Eintracht wrote: ↑

Sat Feb 26, 2022 12:37 pm

milster wrote: ↑

Sat Feb 26, 2022 12:02 pm

And no, you are idiot who when is shown the very clear link that as a matter of fact proves me right about Johnson, you were quick to discard as fake news.

Obviously you are missing basic cognitive abilities to read and understand information in written form.

That's a laugh coming from jerk like you. Either you are illiterate or willfully misread what I wrote, whose link I posted is nowhere in collusion with what I wrote. But sure - continue with your blah blah story.

The fact that some people here can actually talk about what a great leader Putin is, when innocent people are terrified for their lives, it's just mind boggling. You're all fucking nutjobs seriously

milster wrote: ↑

Sat Feb 26, 2022 9:24 pm

That's a laugh coming from jerk like you. Either you are illiterate or willfully misread what I wrote, whose link I posted is nowhere in collusion with what I wrote. But sure - continue with your blah blah story.

Aaah, milster has charged his prepaid card again to surf the internet! You got 59 minutes left, have fun, don't feel pressed to answer me, otherwise it will be quite a hurry to squeeze the forum visit, check of your favorite Telegram groups AND a wank into this short timeframe.

JohnWick wrote: ↑

Sat Feb 26, 2022 9:29 pm

The fact that some people here can actually talk about what a great leader Putin is, when innocent people are terrified for their lives, it's just mind boggling. You're all fucking nutjobs seriously

Fairly adequate description.

Eintracht wrote: ↑

Sat Feb 26, 2022 8:57 pm

MVitaly5 wrote: ↑

Sat Feb 26, 2022 8:33 pm

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Thanks for mentioning me and that huge text, now I know of your assessment of Putin as very charismatic (not that this is of any importance in this context) unfortunately none the content is relevant.
Why?
Because we are not here to discuss about the bad things the NATO did in the past. They surely did.
But today is about that Russia is attacking Ukraine. Nothing more.
Stop to deviate!
Nobody who has a single braincell will pity Russia for that.
I acknowledge you carefully reproduced the "Neo-Nazi" fairy tale of the Russian propaganda, but you forget that those Russian "freedom fighters" in the Donbass needed BUK/SA-11 surface-to-air missile to defend against purpoted Neo-Nazis on the ground (!!) and because those heroes were too drunk and/or too stupid to operate their advanced weapon system they need for Nazis on the ground, they shot down MH17 and killed 300 innocent people.
Oh well and the Krim invasion was also aaaaall provoked by the West.

Dude, I have nothing against Russians, absolutely not. I got a lot of Russian friends.
But your government really fucked up!
Nobody forced them to do this operation.

We will speak about NATO when they fuck up like they did in Irak.

But now we speak about Russia!
Because now your government is the aggressor.
Nobody else.

Я уже понял, что Вы не хотите думать собственной головой, и вам нет смысла что-либо объяснять. Все свое мнение Вы черпаете из ваших ангажированных источников информации и не пользуясь альтернативными. Не рассматриваете ситуацию объектино и непредвзято, даже из уважения к самому себе. Не быть обманутым и знать правду. А я думаю, что просто и не хотите этого делать. Вам просто нравиться думать так. Я уже Вам говорил, я не призываю Вас верить российским СМИ, а просто если бы Вы считали себя умным человек, и не хотели бы быть "лохом", как у нас говорят, Вы бы более объективно взглянули на все эти вещи.
А на счет самолета MH-17, вы еще вспомните меня. Я вам обещаю, что вы узнаете правду, кто на самом деле его сбил. И эта правда будет явно не та, что вы думаете. Но я хочу чтобы вы со временем узнали это из своих СМИ. Правда рано или поздно выйдет на свет, как "пробирка Пауэлла", "снос башен близнецов и надуманный вход в Афганистан", "якобы диктатор Каддафи и уничтожение Ливии". Вся ваша ложь еще сплывет, и мне будет очень жаль лично Вас, и таких же как Вы, что Вас используют как безмозглого обывателя...

I have already understood that you do not want to think with your own head, and there is no point in explaining anything to you. You draw all your opinion from your biased sources of information and without using alternative ones. Do not view the situation objectively and without prejudice, even out of respect for yourself. Don't be deceived and know the truth. And I think you just don't want to do it. You just like to think like that. I already told you, I do not urge you to believe the Russian media, but simply if you considered yourself a smart person and would not want to be a "loh", as we say, you would take a more objective look at all these things.
As for the MH-17 aircraft, you still remember me. I promise you that you will find out the truth about who really shot him down. And this truth will obviously not be what you think. But I want you to learn this from your media over time. The truth will sooner or later come to light, like "Powell's test tube", "the demolition of the twin towers and a far-fetched entrance to Afghanistan", "allegedly the dictator Gaddafi and the destruction of Libya." All your lies will still come out, and I will be very sorry for you personally, and for people like you that you are being used as a brainless layman ...

Eintracht wrote: ↑

Sat Feb 26, 2022 8:58 pm

You can bet your testicles that I have donated!

Respect for what you did, bravo

Eintracht wrote: ↑

Sat Feb 26, 2022 9:34 pm

Aaah, milster has charged his prepaid card again to surf the internet! You got 59 minutes left, have fun, don't feel pressed to answer me, otherwise it will be quite a hurry to squeeze the forum visit, check of your favorite Telegram groups AND a wank into this short timeframe.

Is that why you are here 24-7? At least I have time to wank.

Germany will offer 500 rocket-launcher to Ukraine

I think the people don't really realise what is the truth on behind all this ...

If Putin really wanted take Ukrain, he will have set it up in one or two days as he did in Crimea.

It's not with 200 000 man you take the control of 600 000 Km2 country with 40 million people. He has nearly 2000 planes and could make this country in fire in 2 minutes if he wants without much efforts.

But yesterday nearly nobody has pay attention about this :
The Russian opposition newspaper refuses to "consider Ukraine as an enemy and the Ukrainian language as the language of an enemy."
The symbol is extremely strong. The day after the start of the invasion of Ukraine by the Russian army, which continues this Friday with fighting in several cities of the country including Kiev, its capital, the Russian newspaper Novaya Gazeta takes a clear position against the conflict.

"RUSSIA. BOMBARDED. UKRAINE", can we read on its front page, the illustration of which is a simple black background. Below, two texts coexist under this shocking title, one in Russian, the other in Ukrainian.


I think this article will have never been out if Putin himself did not want the UKR people feel he doesn't want any civil to die.

It will be good sometime people learn from history and see until may 2013 there wasn't any problem between Russia and Ukrain but the day they started to say they will try enter European community and also let Nato have some bases in the country it was clear the big bear will never accept it.
Ukrain should be like finland and peace will have never been broken ...

PW

PIERRE WOODMAN wrote: ↑

Sun Feb 27, 2022 3:45 am

Ukrain should be like finland and peace will have never been broken ...

PW

There is no excuse in the world to pardon what Putin has done!!!

Pierre, but you are wrong and illogical in many areas.

PIERRE WOODMAN wrote: ↑

Sun Feb 27, 2022 3:45 am

I think the people don't really realise what is the truth on behind all this ...

If Putin really wanted take Ukrain, he will have set it up in one or two days as he did in Crimea.

It's not with 200 000 man you take the control of 600 000 Km2 country with 40 million people. He has nearly 2000 planes and could make this country in fire in 2 minutes if he wants without much efforts.

- First Ukraine itself is a big country you don´t take in two days like the small area of Crimea. Also the Ukraine now is much better prepared than it was a few years ago.
- Also you statement is wrong that Crimea was captured in two days. It was exactly 11 days that they needed for that.
- Second in an attacking conflict you never put you whole forces into an attack but only the amount you expect to need to reach a certain goal (e.g. the capturing of Kiev).
- The Putin has not 2.000 planes at all. The state of the russian airforce is not as it was during the cold war. of the 2.000 planes probably 30-40 Percent are in a non flyable condition.
--> So your conclusion is not feasible.

PIERRE WOODMAN wrote: ↑

Sun Feb 27, 2022 3:45 am

I think this article will have never been out if Putin himself did not want the UKR people feel he doesn't want any civil to die.

There is no logical connection in your statement at all.
First you say an opposition newspaper would not have written this article if it wasn't Putins opinion? With that you state that Putin is a dictator whom even opposition newspaper do not want to interfere with ... that makes no sense at all. Writing an article like that is the JOB of opposition newspapers. Thats why they are opposition. If the official propaganda channels like RT or else would communicate like this you would be right, but they are in full-on war mode.
--> Also no feasible conclusion

PIERRE WOODMAN wrote: ↑

Sun Feb 27, 2022 3:45 am

It will be good sometime people learn from history and see until may 2013 there wasn't any problem between Russia and Ukrain but the day they started to say they will try enter European community and also let Nato have some bases in the country it was clear the big bear will never accept it.
Ukrain should be like finland and peace will have never been broken ...

This part is also wrong.
First Ukraine has a long history in which Russia tried to install Russian friendly president that goes far beyond 2013. Russia-friendly presidents like Kuchma and Yanukovich were heavily supported, Russia critical presidents like Yuschenko wer ... well he was poisoned, remember? Guess by whom ....
The history of Russian involvement has been long, and exactly this involvement has led that the people of Ukraine wanted to become a second Belorus so the society oriented more to the west.

And Ukraine is a sovereign country. If Russia does not offer them a good alternative to the West but just the dictatorship of an Ex KGB agent with wiener issues (some of you here so adore) well, dont be surprised that the society is not keen on becoming Belorus 2. And if Ukraine wants to join the EU or the NATO it has any right.

I think it is quite irritating that you basically state a quite cynical "Its their own fault" and still did not write one sentence of compassion for the Ukraine people.