@ liabatyd:

It's refreshing to hear these comments. It's a little bit frustrating to deal with the negativity of other nations when I know we will be the first to respond when there is tyranny, a natural disaster or any other threat to humanity. If you look at the money that we give - and I do not mean the US Government - the private citizens of this country are some of the most selfless and caring on the planet. I am not a big Bush fan - he raised taxes, tripled government spending. But yes, we have had far worse, especially when it comes to foreign affairs.Our current president is clueless in this arena - especially when it comes to the Middle East.

I never saw these cartoons before! Thank you, I am enjoying them! - I love the American Civil War. Maybe because so many battles happened right around where I am living, it's easy to touch these places and feel the connection.

4am.... you are in my are in my Boyfriend's time zone.... He's in the Sultanate of Oman for work. 8 hours difference is very tough! Have a good sleep.... I have to go download the new WUNF before I end my evening

Remember the "9-11" and even painful, we can say our opinion but nothing else because our governments do not care about what was best for the people, thinking that then you are agreements between governments that do not will there ever to stay stunned.
One thing it hurts most of all, to see our children die for the conspiracies of the so-called "leaders"

I share this feeling too !

PW

Oh yeah, so you really think 9/11 was just a conspiracy that the government intentionally allowed just to start wars of which no one could guess the outcomes of? Such a conspiracy would involve hundreds if not thousands of people; if such a conspiracy ever was found out, there would be riots in every US city. Got any evidence of this BS conspiracy?

Denying the facts of 9/11 is the same as denying the Holocaust or denying evolution; just because someone has some BS innuendo doesn't mean it translates into BS evidence. Conspiracy theories such as controlled explosions and Flight 93 have long been scientifically disproved.

The reason why 3000 people died that day, the reason why Egypt is now unsafe to travel to, the reason why Paris burned in 2005, and the reason why Daniel Pearl was beheaded was because of Islam, which most cowards in the West (and this forum) are too afraid to admit. Radical Islam is as much a part of Islam as "moderate" or "liberal" Islam. I suggest suggest anyone who denies 9/11 go get themselves circumcised (Khitān), those apologists for Islam.

Stick with porn Woodman, critical thinking is obviously not one of your strengths.

Don't try to make the excuse that what Muslims do to the West is just revenge for Western foreign policy. The US incinerated both Korea and Vietnam...how many Koreans or Vietnamese blow themselves up or fly planes into buildings?

Marksy,

I agree with the general statement, but you have to realize you can say nothing to change the minds of some people. We reach a point in the discussion where I realized we were at a stalemate. Of course there is no proof of any conspiracy theory. It's as good as trying to prove or disprove the existence of a deity. Some just choose to go on blind faith as is the case of these conspiracy theorists.

At some point, we have to be the better people and let this whole thing rest.

Of course there is no proof of any conspiracy theory. It's as good as trying to prove or disprove the existence of a deity. Some just choose to go on blind faith as is the case of these conspiracy theorists.

Well said!

Marksy wrote:Well said!

I know, I know... smart AND cute... it's dangerous!

What ever all of us think about the arguments, is there some specific element that you can't contest :

9 Secondes for EACH towers to fall down is one of them !!!

420 meters hight tower of beton mixed with lateral metallic stick concepted to resist to a flexion of 1 meters makes impossible to fall down the building in less than 30/ 50 secondes without a explosif dispositif !
The associations of the 1000 best americans architecs have confirmed this fact !!!

And there are many others things ...
I know some very high level polititians and trust me they share at 100 % my opinion in private discussions, but will never tell it officialy !

PW

WE have already been over the physics of this. I don't know where you get this...


Yes, all politicians are accurate and trustworthy.... NEXT!

We can go back and for the rest of our life on this topic.

liabatyd wrote: For all you complot thinkers I have another one: it was Michael Moore who organized this so that he could fill his pockets creating some sf-documentaries. And if you want I am sure I can find an angle to bring Elvis and Marilyn in the story as well.

Whilst you guys think of this I will invite Rafale for a drink.
liabatyd

you forgot michael jackson!
concerning the conspiracy, I don't think they minded anything, I'm sure they did a conspiracy to making up the roots of it from saudi arabia to irak.
they even found nukes in irak where there were no nukes there.
and worst, all the medias in USA accepted then confirmed the nukes.
Washington post and NYT finished to apology 5 years later because they didnt search very well the evidence of all those shits. so your point of view is not right
you can hide truth during years.
the point is like in a murder, if your alibi seems to be wrong people start to think you are guilty