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TON618 wrote:
Wed May 01, 2024 9:11 pm
What the fuck is that shit?
Here's the fact for you.
You say "No one can find anyone guilty until the court decides, and only the court can convict."
The guy has been TO JAIL for abusing women and RAPING CHILDREN. What part of that do you not understand????
He has been CONVICTED ALREADY SEVERAL TIMES How many times does he have to be found GUILTY before you and Pierre Woodman realize that he is a ABUSER and a CHILD RAPIST????

What else don't you understand about me personally? Do you want me to tell you ten more times?
MVitaly5 wrote:
Wed May 01, 2024 8:20 pm
I don't know the person in question and I don't know what he did! I was talking about these situations in general and any particular situation needs to be looked at individually.
I don't condone pedophiles and rapists!
And if this person you are talking about really did what you are talking about and was convicted of it, then his repeated criminal actions require individualized proceedings, taking into account his past "sins"!
I DON'T KNOW this particular person, and I don't presume to discuss him, much less judge him! But, I know that many were, at least morally condemned and destroyed reputationally, because everyone on the outside could not wait to stick their nose where they can not know the truth and be objective for objective reasons, or just wanted to lie in self-interest!
If you are not able to understand what I am talking about in my comments, because your emotions have drowned out your reason, then that is your problem.

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TON618 wrote:
Wed May 01, 2024 7:31 pm
I'm going to give you a "philosophical" thought speaking as the father of two teenage daughters.

I thought this forum was a place to discuss porn, but I instead found a place where people are disrespectful of other members and now I find out that the owner (someone I up-to-now thought I respected) sympathises with diddlers ffs!!
There is no third person or remaining "neutral" in situations when you find out that your best friend abuses women and rapes children. You ditch them, fast, no questions.
I've spent some time today reading back about your relationship with this Belgian monster who incidentally has been to jail several times for raping children, so don't try to claim you didn't know about him, don't believe the stories or convictions etc.
That makes you in my book as sick as him and I'm amazed that nobody has told you that. Kids that are 15 years old are CHILDREN in any country, hell most of them are still kids at 21! Yet YOU condone the abuse of them by claiming to be a good supportive friend of one of these animals.

There is no excuse here, you've clearly stated what type of man you are by trying to cover for your "friend" who's now in JAIL AGAIN for abusing women and raping children. I hope the FBI look into this because I get the feeling this goes deeper.

Outta here.
Since you made an account here, you obviously have jerked off to a few 18-year-old girls here, just 3 years older than the "child" in your example. Get a grip.

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mspm89 wrote:
Wed May 01, 2024 9:37 pm
TON618 wrote:
Wed May 01, 2024 7:31 pm
I'm going to give you a "philosophical" thought speaking as the father of two teenage daughters.

I thought this forum was a place to discuss porn, but I instead found a place where people are disrespectful of other members and now I find out that the owner (someone I up-to-now thought I respected) sympathises with diddlers ffs!!
There is no third person or remaining "neutral" in situations when you find out that your best friend abuses women and rapes children. You ditch them, fast, no questions.
I've spent some time today reading back about your relationship with this Belgian monster who incidentally has been to jail several times for raping children, so don't try to claim you didn't know about him, don't believe the stories or convictions etc.
That makes you in my book as sick as him and I'm amazed that nobody has told you that. Kids that are 15 years old are CHILDREN in any country, hell most of them are still kids at 21! Yet YOU condone the abuse of them by claiming to be a good supportive friend of one of these animals.

There is no excuse here, you've clearly stated what type of man you are by trying to cover for your "friend" who's now in JAIL AGAIN for abusing women and raping children. I hope the FBI look into this because I get the feeling this goes deeper.

Outta here.
Since you made an account here, you obviously have jerked off to a few 18-year-old girls here, just 3 years older than the "child" in your example. Get a grip.
Well, in his opinion, his personal morality and his mental attitude to it all comes first here, not the law in a particular society. And this is an eternal problem of any society - the opposition between morality and legal legality.

It is a very debatable question at what age a person is ready physically, morally and psychologically, consciously, to have sexual intercourse. And there is no definite opinion on this issue. Therefore, there is a law that regulates these issues in a particular society, which falls under the jurisdiction of this law.

As for my personal, moral and mental attitude to this, I believe that 15 years of age is still a bit early for sexual life, especially among non-peers, because each party may have different motivation and awareness of the process. Relationships in the style of "Lolita" Nabokov, I do not welcome in principle. For example, in Russia, according to the law, criminal responsibility comes when an adult enters into a sexual relationship with a person, knowingly for an adult, under the age of 16 years. It is knowingly, when the age of the minor is known to the other participant.

Our ancestors gave their daughters in marriage at the age of 14-15, or even earlier. Well, then it was a marriage as a transaction, and that was the main motive, not sexual.

The conditions and framework prescribed in the law, it reflects the demand of the society, that's where the main problem lies!
If tomorrow this society adopts a law justifying pedophilia, then these problems and contradictions in society will have a global scale. And, given the current trends in Western society, this is an absolutely real prospect.

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MVitaly5 wrote:
Thu May 02, 2024 12:45 am

Well, in his opinion, his personal morality and his mental attitude to it all comes first here, not the law in a particular society. And this is an eternal problem of any society - the opposition between morality and legal legality.

It is a very debatable question at what age a person is ready physically, morally and psychologically, consciously, to have sexual intercourse. And there is no definite opinion on this issue. Therefore, there is a law that regulates these issues in a particular society, which falls under the jurisdiction of this law.

As for my personal, moral and mental attitude to this, I believe that 15 years of age is still a bit early for sexual life, especially among non-peers, because each party may have different motivation and awareness of the process. Relationships in the style of "Lolita" Nabokov, I do not welcome in principle. For example, in Russia, according to the law, criminal responsibility comes when an adult enters into a sexual relationship with a person, knowingly for an adult, under the age of 16 years. It is knowingly, when the age of the minor is known to the other participant.

Our ancestors gave their daughters in marriage at the age of 14-15, or even earlier. Well, then it was a marriage as a transaction, and that was the main motive, not sexual.

The conditions and framework prescribed in the law, it reflects the demand of the society, that's where the main problem lies!
If tomorrow this society adopts a law justifying pedophilia, then these problems and contradictions in society will have a global scale. And, given the current trends in Western society, this is an absolutely real prospect.
What you just posted is a longer version of what I've always said about this issue: there necessarily has to be a cut-off age by law, some age. But to equate pedos who diddle 5-year-olds (yuck) with guys who, sometimes unknowingly, bang a nearly fully developed 15 yo girl is silly. In some cases, it's only statutory rape because, well, THE CUT-OFF AGE HAS TO BE SOMEWHERE and there was actually consent involved with the girl of 15.

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Thu May 02, 2024 1:53 am
What you just posted is a longer version of what I've always said about this issue: there necessarily has to be a cut-off age by law, some age. But to equate pedos who diddle 5-year-olds (yuck) with guys who, sometimes unknowingly, bang a nearly fully developed 15 yo girl is silly. In some cases, it's only statutory rape because, well, THE CUT-OFF AGE HAS TO BE SOMEWHERE and there was actually consent involved.
No, "Pedophilia" is fundamentally different!!!
To begin with, "Pedophilia", is recognized as a mental illness. And often under this term is wrongly implied, in relation to sexual attraction not only to children of pre-pubertal and early-pubertal age, but in general to persons who have not reached adulthood.

For example, with a 15-year-old girl, it is incorrect to use the word "Pedophilia".
In the situation with a 15-year-old girl, there is a clash of contradictions in society as a whole, as well as contradictions between morality, mental attitude and the law, which regulates age limits and restrictions.

In the ideal idea, the current law, should reflect the just request of the majority of people of society, and be the priority solution, for all disputes, at least legal, a kind of "Court of Arbitration", BUT;
1). This is not always the case, and this is the modern problem of a society ruled by various societal minorities, including, by the way, a real society of perverts lobbying for and justifying pedophilism.
2). The enforcement of the law, often criticized, and sometimes even absurd and illegal.
3). Often excessive freedom, paradoxically, unhinges people, especially those unprepared for the symbiosis of freedom, discipline, responsibility and respect for the freedom of others. As a result, people often prioritize their personal freedoms over any law.

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I don't condone pedophiles and rapists!
And if this person you are talking about really did what you are talking about and was convicted of it, then his repeated criminal actions require individualized proceedings, taking into account his past "sins"!
I DON'T KNOW this particular person, and I don't presume to discuss him, much less judge him! But, I know that many were, at least morally condemned and destroyed reputationally, because everyone on the outside could not wait to stick their nose where they can not know the truth and be objective for objective reasons, or just wanted to lie in self-interest!
If you are not able to understand what I am talking about in my comments, because your emotions have drowned out your reason, then that is your problem.
Since you made an account here, you obviously have jerked off to a few 18-year-old girls here, just 3 years older than the "child" in your example. Get a grip.
What you just posted is a longer version of what I've always said about this issue: there necessarily has to be a cut-off age by law, some age. But to equate pedos who diddle 5-year-olds (yuck) with guys who, sometimes unknowingly, bang a nearly fully developed 15 yo girl is silly. In some cases, it's only statutory rape because, well, THE CUT-OFF AGE HAS TO BE SOMEWHERE and there was actually consent involved with the girl of 15.

Exactly !!!
For example, with a 15-year-old girl, it is incorrect to use the word "Pedophilia".
In the situation with a 15-year-old girl, there is a clash of contradictions in society as a whole, as well as contradictions between morality, mental attitude and the law, which regulates age limits and restrictions.

In the ideal idea, the current law, should reflect the just request of the majority of people of society, and be the priority solution, for all disputes, at least legal, a kind of "Court of Arbitration", BUT;
1). This is not always the case, and this is the modern problem of a society ruled by various societal minorities, including, by the way, a real society of perverts lobbying for and justifying pedophilism.
2). The enforcement of the law, often criticized, and sometimes even absurd and illegal.
3). Often excessive freedom, paradoxically, unhinges people, especially those unprepared for the symbiosis of freedom, discipline, responsibility and respect for the freedom of others. As a result, people often prioritize their personal freedoms over any law.
In matters of sexuality, Belgian legislation distinguishes between 3 age groups: before 14 years, between 14 and 16 years and after 16 years.
Currently, the age of sexual majority is set at 16 years. In other words, from the age of 16, a minor can legally have sexual relations (straight or gay) and is presumed to consent. He can therefore have sexual relations with another adolescent aged 16 or over or with an adult.
Remember, however, that in the event of sexual relations between a minor aged 16 to 18 and an adult who is a member of his family (ascendant, brother and sister, etc.) or who has authority over him (teacher, sports coach, priest, etc.), this adult still commits an offense (presumption of abuse of authority). The minor also does not have the right to prostitute himself.
The girl Dennis had a consensual relation with and brought to him by her mom was 15 years and 10 months. If belgian law was like in like France and most other countries in Europe making sexual majority at 15 years old Dennis will never got a problem !!!
In USA it's 18 and some countries even 21 but we are here speaking about an european situation making Dennis guilty for an action not condemnable in most other european countries but in any case we are far from a crime of pedophilia...
just as today (with all the reservation that I am wrong but this is what sources that I think are reliable have confirmed to me) the police would have seized screenshots of videos from Tubes like Pornhub Xvideo and Xhamster by entering:
"We are unable to say whether the young women in these videos are adults. It is easily assumed that they could be between 15 and 18 years old."
so this means that if someone takes a screenshot of Brenda Santos who will soon be 27 years old but appears to be 14 in certain images, risks prison because the police will not be able to tell if she is adult ???
but damn, where is justice??? It is all the more hypocritical since, for example, Hamid Karzai, former president of Afghanistan, controlled a country where you can marry an 8-year-old child and have sex from the first menstruation (as if they are waiting of course) but this guy who was in a way the president of pedophiles was received with open arms by all the presidents of the world. Have you seen or heard a journalist talk about this??? NO !!!
Thanks to Rula Ghani ex first lady in Afghanistan who tried stop it in 2017 !!!
And it is the same for all the presidents of these countries below who practice various genital mutilations on children but go to dinner with Western presidents who give them a hug at the arrival and departure without never say a single word about it to them !!!

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In the United States, over the last 20 years, 300,000 children have been married, mainly girls as young as ten years old. Although little known to Americans, these unions are completely legal in 43 of the country's 50 states. And in nine of them, they are done without any age limit.
But when a guy arrive in an USA airport with a DVD of Lupe Fuentes he got arrested for pedophilia and without Lupe herself coming to show her passport to the court the man will have stayed many years in jail !!!

For french language speakers :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9FrTKH_O_DE

Honestly this planet is rotten...

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PIERRE WOODMAN wrote:
Thu May 02, 2024 10:34 am
In USA it's 18 and some countries even 21 but we are here speaking about an european situation making Dennis guilty for an action not condemnable in most other european countries but in any case we are far from a crime of pedophilia...
just as today (with all the reservation that I am wrong but this is what sources that I think are reliable have confirmed to me) the police would have seized screenshots of videos from Tubes like Pornhub Xvideo and Xhamster by entering:
"We are unable to say whether the young women in these videos are adults. It is easily assumed that they could be between 15 and 18 years old."
so this means that if someone takes a screenshot of Brenda Santos who will soon be 27 years old but appears to be 14 in certain images, risks prison because the police will not be able to tell if she is adult ???

PW
It's hard for me to guess how it would work in some European countries, frankly speaking, seeing today's absurd and insane trends, I wouldn't be surprised by anything anymore.
But, I can tell you how it works in Russia.
Let's start with the fact that in Russia at the moment officially prohibited by law, the production and distribution of pornographic products. Not viewing and use for personal purposes, but the production and public distribution. However, in practice, I do not think that law enforcement agencies take this very seriously, unless of course pornographic products do not have a blatant perverted nature, such as pedophilia, and so on. I even know some small studios that produce pornographic videos by order of Western studios, and distribute their products in the West. But the internet is everywhere! But the law is the law, and porn moguls are unlikely to be able to roll out their production on a real large scale in Russia.

Further, with regard to the law in the area of sexual relations.
I have already mentioned here that in Russia, criminal liability is incurred for acts of a sexual nature with a person under the age of 16. Naturally, violence or coercion is a completely different article and much more severe liability.
The main thing I want to say here!
For general understanding. In order for there to be a corpus delicti and a potential criminal to be convicted and punished, his guilt must be proven, namely;
1). That he KNEW (in advance) that he was having sexual intercourse with a person under the age of 16, regardless of the consent of the parties. That is, if a man has sexual intercourse, by mutual consent with a 15-year-old girl, and it will be proved that he did not know that she is under 16 years of age, he will avoid criminal liability.
2). Or, when the second indication occurs, that the person's age is OBVIOUS and does not need to be proven. This usually works, just against pedophiles, when the latter have a sexual relationship, or make other actions of a sexual nature with an obvious child!

These concepts of "Knowingly knew" and "Age obvious" are the key concepts for proving guilt. If there is not at least one of these components, there is no crime. This is all proved by investigative means, or a person is not brought to criminal responsibility.

Why I explained it in such detail.
And because if someone uses a screenshot from a porn site, as you say, (frankly not of pedophilic nature, when a child is frankly photographed on the image), it is impossible to prove guilt in any crime, on these signs, because they are not evidence of guilt!!! In any case, this is how legal practice works in Russia, but as for some Western countries, I'm not sure about that....

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1). That he KNEW (in advance) that he was having sexual intercourse with a person under the age of 16,
Wel he always said he did not and the girl was looking older !!!

And because if someone uses a screenshot from a porn site, as you say, (frankly not of pedophilic nature, when a child is frankly photographed on the image), it is impossible to prove guilt in any crime, on these signs, because they are not evidence of guilt!!! In any case, this is how legal practice works in Russia, but as for some Western countries, I'm not sure about that....
Well it's normally to the justice to prove someone is guilty and bring evidence of it but nowadays not anymore ...
It's silly !!!

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PIERRE WOODMAN wrote:
Thu May 02, 2024 12:55 pm
1). That he KNEW (in advance) that he was having sexual intercourse with a person under the age of 16,
Wel he always said he did not and the girl was looking older !!!


PW
I see, everything is possible in this life.
Well, Pierre, you realize that an adult is an adult who must understand and realize all the aspects and consequences of his actions.
It's silly to demand all that from a teenager, but an adult is obliged to be guided by common sense, not by his passions and lusts.
Besides, there is a fundamental legal paradigm: "Ignorance of the law does not exempt from responsibility!"
You say that he didn't know how old the girl really was, but in fact, he should have known about it, just for his own self-preservation. So he didn't think about it, or he didn't want to find out.

I will tell a story about my nephew (45 years old).
He was lecturing at school for a certain period of time. And a 15 year old high school girl had a crush on him who actually started stalking him. The girl was cute, and he was single at the time. It would seem that what else is needed, especially since he knew that many girls in the class, already dating their peers or older students, and even practicing sexual relations.
He naturally ignored all the signs of the girl's attention for a long time, but when she had already waited for certain conditions and actually offered herself, he replied: "You are a very beautiful girl, but you realize that because of you, I will be given more time in prison than you are years old!". And that was the end of it. This girl, realizing she was being ignored, quickly switched to her peers. It was all just a crush, typical of teenagers - the girl fell in love with a smart teacher.
But my nephew, stood the test, realizing what the consequences could be if this affair with a 15-year-old girl was disclosed.

Sometimes adults look for excuses to hide the real motives of their passions and vices. It happens that they really do not know all the nuances of the current legislation, commit rash acts, but it will always be the problems of only this person, and no one else.

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What you say is right but humans are humans with their good and bad parts !!!
Obviously there are no any excuses for what Dennis did if he knew this girl was underage of two months in regard of the belgian law but whatever is the truth about this case he did his jail time for it and has paid his debt to the society IMO !!!
About the new case with the 8 girls if it's confirmed in appeal I will have to simply accept the idea I did not really know him as the person I think he is and admit I was wrong to trust what he said !!!
I just expect the second court will not only use word but real evidence before send a man in jail for many years ...

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