RUSSIA - UKRAINE 2022 CONFLICT

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alexus2 wrote:
Tue Mar 01, 2022 10:06 pm
I wish you would debate the guy instead of just attacking him. He made a lot of good points on Russia
Тут суть в том, что они все нападают на Россию, оскорбляют ее. Но для конструктивной дискуссии, они бояться назвать свою национальность и государство в котором они проживают.
А боятся потому, потому что я могу привести сотни примеров, как в историческом масштабе, так и в настоящем, когда их государства будут выглядеть очень бледно. Грехов и глупых поступков то у всех наций хватает. У меня нет никакого желания оскорблять другие нации, и тем более я не испытываю от этого удовольствия. Но как контраргумент, я могу продемонстрировать этим людям, что абсолютно "святых" в мире нет.
Я абсолютно не требую любви к России, тем более к действиям ее лидеров, это их личное право выбора. Я всегду буду уважать констуктив в позиции оппонента, подкрепленный фактическими аргументами и документами, а не различными фейками.

The bottom line here is that they all attack Russia, insult it. But for a constructive discussion, they are afraid to name their nationality and the state in which they live.
And they are afraid because I can give hundreds of examples, both on a historical scale and in the present, when their states will look very pale. All nations have enough sins and stupid deeds. I have no desire to offend other nations, and even more so I do not feel pleasure from this. But as a counterargument, I can demonstrate to these people that there are no absolutely "saints" in the world.
I absolutely do not demand love for Russia, especially for the actions of its leaders, this is their personal right to choose. I will always respect the constructive in the opponent's position, backed up by actual arguments and documents, and not various fakes.

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alexus2 wrote:
Tue Mar 01, 2022 11:00 pm
His english writing is not good
Да согласен, мой английский весьма плох. Ну я специально пишу сначала на своем родном языке, где, я надеюсь, я излагаю свои мысле более качественно. :D Как вариант воспользоваться встроенным в сайт переводчиком, где имеется русский язык. Я не знаю насколько качественно он переводит, но ничего, к сожаленью другого предложить не могу. У меня жена более менее владеет английским языком, но ей совершенно не интересно этим заниматься. :D

Yes, I agree, my English is quite bad. Well, I specifically write first in my native language, where I hope I express my thoughts more qualitatively. :D As an option, use the translator built into the site, where there is Russian. I don’t know how well he translates, but unfortunately I can’t offer anything else. My wife is more or less fluent in English, but she is not at all interested in doing this. :D

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Is there anything we can we do through you to help the Ukranians?

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bucki125 wrote:
Tue Mar 01, 2022 11:39 pm
Is there anything we can we do through you to help the Ukranians?
Через вашего журналиста Анатолия Шария можно помочь украинским простым людям. Он не касается политического и военного конфликта, а через членов своей партии и журналистов, связывается с людьми в Украине и помогают чем могу. У него есть фонд, куда перечисляются деньги. Даже россияне и я в том числе, перечисляют туда деньги, потому что они помогают просто простым людям, попавшем в беду в связи с этим конфликтом.

Through your journalist Anatoly Shariy, Ukrainian ordinary people can be helped. He does not deal with the political and military conflict, but through members of his party and journalists, he contacts people in Ukraine and helps in any way I can. He has a fund where money is transferred. Even the Russians, including myself, transfer money there, because they help just ordinary people who are in trouble in connection with this conflict.

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alexus2 wrote:
Tue Mar 01, 2022 11:00 pm

After reading the thread he never attack anyone first. He express his frustration for people who are not reading his post and got called names for it so he in return responded by calling the other poster stupid. I bet if you debate him he will present you with what perspective is on the other side. In this case his perspective is valid because we all know that the western democracy is not the only way. His english writing is not good because is english is not his native tounge and he indicated that in his post. We have to read in to his post. You have to take in account that his argument is also valid as thats what he believes. This argument is not black and white or right and wrong.
All I'll say on this matter is that good ol' Ein-stain has some nerve calling anyone stupid, what with his hysterical characterization of Trump as an 'antidemocratic sociopath'. Well, sociopath is a character judgement, he might or might not be one, but the whole term... not even CNN's talking heads believe that crap. :lol: If anything, Trump's too liberal for his own good, and for what used to be his constituency.

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alexus2 wrote:
Tue Mar 01, 2022 11:00 pm
After reading the thread he never attack anyone first. He express his frustration for people who are not reading his post and got called names for it so he in return responded by calling the other poster stupid.
Not surprising that you think that was since the first thing you said when appearing here was to say “I am here for support the Russians”. :lol:
This interpretation of his behavior here is quite quite exclusive.
After appearing, blaming everything on the west, denying flatly that the Russians do anything wrong and claiming all the attacks on civil targets were done by the Ukrainians themselves he was quickly falsified and then attacked members and you don’t see that?
Sure, with your bias, no wonder.
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Wed Mar 02, 2022 12:21 am
All I'll say on this matter is that good ol' Ein-stain has some nerve calling anyone stupid, what with his hysterical characterization of Trump as an 'antidemocratic sociopath'. Well, sociopath is a character judgement, he might or might not be one, but the whole term... not even CNN's talking heads believe that crap. :lol: If anything, Trump's too liberal for his own good, and for what used to be his constituency.


Aaah mspm (= appreciation for marginal small penis masturbation) the guy who trivialized the holocaust. No wonder you think Trump is too liberal (!!) since you characterize “Mein Kampf” as “nice but too mellow”.
Having somebody like you on your side is a clear sign to be on the wrong side. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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MVitaly5 wrote:
Tue Mar 01, 2022 11:53 pm
bucki125 wrote:
Tue Mar 01, 2022 11:39 pm
Is there anything we can we do through you to help the Ukranians?
Through your journalist Anatoly Shariy, Ukrainian ordinary people can be helped. He does not deal with the political and military conflict, but through members of his party and journalists, he contacts people in Ukraine and helps in any way I can. He has a fund where money is transferred. Even the Russians, including myself, transfer money there, because they help just ordinary people who are in trouble in connection with this conflict.
Sharif??? Are you joking?????
The guy who provoked by singing pro-Kreml songs on the maidan? Who once called western-Ukrainians inferior due to being allegedly mixed-race??
This guy is nothing else than a pro- Russian propagandist!

No surprise here

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As someone who have unfortunatelly seen USA/NATO democracy in practice (the greatest hypocrites in the world), and know that they openly support terrorists when it's in their interest and making conflicts all around the world, I totally understand Russia, who is forced into this. I have friends on both sides and know situation very well and hope this all will end well and with no much more damage than it's already done. But I also understand that someone who lives in the EU countries have no clue what is going on. The problem is that they're sure they understand everything. And it's funny how USA/NATO who started hundred wars are still good guys in most people's eyes and Russia is bad when they do the same (and rightfully so).
Russia have many bad sides but for this what is happening right now, I can not blame them for anything. I'd always rather choose to live in USA, if I had to choose, but one of the reasons that the life there is better there is that they are destroying another countries and taking they wealth, which they would like to do with Russia too.

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Eintracht wrote:
Wed Mar 02, 2022 5:43 am
Sharif??? Are you joking?????
The guy who provoked by singing pro-Kreml songs on the maidan? Who once called western-Ukrainians inferior due to being allegedly mixed-race??
This guy is nothing else than a pro- Russian propagandist!

No surprise here

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Я не знаю, кто такой Шариф! Это видимо какой-то твой друг, и ты по глупости своей, плюнул в него.
Речь идет об украинском блогере Анатолие Шарие. Он находится сейчас в одной из стран Евросоюза. Он опозиционен украинской власти и-за поддержки последней нацистов в стране и дикой корупции. Он против конфликта, и не поддерживает действия ни российской, ни украинской власти. По этому занимается абсолютно только гуманитарными вопросами, потдерживая простые украинские семьи, у которых возникли проблемы. Он имеет колосальную популярность среди украинцев. Его блог на You-tube, имеет около 3 миллионов подписчиков. Члены его партии и журналисты, находяться сейчас на территории украинских городом и осуществляют коммуникацию. Уже очень многим людям помогли.
Ты же пес шалудивый, просто злобный гнус, которому просто плевать на простых украинцев. Ты изображаешь тут из себя защитника украинцев, на самом деле просто изливаешь тут свой яд, своим ядовитым языком. Это явный признак нациста, которому плевать на всех, даже на своих сародичей, не разделящих его фанатизм. Ты действуешь, как Бандеровец, которые убивали даже украинцев, которые отказывались им помогать.

I don't know who Sharif is! This is apparently some friend of yours, and you, out of your stupidity, spat at him.
We are talking about the Ukrainian blogger Anatoly Shariy. He is now in one of the countries of the European Union. He is in opposition to the Ukrainian authorities because of the support of the last Nazis in the country and wild corruption. He is against the conflict and does not support the actions of either the Russian or Ukrainian authorities. Therefore, he deals with absolutely only humanitarian issues, supporting ordinary Ukrainian families who have problems. It has tremendous popularity among Ukrainians. His blog on You-tube has about 3 million subscribers. Members of his party and journalists are now on the territory of Ukrainian cities and communicate. Already helped a lot of people.
You're a playful dog, just a vicious gnome who just doesn't care about ordinary Ukrainians. You are pretending to be a defender of Ukrainians here, in fact, you are just pouring out your poison here, with your poisonous tongue. This is a clear sign of a Nazi who does not care about everyone, even his relatives, who do not share his fanaticism. You act like Bandera, who even killed Ukrainians who refused to help them.

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MVitaly5 wrote:
Wed Mar 02, 2022 8:32 am

I don't know who Sharif is! This is apparently some friend of yours, and you, out of your stupidity, spat at him.
We are talking about the Ukrainian blogger Anatoly Shariy. He is now in one of the countries of the European Union. He is in opposition to the Ukrainian authorities because of the support of the last Nazis in the country and wild corruption. He is against the conflict and does not support the actions of either the Russian or Ukrainian authorities. Therefore, he deals with absolutely only humanitarian issues, supporting ordinary Ukrainian families who have problems. It has tremendous popularity among Ukrainians. His blog on You-tube has about 3 million subscribers. Members of his party and journalists are now on the territory of Ukrainian cities and communicate. Already helped a lot of people.
You're a playful dog, just a vicious gnome who just doesn't care about ordinary Ukrainians. You are pretending to be a defender of Ukrainians here, in fact, you are just pouring out your poison here, with your poisonous tongue. This is a clear sign of a Nazi who does not care about everyone, even his relatives, who do not share his fanaticism. You act like Bandera, who even killed Ukrainians who refused to help them.
I am also talking about Anatoly "The voice of the Kremlin" Shariy. :lol:
He is the posterboy of Russians who pretend to act in the Ukraine's interest.
I am not falling for this very obvious attempt of yours. :lol:

Aaaah, now I am a Nazi??? :lol:
You are sick in the head my friend and you play a very perfidious game.
Get help.
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