets, so people are perfectly safe until their Kiev genocidal regime and army place military equipment there.The same regime also committed several false flags and has incidents of several anti-aircraft systems that have suffer mislaunch trying to intercept Russian missiles justifiably targeting military sites, with the mislaunched Anti-aircraft missile hitting and destroying residential buildings and killing many, that the lying Nazi regime then propagates to its sheep as "Russia killing innocent civilians deliberately".

Those bomb shelters are perfect by the way - built by the Russians/Soviets.

Victims among the civilians are caused by, and sole responsibility of the Kiev Nazi regime.
The "secrecy" of what happens to those on "occupied" territories is only because Western presstitute broadcasting decided to ban Russian media reporting into the west at the start of the war.

Nobody knows how many live in corrupt Ukraine because the census not done for 21 years, so it's easy for the regime to make dishonest claims about missing people, primarily because they are jealous scum of how FOUR MILLION UKRAINIANS decided to move to Russia since the start of the war.

Jean wrote: ↑

Thu Sep 15, 2022 1:21 pm

You forgot the médical reports from legist, scars on body victims, ect, ID that has been found near bodys and who proove that many victim are simple Ukrain civils, not military Ukrain forces, but of course, you'll explain that it's fake body and all fake paper putted here by NATO, from the sky...

As for the provocation in Bucha, no forensic medical examinations of people's bodies were carried out at Russia's request, with the participation of international independent experts. Do you know why? Because if it had been conducted, it would have been immediately clear who really killed those people.

Next, you're talking about murdered Ukrainian ordinary citizens. Do you think Ukrainian Nazis don't kill their own citizens?
Zelensky, on September 14, 2022, visited Izyum, which was taken by the Ukrainian army to check in with his Western handlers for his supposed "success." You won't see the enthusiastic Ukrainian residents of the city greeting their "liberators" next to him. Do you know why? Because most of the citizens of the city fled to Russia from their "liberators", and the remaining small part is being filtered by the SBU. I did not misspell "filtration," the Ukrainian authorities themselves said so! More than half of them will simply be shot and show you, your Western media, a new Bucha! Zelensky is afraid of his own people, in the supposedly "liberated" territories of Ukraine. Even in front of the formation of his own soldiers, he is guarded by SBU officers and Western mercenaries. And do you know why? Because he is hated by the citizens of his country, in the east so unequivocally!
https://youtu.be/pggxsyBi394

Here is Jean, your compatriot's telegram channel. I advise you to subscribe to it, you will learn much more truth...

https://t.me/donbasspacifique

pierro wrote: ↑

Thu Sep 15, 2022 1:59 pm

just a number: Since the beginning of the war, 10,516 air alarms have been recorded on the territory of Ukraine, which means the threat of a missile, artillery or air strike. Many people in dangerous regions sat in bomb shelters and basements for months. Victims among the civilian population are even difficult to imagine, because a large number of people are considered missing, and the fate of people who remain in the occupied territories is also unknown. It is difficult for me to find an excuse for a person who supports or justifies such a thing

Just logic!
Various international delegations go to Kiev, to see Zelensky almost every other day, and they do not meet in bunkers, like at the time of the special operation. Do you think it was possible when, as you described, all the other citizens would be sitting in basements? Think hard...

Here's Secretary of State Blinken's September 09, 2022 visit to Kiev. I don't see them sitting in basements...
https://youtu.be/0bvQbdZxwcQ

Maybe somewhere in eastern Ukraine people are sitting in basements, in Dombassia for example, but definitely not in Kiev and not in Western Ukraine!

Same bullshits all the time "8 years terror of donbass", "nazis", "bird biolaboratories". Nothing new from brainless propaganda. Hope you paid well for your BIG LIE

El Major wrote: ↑

Thu Sep 15, 2022 12:31 am

MVitaly5 wrote: ↑

Wed Sep 14, 2022 11:16 pm

Jean wrote: ↑

Wed Sep 14, 2022 10:14 pm

So all the press of the world is lying, abdolutly all channels of the world do fake news and tell lies since 6 months, CNN, Fox news, LCI, ect, all what they show is not whats going on in Ukrain, sorry but it's a bit hard to swallow, gives names of the people that you spoke with, you know the journalist have the honor to put their name into their speech, here you talk people you talk with, hidden into Whatsapp and who explain you reality is X and not Y, it's difficult to swallow everything and also ignore testament of Ukrain parents who say that their children have been victim of this war on TV, you can't cheat the desper in those eyes, that's why i go émotive into this !

Understand, Jean, that the question of belief or disbelief, is in religion!



Here's Ursula von der Leyen yesterday, people asked her what they should do about their utility bill receipts. He sharply replied that: "Send them to Russia, to Putin!"
Do you realize, Jean, that by doing so she showed how much she despises her citizens. She despises you!!! She spits in your face, rubbing absolute nonsense in your face, thus making you look like fools. Do you like that? Or do you think she's right?
If you don't want to be lied to and manipulated, you must first learn to respect yourself.

First of all great post Jean.

Second. The nerve to lecture about debating and everytime someone has a diferent opinion than you and claim Russia is not perfect you post this . How about you looking in the mirror sometime? Why do you accept Putin spitting in your face time and time again. Killing political opponents , allowing no critical media , enriching himself and his friends billions while sending out poor russian soldiers for little pay, poorly equipped as cannon fodder in Ukraine for no reason. Families not even knowing what happend to their loved ones because god forbid we should say this is a war. How can you allow yourself this. You have to learn to respect yourself so you can stand up to tyrants.

Putin never kills political opponents sheep. LEARN the issues you are talking about before you start writing crap.
Who were killed? Estemirova and Politkovskaya a long time ago and Nemtsov in 2015. I don't want to get into the absurd fake "poisoning" of that waster Navalny.

Estemirova and the pig Politkovskaya were both female journalists who covered the Chechen wars extensively. Nemtsov used to be an important politician of the Yeltsin era. Their murderers were Chechens, though doubts about who ordered the kill.

Can you imagine if Algeria was a country landlocked inside France, and the war of separation or Independence from France happened not over 60 years ago, but now? Do you think French journalists would be allowed to report in support of the Algerian side? Do you think people wouldn't
be violently furious if in response to some Algerian bombing of a police station in Paris or hostage taking then killing in Nice, a journalist decided to report from some poor Algerians home, saying how wonderful their cause is and how France is the aggressor? Or the same for a Algerian journalist in Algeria calling to be still unified with France? Or US fake news media reporting for the pro-Saddam side during either of the Iraq wars?

Well, this is exactly what Russia had with Estemirova and Politkovskaya who were in support of Chechen rebels in their journalism, the same rebels killing Russian soldiers and killing civilians in terrorist acts.

Nemtsov said something in support of Charlie Hebdo, and that probably got him killed. I would like to remind you of the tragedy of a Teacher in France, not intending to harm but perhaps with misguided logic, depicted an image of the Prophet in class? He was beheaded, by a Chechen diaspora born in Moscow.

So THINK before you write. Russia has an insanely free media that wrote stuff on Chechen, Ukrainian and Gruzian wars that the NATO media would never get close to in terms of dissent from official government policy.

Critical voices are on state media and radio EVERY fking day. You don't speak or read Russian so STFU please!

How can he be "stealing for his friends" if Russian income tax is one of the lowest - and the oil, gas and other natural resource companies are by far the most taxed and biggest contributors to the Federal Budget?

Ukraine is about as real a country as Disneyland