good point
and there is a disney park in paris
never been and won't ever

totoro wrote:good point
and there is a disney park in paris
never been and won't ever

Hahaha! Me either! So, different reasons, but a point on which we find common ground!

Siegfried wrote: Disneyland Paris is NOT in Paris but near Paris : in a city called Chessy at 30 km from the centre of Paris.

Ahhh, I should have caught this, as I am previously educated on this point!

Thanks, My Dear!

Yeah but once again mathematics and chimic and physic are real serious sciences !!!
If a building is done with some precise physical constructions it means even if you make a division by two of what was supposed to support as pressure the lethal in the tower, it doesn't make less than 10 s !!! It's like the "weapon of massive destructions " it has never exist and anyway it's the reason why almost half million people die ( and it's not finished ) in Iraq which was the country who hates the most Saddam Hussein before and after 9/11 !!!
Something doesn't work and for me a building like the Tower 7 who don't get touch by ANYTHING has no any reason to collapse in few seconds !
In Brazil two years ago a plane crash on airport in a building, almost all the entire plane stay outside ! Where is the plane crashing on Pentagone ??? There is at least 100 camera around Pentagone but only one video to show this "plane" and myself I can do the same in two minutes with my computer...
But I hope the truth will be know officialy before I die ! Who will have believed 40 years ago Kennedy was ready to sacrified 400 americans in a plane crash in order to attack Cuba ? NOBODY and today we know it was one of his plan stopped by the minister of defense !!! For sure one day we will know the true face of BUSH !!!

PW

Yes, I am talking science. You pick and choose to use the sources that present the "facts" that you want to hear, not the reality.

You are wasting your breath in this conversation if you are trying to convince me. So far, I see nothing solid and indisputable from you.

If you enjoy wasting your time on me, then I can think of another way to accomplish this...

Yes better that way because only americans are pride of their war ... all others more or less does their Mea Culpa but not americans !
Myself I feel shame for US nation when I see what chaos is now in Iraq and how many civilians die ! And all this for what ? Saddam was the ennemy of Al Quaida, so why ?
Now americans run away from this country they was never able to control and which NOW is more islamist than ever and where probabily soon the civilian war will destroy so many life !

PW

This is a typical Frenchie thing to say. You are not winning on the topic, which is whether or not 9/11 was a conspiracy, so you make some snide comment about Americans. Thanks for living up to your nationality.

Of course we made some mistakes, we are not perfect like the Holier-than-Thou French. But that is not the conversation. The conversation is did our own government blow up the World Trade Center. You have YET to give one Ounce of SOLID proof. You have yet to sway me, and you cannot keep your head about this, so you try to take some cheap shot.

I am done in this topic since you are resorting to this.

i dont like to talk about politics on this forum but i have to step into the breach for rafale. i also dont believe in a sabotage of 9/11 BUT i believe that governments sometimes use mock reasons eg. Iraq war but also in Russia the second chechen war, see below.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_ap ... secutors-1

This is frightening!

alex82 wrote:i dont like to talk about politics on this forum but i have to step into the breach for rafale. i also dont believe in a sabotage of 9/11 BUT i believe that governments sometimes use mock reasons eg. Iraq war but also in Russia the second chechen war, see below.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_ap ... secutors-1

This is frightening!

That's crazy!

I agree! There is much politics behind it! In Iraq, I WISH it were about oil! I wish I could say we went in, set up and maintained a government, long term and were shipping back enough free oil to off-set the expense of the war and the expense to set up schools, rebuild, and other money we dumped into the situation.

But the reality, there is pressure and politic everywhere. Factions within Iraq pushing for us to overturn Saddam, the Saudis and other nations, too. There are layers and levels to this we cannot imagine.

I for one, however, get tired of us coddling and trying to please every nation on the planet to our determent. One is upset if we don't act, another upset if we do. It's not something we can win.

The thing I know for sure, we are the first to answer where there is some catastrophe. The first to pledge help. Not just the government, but individual citizens in this country reach into their pockets and give more to organizations like the Red Cross and other international aide institutions than any other people. Even when it's on the other side of the world, in a place we cannot see and with people we do not know, we are still moved to action.... earthquake, invasion, tsunami, it doesn't matter, we always show up.