Yes exactly my point and why i said the Porn Industry is hit much much harder than the "other regular" industries. I said "hot" but it was a type, meant "hit" and i couldn't edit lol.PIERRE WOODMAN wrote:Nice post but then if it's so good the piracy, why I don't like it, and why 80 % of the production have disappaeared or are on the way to mostly after they sold their business to ... pirates groups !!!
You sample about other business are speaking about people having made 100 times their money back before to care about anything.
Me too if tomorrow I have 50 000 members here, I will not care of piracy ...
PW
I heard that its because of the porn industry choosing the VHS that it became the number 1 media and pretty much killed BETAMAX despite it being better overall. In those days porn on VHS was huge. But even in the mid 2000s i was renting porn from the video store (oh the memories of the shame putting this on the counter before a hot clerk...) and i would notice there was not that much DVDs actually. Lots of VHS. Shortly after i got a better computer and high speed internet came around in my local town. Its like internet came around at a similar time as the switch to DVD and therefore it never properly happened. Obviously yes some movies are still made in DVDs and Blu ray today but porn is mainly an internet thing now.
This is pretty much around the same time the actresses of the VHS era started to quit (Jenna Jameson, Tera Patrick and others) and with them the big compagnies died or became much much smaller. Hell i learned the other day that Wicked was still around. I had no idea... I used to rent/buy lots of there movies back then.
Vivid at some point was pretty much THE compagny when you tough Porn. I just checked there website (to see if they where still around) and when you arrive on the main page it seem that the Kim Kardashian sextape and other "C-list" celebrities are the main focuss. You check the pornstars and you see girls like Tiffany Taylor or Breanne Benson who quited years ago...
They don't seem to be up to date at all. Its like they couldn't make the switch properly in time and got declassified by Brazzers when it came around (and other clone websites like it)
Its interesting because it lead me to former Pornstar Veronica Vain who has now open a Youtube Channel under her real name. She is pretty open about it and talk porn all the time and have storytime about her porn experience. Saying this just so you know i am not "outing" her in any way lol. So because of her popularity as a porn star she managed to get a following on youtube, small at first but the more she made content the more she got, and now she is i would say kinda popular as a youtuber because she marketed herself nicely. The good part of this story is that because of her following, she was able to resurect her former project call "Bangbox" wich is some digital porn distribution platform. She give a tiny % of ownership to the "backers" that help her fund the project.
Its in infancy stage for the moment but im really eager to see where it will go cause her project seem much more interesting than any tube site or whatever. It was with a subscription and all but promised lots of content easily accessible for your favourite stars.
ANYWAY where i am going with all of this is that the porn market has evolve, like a lot. From 2002's Vivid days to 2005 or so (the beginning of Brazzers) to 2012 and co when HD became the norm and scenes started to be much nicer to look at in general to NOW in 2018 where we are.
Piracy is a thing that will always exist and existed in the past. I still remember when me or my friends would buy a new music casette tape, we would have our 2 radios close to one another trying to record the music out of the original casette to make a copy for the other friends, not making any noises while it was going but ocasionally you would have a dog bark or something popping in
then one of us got the double trey radio and it was so much better to copy cassettes. We did it to movies 2 with 2 VCRs. We didn't even knew it was "piracy" back then, for us it was just normal. Bunch of kids trying the small money we had. We would also borrow NES games from one another etc. Internet only made it a much much bigger scale to a point it started to hurt the industries. The music industry adapted after having a hard time like i said in my previous post.
The movie industry , well its true some movies it does not matter that some peoples pirate them as you say Pierre, they already make there money back x10. But some indy studio who release great content still struggle. I remember Scott Adkins asking fans to specifically buy Boyka 4 if they wanted a fifth movie. He said he didn't care if peoples downloaded it for free to see it early as long as they ended up buying it, wich is what i did cause the movie took 3 months to come in Canada after the initial release. Even bough an extra copy for my cousin. Im all to encourage compagnies in those cases.
And to go full circle and get back to porn, obviously we are at a crossroad. Some dinosors are dying or dead (as i said above) while other compagnies adapted. But its much harder for indy and niche content maker.
Thats why i would say it would be a good idea maybe to try the tube sites again. Lots changed since 2011. And as you say even if you pay peoples to do DMCA claim or what peoples commonly refer as "copyright trolls", one will go away and 2 more will pop out.
I see a lot of niche content also joining a network or "portal". This can be a solution maybe too.
In any case all of what i say here is obviously just my personal opinion and i am by no mean a pro wall streek analyst or whatever
Just an "old" porn fan who started watching in the early 2000s and saw the major major evolution of the market.
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