Anyone who doesn't get the vaccine is clearly irresponsible and has no regard for the health of anyone else.

Sorry man, I am not a puppet who want see inside my blood a vaccin done in a year when most of the regular vaccin needs 10 years to be seriously tested !!!

A lot of people have gotten naturaly defense against the SARS 2 and no one want take it in consideration. For instance myself I would like understand why I fucked 7 girls with Covid and didn't got it. I'm nearly 60 years old and basically exposed as high risk person. So why no problem till now ???

So yes for the "pro vaccin" I am irresponsible but considering the people having 2 injection are also able to die tell me why it must be an obligation to have it ??? Why Austria just locked everybody, vaccinated and non vaccinated if this vaccin is so good ???

Last time I put a vaccin in my body was in 1999 to be protected against Hepatitis B

So for instance this vaccin elaboration started in 1963 ( Baruch Blumberg the year I born ) and he got the Nobel price in 1976 for the first generation of the vaccin ( 13 years after the first step )

The begining of the vaccination for everyone started in 1986 ( 23 years after the first step ) and when I got my injections series I was 36 years old and it was the time this vaccin was accused to give Sclerosis !!!

Recently two labor did a new vaccin against Hepatitis B
l’Engerix-B 13 ( GlaxoSmithKline) and the Recombivax HB14 (Merck) supposed be much better than the original one.

So yes I want believe a vaccin having request more than 50 years of reseaches and been injected million and million of time with not so much troubles. But a vaccin one year old ... come on !!!

PW

Pierre, it is very easy.
You fuck girls. It is your pleasure and its your job.
You have responsibility for their well-being and their health.
All statistics and facts show that the vaccination enormously reduces the risk to infect others.
You should leave know doubt that the well-being of your team and your girls is your highest aspiration.
This should lead yourself to a very easy and rational conclusion.

Just a remark: Your statement is not correct again. If you would have informed yourself correctly, you would know that the vaccine research for the COV-roots is already several years old, not one as you state here. The available vaccines have been developed on the years-long research that was already available.

bobwww wrote: ↑

Tue Nov 23, 2021 5:39 pm

Anyone who doesn't get the vaccine is clearly irresponsible and has no regard for the health of anyone else.

Do not listen to these morons who promote conspiracy theories!

That's horseshit! Vaccine should be utmost private matter of every individual. Plus, Vaccine won't fully protect you from covid, and I definitely do not plan to have a jab every year till I die, like sheep to the slaughter. Given that proper vaccines are in production several years, not several months. What you hear in mainstream media is mostly garbage said by politicians who know squat about it.

It's a no end debate, as each of you have his own point of view, the most important is that you respect yours feelings and that you understand each others

milster wrote: ↑

Tue Nov 23, 2021 10:31 pm

What you hear in mainstream media is mostly garbage said by politicians who know squat about it.

Thats the issue. The pathological hate against media and politicians.
Not the vaccine.
If the media and politicians would advice on wearing warm clothes at winter half of this forum would become frozen nudists.

Jean wrote: ↑

Tue Nov 23, 2021 10:38 pm

It's a no end debate, as each of you have his own point of view, the most important is that you respect yours feelings and that you understand each others

Fully agree, in life you place your bets and see how it goes..simple as that

Eintracht wrote: ↑

Tue Nov 23, 2021 10:39 pm

milster wrote: ↑

Tue Nov 23, 2021 10:31 pm

What you hear in mainstream media is mostly garbage said by politicians who know squat about it.

If the media and politicians would advice on wearing warm clothes at winter half of this forum would become frozen nudists.

Sadly, I don't see that happening anytime soon

Jean wrote: ↑

Tue Nov 23, 2021 10:38 pm

It's a no end debate, as each of you have his own point of view, the most important is that you respect yours feelings and that you understand each others

Not in this case. The anti-vaxxers are compromising the health of everyone else. The scientific community are united in believing we're better off having the vaccine, and I'd rather believe them than a bunch of conspiracy theorists.

bobwww wrote: ↑

Wed Nov 24, 2021 9:02 am

Not in this case. The anti-vaxxers are compromising the health of everyone else. The scientific community are united in believing we're better off having the vaccine, and I'd rather believe them than a bunch of conspiracy theorists.

I agree with you! While we have to respect everyones opinions, and it is their right to choose not to take the vaccine. This is compromising the safety of everyone. People are too much with their conspiracy theories. When a person is hurt, break their leg or sick. Where do they go? To doctor or hospital to get better. Medical professionals are thete to help people, not to kill them. Like come on. Everyone is sceptical to take the vaccine because people are talking nonsense that it will harm you. Research and statistics prove otherwise. My country has seen an improvement in recovery for those who have now taken the vaccine. So...this idea that the vaccine is a conspiracy is 100% bullshit in my opinion. I have taken mine long ago. I am fine. People don't understand the vaccine that's why they talk bullshit. The vaccine is not a cure....! You are still susceptible, but....it helps prevent fatalites! This is where people say if it don't prevent then why take it? A family member took the vaccine, he had the covid but he recovered quick. So yes..the vaccine works. It won't work 100% for everyone but it is there to help people, not kill them. People are stupid to think that way.

bobwww wrote: ↑

Wed Nov 24, 2021 9:02 am

Not in this case. The anti-vaxxers are compromising the health of everyone else. The scientific community are united in believing we're better off having the vaccine, and I'd rather believe them than a bunch of conspiracy theorists.

I personaly compromise the life of nobody, i don't go in the place where the pass is needed, i respect distance, i put mask and do pcr/antigenic test regulary, and i don't do propagande "anti vaxx " as everyone is free to take the vaccine or not, but saying what people have to do or not, if you go this way, you will also reminds to people to not forget to drive slowly, to not smoke in public, ect ect ect


About the word "conspiracy" that you used, admit that when we see some director of Pfizer, running fast away when some journalist just want to talk , it doesn't help to feel 100% safe about the vaccine :

https://mobile.twitter.com/raduvio74949 ... 3410566146?

And this not theory, it's reality, they should explain things to journalist and stop running away, if all is 100% safe and if they want all people vaccined, simple !