https://www.nytimes.com/live/2024/04/25 ... ion-appeal

PIERRE WOODMAN wrote: ↑

Wed May 01, 2024 9:27 pm

I feel Ton618 is playing a strange game here ...
I went back to your 20 post here and yes obviously you are not a regular fan and you wanted people to hear you here !!!
Fine you did and say what you wanted too.

I'm not playing a "game" with you Pierre, I'm very serious about your skewed view of the world. I do not share your view that this Dennis Burkas animal is an innocent man, and I don't care if anyone here hears or agrees with me, I'm telling you that you and anyone else who shares your view about him are wrong. Simple as that.
The utter rubbish both you and MVItaly5 have written above does not change anything about this sick slime, nor explain anything about YOUR sympathy towards him. You can write as much as you like, try to cloud the truth and talk as much as you want about the age of consent in Angola or Timbuktu but the fact remains your friend Burkas is a violent paedophile.
I'll leave again the news reports below about what has happened to this misunderstood friend of yours.

PIERRE WOODMAN wrote: ↑

Wed May 01, 2024 9:27 pm

About the new case with the 8 girls if it's confirmed in appeal I will have to simply accept the idea I did not really know him as the person I think he is and admit I was wrong to trust what he said !!!

He's already been CONVICTED, no amount of appeals will make the disgusting images that were FOUND on his computer or shared with other vile individuals disappear.
You have children yourself you say? And you are not sickened by this finding? He was found with IMAGES OF CHILDERN BEING ABUSED. That would strike sickness and deep hatred in most humans. . . . . But apparently not yourself, MVItaly5,or mspm89. All we read are excuses, philosophical discussion and sarcasm.
What the hell is going though your heads??????
As a well-known producer, I'm sure you must attend many of the high-profile award ceremonies worldwide. Keep showing people that you defend animals like Burkas and I'll bet you don't participate in many more!

PIERRE WOODMAN wrote: ↑

Wed May 01, 2024 9:27 pm

You should appreciate the freedom you have to express your opinion and get an answer from me

Who do you think you are? I don't need you to tell me how grateful or appreciative I should be. If anything you should be grateful that I pointed out how wrong you are being friends with such a disgusting animal.
And your veiled threats do not intimidate me, I am not a child. If you would like to delete my account please feel free, (I would be grateful for that actually!) It's your play-pen after all, but you've already shown who you are, and that isn't ever going to go away.
Fo'rum
: "a public meeting place for open discussion"
Maybe you should rename your "forum" to "The Woodman Autocracy," judging by some of your replies to guys here that would be a more fitting title I think.

PIERRE WOODMAN wrote: ↑

Wed May 01, 2024 9:27 pm

I do not sympathise more with X or Y person until they have made a huge quantity of post and I know who they are !!!

After being a lurker on and off for years, I know now that I neither want nor care about your "sympathy" and I will most certainly not be making a huge number of posts, this place is not my scene at all.
As for knowing me, I only get to know people I respect, and I'm afraid you fall very, very short of that privilege.

The nerve of this guy.

Please let us know about your daughter in 3 years' time. Maybe then we'll care about you.

It's hard to talk to a Zombie who is in his own otherworldly, emotional reality!!!

You talk to him about other things, and he picks on me personally, and demands from me to condemn a man I don't know, and I don't know all the details of his trial.
These are the kind of fanatics who sometimes make me look at who we are talking about.
There is very little information on the Internet from more or less serious sources, and all of it is muddy and inconsistent.
As a result, confirming my initial conclusion, without sufficient grounds, without studying court records, on what grounds and evidence, court decisions were made, it makes no sense to make any arbitration conclusions and makes judgments.
One thing I can say is that if this man really did all the things that are written about him, I hope that a fair court will deal with it.





And seriously...
TON618 also, for you personally. You can print out these screenshots of yours, take them to the toilet, and wipe your ass after you take a shit!!!
This is not news from serious sources worthy of serious discussion and consideration.
When you have at your disposal, real documents of court proceedings, and not this author's crap, then come, we'll discuss it seriously!

TON618.
this man was also convicted three years ago and is in jail because apparently some woman who accused him 10 years later still has "his semen on her forehead".
Here's the news today!
https://www.nytimes.com/live/2024/04/25 ... ion-appeal

I wonder if Ton618 is not Blueshit from PB forum has this one published exactly the same screen shot there ...

Anyway you and him in case it's not you are the same category of person ignoring the base of the logic.
Whatever a friend of mine could have made bad, even if I do not like the idea it could be true, has nothing to do with me.

I don't try excuse anyone doing rape, or molesting kids etc ... I just try express that IMO I will prefer more evidences to be sure I can stop trust any of Dennis words because for now in this trial there are nothing else than voice against voice !!!
As I said already, the fact Nanoe Vassen send me the picture saying she was happy to suck him, and later fight with Dennis about 20 000 euros she never got she said and then went to police accusing Dennis of rape give me a strange feeling particulary because the famous rape day she send me this ...


But I can be wrong of course ...

PW

La façon d'écrire de TON618 ne colle pas vraiment avec celle de Blueshadow, mais sinon je crois que c'est bon les gars, à 3 sur lui, je crois que il a compris

Nanoe à des ongles dégueulasse, sucé ou pas, c'est la douche froide ça

In french and english because I want everyone get it !!!

Le Britshit s'en donne à coeur joie en disant que je défend les violeurs et les pédophiles sauf que NON !!!


il va même jusqu'à prétendre que Dennis m'a envoyé des enfants ce qui incroyable sachant qu'il a pu accéder aux document officiels qui disent que les filles sur les photos peuvent avoir 18 mais que la police n'est pas en mesure de confirmer si elle ont entre 15 et 18 ans ou plus !!!


Moi je suis partisan de la peine de mort où au minimum l'émasculation des pédophiles et ayant été flic je peux parler en connaissance de cause de ce qu'est une femme violée parce que parfois il m'est arrivé de vouloir foutre une balle en pleine tête à des enculés de merde qui ont commis l'irréparable !!!
Donc non je ne cautionne pas les actions d'un violeur ou un pédophile ici mais j'essaye juste de comprendre pourquoi en 2024 la justice qui a un million de fois la vie plus facile qu'il y a un siécle en matière de preuve matérielles en cas de meurtre ou de viol peut envoyer en prison pour 7 ans un homme en se basant sur la parole contre parole !!!
Des gens qui mettent des coup de couteaux à d'autres ne mettent parfois même pas un pied en prison alors mes propos ici ne sont pas pour dédouaner Dennis Burka de quoi que ce soit mais jusqu'à la fin de l'appel de son jugement je resterai sur mes positions NEUTRES en essayant uniquement de poser des questions et demandant aux gens de ne pas m'associer à lui ni me reprocher de ne pas soutenir les victimes !!!
Je suis quelqu'un qui sait à quel point la justice fait ce qu'elle veut !!! Quand j'ai photographié Chantal Nobel dedout dans sa cuisine en 1988 le tribunal de Draguignan à posé des éléments faux sur la table pour m'envoyer deux ans en prison.
Je n'ai du mon salut qu'au fait qu'ils ont commis une grave erreur qui m'a sauvé mais je suis passé à un millimètre de l'incarcération sur le champs !!! Et je pourrai en dire long sur plein de choses qui déconnent dans le systeme judiciaire ...

Donc laissons les ordures comme le Britshit ( qui a lui même avoué avec forcé des femmes ) jouer le chevalier blanc quand ça lui permet de faire de l'audience et gagner du fric sur YouTube ( Il n'a jamais montré la moindre preuve de rapport consensuel entre Mary Kalisy et lui et la filme aprés avoir écrit qu'elle est victime de traffic d'être humain ( et même si c'est faux c'est juste délirant )


Espérons que le procés en appel de Dennis Burka saura mettre en évidence des preuves matérielles suite auxquelles si c'est avéré je promet de faire des excuses publiques aux victimes pour la moindre mise en doute de leur honnêté sur mon forum !!!

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The Britshit is having a blast saying that I defend rapists and pedophiles but NO !!!


he even goes so far as to claim that Dennis sent me children which is incredible considering that he was able to access official documents which say that the girls in the photos may be 18 but that the police are not able to confirm if they are between 15 and 18 years old or older!!!


I am in favor of the death penalty or at least the emasculation of pedophiles. Having been a cop I can speak with full knowledge of what a raped woman is looking like because sometimes it happened that I wanted to shoot a bullet in head to the motherfuckers who have done the irreparable !!!
So no, I am not condoning the actions of a rapist or a pedophile here but I am just trying to understand why in 2024 the justice system has life a million times easier than a century ago in terms of material evidences in case of murder or rape can send a man to prison for 7 years based on word against word !!!
In Belgium people who stab others sometimes don't even set foot in prison so my words here are not to clear Dennis Burka of anything but until the end of the appeal of his judgment I will stand my NEUTRAL positions only trying to ask questions and asking people not to associate me with him or blame me for not supporting the victims !!!
I am someone who knows to what extent justice does what it wants!!! When I photographed Chantal Nobel standing in her kitchen in 1988, the Draguignan court placed false evidences on the table to send me to prison for two years.
I only owed my salvation to the fact that they made a serious error which saved me but I came within a millimeter of incarceration on the spot !!! And I can say a lot about a lot of things that go wrong in the judicial system...

So let's let scumbag like the Britshit (who himself confessed to forcing women) play the white knight when it allows him to gain an audience and earn money on YouTube (He has never shown the slightest proof of a relationship consensual between Mary Kalisy and him and filmed her after writing that she is a victim of human trafficking ( and even knowing it's not true it's just crazy)


Hopefully that Dennis Burka's appeal will be able to show material evidence following which if it is proven I promise to make a public apology to the victims for the slightest doubt of their honesty on my forum!!!

PW

I'm saying this because I feel I should try and defend the guy as he did me. I'm not an expert and I don't know all the details of whats gone off. I'm also a newbie, so suspect me if you wish.
From what I've read here and what I've just looked at on the internet, i'd say this dennis guy isn't a decent man. I understand peoples points but you don;t go to prison if you're a good guy.
To Pierre I ask this really tentatively because I don't want to get myself banned after I've only just got here. But. You say that you almost went to prison but was saved because they made an error. Well surely that only means you didn;t go to prison because they made an error, not because you weren't guilty? I'm not saying you were guilty, but it could be taken that way I guess.
Beating up on ton681 isn't going to change anything, in fact you're only making yourselves look bad by trying to defend someone who doesn't deserve it. Sometimes it's better to just keep quiet rather than dig an even bigger hole for yourselves.
With that, I'll stop digging myself.

Well surely that only means you didn;t go to prison because they made an error, not because you weren't guilty? I'm not saying you were guilty, but it could be taken that way I guess.

Yes sorry I should have wrote it differently but my "frenglish" you know ..

To make it short the husband of this lady wanted me in jail. They haven't any prove about my implication but they build some.
They presented a rolls of inversible and a film in black color saying when police catched me I opened the camera and burned the film ( it wasn't true I still have this photo ) but they did a huge error or mistake call it as you want because the inversible turns white and not black. They were not smart enough to pay attention that the rolls and the films they presented at the audience could not match together. I did a huge scandal and one lady on the left of the judge asked to see the elements they showed and then spoke to the ears of the president. Obvioulsy that lady knew I was right and they released me ...
The story is much longer and complicate and I'll explain all in detail one day but that day the court lied in order set up what they wanted !!! By miracle they failed but ...

in fact you're only making yourselves look bad by trying to defend someone who doesn't deserve it.

It's not about Dennis or Derek or someone I don't know ... it's about what for me the justice has to be !!!
I know it's sometime very hard to judge a case and be always perfect but for me the justice it's the evidence and not only what anybody can said about anybody. In USA Derek has already prove some girls was liars but of course there are part where probably he will get a sentence. But at least they use formal proves with evidences and it's what I wish to see for everyone !!!

Tommie Mc Donald got the papers from the parties of the cases so why he does not show the true words of police and the article of Belgian law about the fact it's enough to have a picture of a girl who looks underage to be in trouble even if she is over 18 in reality !!! For me it's not justice ...

Anyway Myself I will be in court on May 16 against Tommie Mc Donald and we will see if he will be so happy to speak about it on his podcast !!!

PW

PIERRE WOODMAN wrote: ↑

Sun May 05, 2024 6:48 pm

Anyway Myself I will be in court on May 16 against Tommie Mc Donald and we will see if he will be so happy to speak about it on his podcast !!!

PW

May i Ask, the Brit gonna be in court for what ? Diffamation againt you ?