RUSSIA - UKRAINE 2022 CONFLICT

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tango75jlb wrote:
Tue Mar 01, 2022 8:36 pm
En France, on avait interdit CNN et Fox News quand les USA et la Grande-Bretagne avait agressé l'Irak sans motif. Les sportifs américains et britanniques avaient été exclus de toutes les compétitions sportives dans le monde. Un principe ça ne se divise pas.
Nan j'rigole :idea: :idea: :idea:
Sur le coup c'est vrai, mais tu oublies que de nombreux pays avaient condamnés cette invasion de la même manière , mais il y a un principe que tu ignores , les USA ont un PIB et une puissance qui dépasse l'imagination, même la planète réunit à cette époque n'avait pas sa puissance ! Mais depuis l'émergence de la Chine tu remarqueras qu'ils se tiennent à carreau !

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Eintracht wrote:
Tue Mar 01, 2022 7:29 pm
MVitaly5 wrote:
Tue Mar 01, 2022 7:22 pm
It is immediately clear that you are still a teenager, or an adult with the brains of a teenager. Believe me, there are more important things in my life than football.
You are sounding that you really could use help concerning your (missing) social qualities.
I wish you would debate the guy instead of just attacking him. He made a lot of good points on Russia

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alexus2 wrote:
Tue Mar 01, 2022 10:06 pm

I wish you would debate the guy instead of just attacking him. He made a lot of good points on Russia
There is no point in debating somebody who denies any counterargument as Western lies and calls objectors stupid. Not gonna waste my time, buddy.
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Eintracht wrote:
Tue Mar 01, 2022 10:26 pm
alexus2 wrote:
Tue Mar 01, 2022 10:06 pm

I wish you would debate the guy instead of just attacking him. He made a lot of good points on Russia
There is no point in debating somebody who denies any counterargument as Western lies and calls objectors stupid. Not gonna waste my time, buddy.
After reading the thread he never attack anyone first. He express his frustration for people who are not reading his post and got called names for it so he in return responded by calling the other poster stupid. I bet if you debate him he will present you with what perspective is on the other side. In this case his perspective is valid because we all know that the western democracy is not the only way. His english writing is not good because is english is not his native tounge and he indicated that in his post. We have to read in to his post. You have to take in account that his argument is also valid as thats what he believes. This argument is not black and white or right and wrong.

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alexus2 wrote:
Tue Mar 01, 2022 10:06 pm
I wish you would debate the guy instead of just attacking him. He made a lot of good points on Russia
Тут суть в том, что они все нападают на Россию, оскорбляют ее. Но для конструктивной дискуссии, они бояться назвать свою национальность и государство в котором они проживают.
А боятся потому, потому что я могу привести сотни примеров, как в историческом масштабе, так и в настоящем, когда их государства будут выглядеть очень бледно. Грехов и глупых поступков то у всех наций хватает. У меня нет никакого желания оскорблять другие нации, и тем более я не испытываю от этого удовольствия. Но как контраргумент, я могу продемонстрировать этим людям, что абсолютно "святых" в мире нет.
Я абсолютно не требую любви к России, тем более к действиям ее лидеров, это их личное право выбора. Я всегду буду уважать констуктив в позиции оппонента, подкрепленный фактическими аргументами и документами, а не различными фейками.

The bottom line here is that they all attack Russia, insult it. But for a constructive discussion, they are afraid to name their nationality and the state in which they live.
And they are afraid because I can give hundreds of examples, both on a historical scale and in the present, when their states will look very pale. All nations have enough sins and stupid deeds. I have no desire to offend other nations, and even more so I do not feel pleasure from this. But as a counterargument, I can demonstrate to these people that there are no absolutely "saints" in the world.
I absolutely do not demand love for Russia, especially for the actions of its leaders, this is their personal right to choose. I will always respect the constructive in the opponent's position, backed up by actual arguments and documents, and not various fakes.

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alexus2 wrote:
Tue Mar 01, 2022 11:00 pm
His english writing is not good
Да согласен, мой английский весьма плох. Ну я специально пишу сначала на своем родном языке, где, я надеюсь, я излагаю свои мысле более качественно. :D Как вариант воспользоваться встроенным в сайт переводчиком, где имеется русский язык. Я не знаю насколько качественно он переводит, но ничего, к сожаленью другого предложить не могу. У меня жена более менее владеет английским языком, но ей совершенно не интересно этим заниматься. :D

Yes, I agree, my English is quite bad. Well, I specifically write first in my native language, where I hope I express my thoughts more qualitatively. :D As an option, use the translator built into the site, where there is Russian. I don’t know how well he translates, but unfortunately I can’t offer anything else. My wife is more or less fluent in English, but she is not at all interested in doing this. :D

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Is there anything we can we do through you to help the Ukranians?

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bucki125 wrote:
Tue Mar 01, 2022 11:39 pm
Is there anything we can we do through you to help the Ukranians?
Через вашего журналиста Анатолия Шария можно помочь украинским простым людям. Он не касается политического и военного конфликта, а через членов своей партии и журналистов, связывается с людьми в Украине и помогают чем могу. У него есть фонд, куда перечисляются деньги. Даже россияне и я в том числе, перечисляют туда деньги, потому что они помогают просто простым людям, попавшем в беду в связи с этим конфликтом.

Through your journalist Anatoly Shariy, Ukrainian ordinary people can be helped. He does not deal with the political and military conflict, but through members of his party and journalists, he contacts people in Ukraine and helps in any way I can. He has a fund where money is transferred. Even the Russians, including myself, transfer money there, because they help just ordinary people who are in trouble in connection with this conflict.

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alexus2 wrote:
Tue Mar 01, 2022 11:00 pm

After reading the thread he never attack anyone first. He express his frustration for people who are not reading his post and got called names for it so he in return responded by calling the other poster stupid. I bet if you debate him he will present you with what perspective is on the other side. In this case his perspective is valid because we all know that the western democracy is not the only way. His english writing is not good because is english is not his native tounge and he indicated that in his post. We have to read in to his post. You have to take in account that his argument is also valid as thats what he believes. This argument is not black and white or right and wrong.
All I'll say on this matter is that good ol' Ein-stain has some nerve calling anyone stupid, what with his hysterical characterization of Trump as an 'antidemocratic sociopath'. Well, sociopath is a character judgement, he might or might not be one, but the whole term... not even CNN's talking heads believe that crap. :lol: If anything, Trump's too liberal for his own good, and for what used to be his constituency.

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alexus2 wrote:
Tue Mar 01, 2022 11:00 pm
After reading the thread he never attack anyone first. He express his frustration for people who are not reading his post and got called names for it so he in return responded by calling the other poster stupid.
Not surprising that you think that was since the first thing you said when appearing here was to say “I am here for support the Russians”. :lol:
This interpretation of his behavior here is quite quite exclusive.
After appearing, blaming everything on the west, denying flatly that the Russians do anything wrong and claiming all the attacks on civil targets were done by the Ukrainians themselves he was quickly falsified and then attacked members and you don’t see that?
Sure, with your bias, no wonder.
mspm89 wrote:
Wed Mar 02, 2022 12:21 am
All I'll say on this matter is that good ol' Ein-stain has some nerve calling anyone stupid, what with his hysterical characterization of Trump as an 'antidemocratic sociopath'. Well, sociopath is a character judgement, he might or might not be one, but the whole term... not even CNN's talking heads believe that crap. :lol: If anything, Trump's too liberal for his own good, and for what used to be his constituency.


Aaah mspm (= appreciation for marginal small penis masturbation) the guy who trivialized the holocaust. No wonder you think Trump is too liberal (!!) since you characterize “Mein Kampf” as “nice but too mellow”.
Having somebody like you on your side is a clear sign to be on the wrong side. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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