MVitaly5 wrote: ↑

Wed Feb 22, 2023 11:57 pm

alexandrow wrote: ↑

Wed Feb 22, 2023 9:08 pm

@MVitaly5 Russia have the same propaganda as the west. Russia says the west starts the war and the west says russia starts the war. I think both sides are doing nothing for freedom. I am a russian man living in germany. I see news in germany and i see news in russia. I can tell you if you see news in germany you are on the side of the west. If i see news in russia i am on the side of russia. I dont know if you questioning yourself if the news in russia telll you the truth. It is impossible to tell the truth if you are in hand of the goverment and not independent.

I don't want to clutter up this topic, as Pierre asked, but I will answer your question.
I don't want to sound pompous, but I am a person who has seen a lot in my lifetime, who has been around international and military politics all my life, and at such an age that I have long since stopped making my opinion and viewpoint on any issues based on data from the media. As far as journalists are concerned, this is the second oldest profession and that says it all. I derive my knowledge from life experience and constant self-education. I have said this many times in this forum.

alexandrow wrote: ↑

Wed Feb 22, 2023 9:08 pm

Give me the source for this:

Merkel, Hollande, Poroshenko, Zelensky, Stoltenberg and other politicians have already admitted that they had no intention of implementing the Minsk agreements

https://www.zeit.de/2022/51/angela-merk ... ndex.ru%2F

https://kyivindependent.com/national/ho ... the-ground

As for Poroshenko, Zelenski and Stoltenberg, they keep talking about it in their speeches.

alexandrow wrote: ↑

Wed Feb 22, 2023 9:08 pm

and for this:

The US has no pity for anyone, they have already confirmed that they blew up the Nord Stream 2 pipeline, which was extremely beneficial to Europe

Of course, this is not an official recognition (the US is unlikely to recognise it officially), but Simon Hersh, a very influential American publicist and winner of several Pulitzer Prizes, is very close to US power circles.
Other American and European politicians are also open about it.
And most importantly, there is an ancient legal concept which says " Cui prodest?" I don't think you need to explain who benefits from this?

https://seymourhersh.substack.com/p/how ... eam?r=5mz1

I read the article about Merkel. She said with the Minsk agreements she wanted to give Ukraine time. Time to get stronger to defend itself. She never said it was to get stronger to start a war or something.
What do you think she was feeling after the Crimea annexation. Yeah Russia go on? Go take more?
Sometime it sounds like people just hear what they want to hear.

alexandrow wrote: ↑

Thu Feb 23, 2023 8:16 am

I read the article about Merkel. She said with the Minsk agreements she wanted to give Ukraine time. Time to get stronger to defend itself. She never said it was to get stronger to start a war or something.
What do you think she was feeling after the Crimea annexation. Yeah Russia go on? Go take more?
Sometime it sounds like people just hear what they want to hear.

Have you read the Minsk agreements? Apparently not. Then you would know what you are talking about.
The Minsk agreements were written to fulfil the obligations set out in those agreements, not to neglect them for some other purpose! There were clear commitments to be fulfilled by the parties. Then there would not have been a special military operation by Russia in Ukraine now. There would have been no need for it and no logical justification on Russia's part. These agreements were signed by the president of Ukraine and the representative of Dombas. And also, I underline, the signatures of the presidents: France, Germany and Russia, acting as guarantors of the implementation of these agreements. This is an international treaty approved by the UN. And now it is clear that Germany and France, having signed this treaty and acting as guarantors of its implementation, were brazenly stalling and not going to implement it. How can we trust you after this? Who will have anything to do with you? And you used this temporary head start to pump Ukraine with weapons. It has simply now become clear that the real purpose of concluding these agreements, on the part of Ukraine, France and Germany, was not to implement them, but to deceive the people of Dombas and Russia. And the Ukrainian authorities' plans to retake Dombass and, after that, Crimea, by military means is already known from intelligence reports and captured Ukrainian high-ranking officers (Azov and others). So Merkel and Hollande knew it too. Don't think they are naive fools, they are hypocritical and deceitful, yes, but not naive.


As for Crimea, it became part of Russia, after a popular referendum. All within the framework of the UN Charter on self-determination of peoples.

That's it!!! On this topic, in this forum thread, I will say no more. There is a detailed discussion of these issues in a separate thread on this forum. I have explained everything in detail hundreds of times. Take it and read it. We will not clutter up this thread.

P.S. By the way, there are other Russians living in Germany apart from you, and I have many friends there. Well, they think differently than you do, although they also get news from Germany. Because they try to think with their own heads, based on their great life experience and knowledge. One of my friends is Alexander Sosnovsky, editor of the online publication WORLD ECONOMY. He has lived in Germany for more than 30 years, and he knows everything about Germany. Listen to what he has to say...

I can see the sitiation is the same and everyone think the same ...
So I lock it again !!!

PW

I re-open this thread today because I would like everyone think seriously about the actual situation of this world and the sad war between Russia and Ukrain !!!

probably only few people have noticed this :

https://www.nasdaq.com/articles/china-c ... -lng-trade


and this : https://www.nytimes.com/2023/03/11/us/p ... biden.html



The last and ONLY people having traded gas and oil in other currency than $$$$$$$ were :

Saddam Hussen ... USA bombed him
Bachard Al Assad ... USA bombed him
Putin ... having brought for 1 year war with Ukrain

and today :


I ordered a new car three days ago ( Tesla ) but maybe I should better invest in an atomic shelters !!!

PW

As far as I know the warning of the US to its citizen to leave Russia is related to the arrest of a US journalist for spying in Russia.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-65121885

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US journalist Evan Gershkovich has been arrested in Russia and accused of spying while working for the Wall Street Journal.

An experienced Russia reporter, he was working in the city of Yekaterinburg at the time of his detention.

The White House has condemned his detention "in the strongest terms".

The Kremlin claimed he had been caught "red-handed" but the Wall Street Journal vehemently denied the allegations against him.
......
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In my view Russia is just building up some bargaining chips for future swaps of prisoners with the US, Like this one..
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https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/ ... list-party

The Russian arms dealer Viktor Bout, who returned home last week in a prisoner exchange for the American basketball star Brittney Griner, has joined the pro-Kremlin far-right Liberal Democratic party (LDPR), in a move that could see him seek a seat in the Russian parliament.

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So no special worries, enjoy your Tesla......

Well ... time will say all as always but in my opinion the world situation since a year stings the shit and I don't like it !!!

PW

I have a friend in Ukraine and send her from time to time some money to keep her going. Last year she said 2023 will be better and everything will be over. Seems not very realistic.

The world needs better ways to resolve conflicts quickly.

My suggestion is the Thunderdome system: 2 men enter - 1 man leaves / end of story.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9yDL0AKUCKo

Just saying

Yeah right !!!
The question is ... who will leave and how ???

PW

Seems Biden and Putin are waiting for the final result of the fight in the background.....

This one says a lot about the difference made by various states about who is in the shit and who deserves help !!!


https://www.instagram.com/reel/CrUrvC3g ... JmNzVkMjY=


My friend Phelan told me he likes wars only like this :

https://www.instagram.com/reel/CrEs71FB ... MyMTA2M2Y=

PW