RUSSIA - UKRAINE 2022 CONFLICT

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PIERRE WOODMAN wrote:
Sat May 07, 2022 8:21 am
Spiderdog stp n’insulte pas les gens ici et évite en plus de dire des choses fausses !!!

https://www.latribune.fr/economie/inter ... 13014.html



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Je n'avais l'intention d'insulter personne , mais j'ai constaté qu'il manquait totalement de respect aux gens qui n'avaient pas son opinion et qu'il insultaient tout ceux qui n'étaient pas pro slave ou avaient une piètre opinion du phénomène de "Nation" ! De plus i n'y connaît rien en économie et instille sa propagande , il insulte des millions de citoyens qui ne sont pas Russes , donc majoritaires sur la planète , il refuse d'admettre les réalité géopolitiques et j'en passe !
Pour ce qui est des USA , dsl mais les Russes ne sont pas dans les principaux clients américains , j'ignorais même si c'est infime que les USA avaient besoin du Pétrole Russe , surtout qu'ils sont très con car le Canada au dessus d'eux contient une grosse quantité d'hydrocarbures transformable , donc il faut être con pour acheter a son adversaire politique , mai on est pas à ça prêt , la connerie économique des américain n'a pas de limites , elle peut passer du génial quand ils ont des entreprises hautement technologiques , à la pire connerie quand ils refusent d'évoluer ! C'est vraiment le pays des contraste !
Les principaux fournisseurs des USA restent la Chine 25 % , le Mexique 14 % , le Canada 13 % , le Japon 7% , l'Allemagne 6 % , donc le poids Russe n'est pas bien lourd là bas !

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la connerie économique des américain n'a pas de limites , elle peut passer du génial quand ils ont des entreprises hautement technologiques , à la pire connerie quand ils refusent d'évoluer !
Tout à fait d'accord avec toi sauf que 100 000 barils jour acheté à Poutine par les USA ( avec des pointes à 148 000 ) ca fait pas mal de milliard donné à un "ennemi" pendant que les européens en prennent plein la gueule.

Et regarde ça :

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et ça :

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Je ne suis pas certain que les embargos etc ne servent pas au final les intérets des Russes mais c'est pas BFM qui va le dire !!!
:lol: :lol: :lol:

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PIERRE WOODMAN wrote:
Sat May 07, 2022 5:42 pm
Honestly more the time goes less I understand this war but more I see people sad in Europe of the situation !!!

Putin will not have any "victory" for his May 8 "party" and after nearly 3 months of bullshit sanctions on Russia having hurted more europeans than Russians, this war is not finish.

It's a very crazy situation and when I see USA and RUSSIA still have secret business together I wonder who is the turkey been stuff in this story !!!
At first UKRAINE obviously but then probably EUROPE ... :( :( :(

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For my part, here is how I see the situation.
The Russian Army is in no hurry and with a very limited contingent of troops, plus the Dombass militia soldiers, is methodically and confidently, but not hurriedly, to minimize its losses and losses among civilians, taking apart the Dombass grouping of Ukrainian troops. In Ukraine itself, the third wave of mobilization into the army has already taken place, and reservists and people from the so-called territorial defense, i.e. actually ordinary people who were given a machine gun in their hands, are being sent to fight in Dombass. According to all sources, the Ukrainian army has recently suffered enormous losses in manpower, fuel and weapons. According to interviews with captured Ukrainian soldiers, they hate Zelensky, and captured fighters of neo-Nazi military formations directly say that if possible they will "hang Zelensky and others by the balls" for being thrown into the "meat grinder" in Mariupol and Dombass and for not providing any assistance in the de-blockade of Mariupol. The Russian Air Force and Navy are methodically destroying with high-precision weapons almost all deliveries of foreign military equipment and ammunition, destroying communication routes for the delivery of foreign weapons and warehouses.
On the territories already occupied by the Russian Army, new administrations are working and normal life is being established. People from these territories are not going back to Ukraine under any circumstances.
What will happen next, no one knows yet, I think in full even the Russian leadership. In fact, Russia only needs to liberate the Dombass and southeastern territories of Ukraine. Russia doesn't need the territories of western Ukraine. Why take economically impoverished territories as a burden. If the united West had not pumped Ukraine with weapons and pushed its puppet Zelensky to war until the last Ukrainian, then after the liberation of Dombass and the destruction of neo-Nazi formations, the special operation would already be over. And given the current situation, no one in the expert community can give an accurate and definite prediction about when it will all be over in Ukraine. My personal prediction is that Ukraine will most likely be divided, and the main initiator of this will not even be Russia, but the countries of Eastern Europe, who will want to take parts of Western Ukraine "on the sly". Poland already wants to introduce its troops into Western Ukraine. In general, it will be funny to look at this in the future. Now Poland is "fraternizing" with Ukraine in every possible way, but then it will denazify it itself.)))) Or do you think that Poles will forgive the Bandera massacre in Volyn?) In general, the fate of Ukraine is not enviable, and unfortunately they are largely to blame.

In Russia the situation is more or less stable. Work is now under way at a rapid pace to set up production chains and replace those that have left the Russian market. The ruble is strengthening a lot. The ruble is now being made an investment ruble. Huge funds are being invested in the construction of new production facilities in Russia and an import substitution program is being intensively carried out. There are problems, of course, but most likely they will be solved. Prices have risen slightly, but not critically. The Russian government is now working in constant contact with the expert community and many ideas are already being implemented and financed. Also, Russia is not trying to introduce any counter-sanctions that will harm the Russian economy. The sale of energy resources continues, with some EU countries paying for it in rubles.

As for the U.S., the Biden administration and some "hawks" on Capitol Hill are trying to pit everyone in the world against Russia. Moreover, they themselves are afraid to intervene in an outright military confrontation, but they are trying by all means to involve other countries in a military confrontation with Russia, and they have decided to destroy Ukraine altogether. The U.S. economy itself is rapidly sliding into recession. Uncontrolled printing of dollars and constant blackmailing of other countries of the world with sanctions leads to a sharp discredit of the U.S. currency and American economic policy. Ordinary Americans have little interest in the situation in Ukraine, and they do not understand why the U.S., which already has enormous economic problems, is investing huge money in distant Ukraine. And the Biden administration's excuse that Putin is to blame for the U.S. economy's problems does not satisfy Americans. Biden's rating has fallen to a record level in the history of American presidents.
Nevertheless, American interests have always come first for the United States. Despite the sanctions, they continue to buy Russian oil and nuclear fuel for nuclear power plants, fertilizers, titanium for aircraft building. The American military-industrial complex, is experiencing a boom, as it usually did when the Americans, unleashed a war somewhere in the world. And the American military-industrial complex is the main lobbyist of the U.S. political elite. The logical chain of events is evident.

As for the European Union, there is no need to comment. :roll:
The world's political community has never seen such a stupid and flawed policy, first and foremost for itself.
Actually, what is there to be surprised about, when practically all political elite of European countries are puppets of the USA, and are ready, in favor of interests of "American gangster", to ruin their economy by their absurd actions and to spit on interests of their own citizens.
Paradoxically, thanks to some rogue politicians in the EU, such as Orban, who still block absolutely idiotic decisions on the EU level, the Europeans should thank them because they keep this stupid organization afloat for now.
I will not even describe it further, it deserves a separate psychiatric analysis.

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PIERRE WOODMAN wrote:
Sat May 07, 2022 7:12 pm
la connerie économique des américain n'a pas de limites , elle peut passer du génial quand ils ont des entreprises hautement technologiques , à la pire connerie quand ils refusent d'évoluer !
Tout à fait d'accord avec toi sauf que 100 000 barils jour acheté à Poutine par les USA ( avec des pointes à 148 000 ) ca fait pas mal de milliard donné à un "ennemi" pendant que les européens en prennent plein la gueule.

Et regarde ça :


Capture d’écran 2022-05-07 à 21.07.49.png


et ça :


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Je ne suis pas certain que les embargos etc ne servent pas au final les intérets des Russes mais c'est pas BFM qui va le dire !!!
:lol: :lol: :lol:

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Oui , la connerie n'a pas de limites et quand tu entends ces cons qui te disent qu'il faut développer le futur , protéger la planète et arrêter les hydrocarbure et les mecs continuent dans leur connerie au lieu de développer : La fusion nucléaire , l'hydrogène , la matière noire , l'antimatière ... Les mecs continuent sur leurs vieux reflexes cro magnon et ne règlent aucun problèmes , c'est pas demain la veille que la civilisation ressemblera à la civilisation !

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Spiderdog wrote:
Sat May 07, 2022 6:20 pm
Pour ce qui est des USA , dsl mais les Russes ne sont pas dans les principaux clients américains , j'ignorais même si c'est infime que les USA avaient besoin du Pétrole Russe , surtout qu'ils sont très con car le Canada au dessus d'eux contient une grosse quantité d'hydrocarbures transformable , donc il faut être con pour acheter a son adversaire politique , mai on est pas à ça prêt , la connerie économique des américain n'a pas de limites , elle peut passer du génial quand ils ont des entreprises hautement technologiques , à la pire connerie quand ils refusent d'évoluer ! C'est vraiment le pays des contraste !
Les principaux fournisseurs des USA restent la Chine 25 % , le Mexique 14 % , le Canada 13 % , le Japon 7% , l'Allemagne 6 % , donc le poids Russe n'est pas bien lourd là bas !
It was not a question of how much oil Russia supplies to the U.S. market, and what percentage of the U.S. energy market this is.
It was about the fact that when the U.S. is loudly declaring an economic war on Russia, forbidding Europe to buy energy resources from Russia, imposing sanctions, they themselves "secretly" buy this oil and Pierre is logically right to explain to you this hypocrisy of the U.S.!
If, apart from your irrepressible anger and hatred for everyone (non-Chinese!), you would turn on your brain, you would understand what we are talking about. But unfortunately, we ask a lot of you. :roll:

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Je comprends c'est pourquoi je réponds qu'ils sont débiles !

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So at least for once 3 of us agree at same time on one thing !!!

Great progress ... YEAH !!! :lol: :lol: :lol:

But Vitaly there one thing I disagree with you, I can't believe a quarter of second Putin did not expected a better result for the May 8 and tomorrow what ever he will say on the red square, I am sure it will not be what he was thinking end of February he will say now ...

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PIERRE WOODMAN wrote:
Sat May 07, 2022 9:28 pm
So at least for once 3 of us agree at same time on one thing !!!

Great progress ... YEAH !!! :lol: :lol: :lol:

But Vitaly there one thing I disagree with you, I can't believe a quarter of second Putin did not expected a better result for the May 8 and tomorrow what ever he will say on the red square, I am sure it will not be what he was thinking end of February he will say now ...

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Well, you can't look inside Putin's head! We both don't know what he was planning there. Only to plan such serious issues directly to some date, I think, is childish, and not like a very experienced Putin. On this point, I would disagree. There has been a huge amount of speculation about the timing of the special operation, both from the Russian expert community and the world community, and everyone was chattering whatever they could think of. Don't forget that the Ukrainian army has been methodically trained, financed and armed for the last 8 years. By many estimates, it was the third or even the second army in Europe, after the Russian and French armies. All the more so because they are fighting on their own territory and are on constant defense. They have never gone into serious counteroffensive operations, not counting small sorties and ambushes on supply convoys. They are constantly in their heavily fortified positions in population centers. I have said before, lest Zelensky and his Western handlers lie now, Ukraine has been purposefully prepared for war in Dombass and Crimea, and that is actually with Russia! All the defensive positions of the Ukrainian troops in Dombass, are very carefully fortified. Ukraine is assisted by the entire NATO bloc!!! And the Russian contingent of troops involved in the special operation is very limited, from 15% to 20% of the entire Russian Army. Russia cannot bare all of its military districts to the threat of war with the US and NATO.
The fact that there may have been some miscalculations in the planning and conduct of the special operation is certainly quite possible. It is impossible to calculate and plan everything.
If you are interested in my opinion, I will say this frankly, but I emphasize that this is my subjective opinion, based on my knowledge of the situation, the territory of Ukraine, many Russian military personnel involved in the operation, as well as many Ukrainians. But I have no information from the General Staff of the Russian Army and the Russian leadership, which means I could well be wrong.
In my opinion, it was a mistake to take some liberties with the Russian forward units in the very first days of the special operation. Perhaps there was a calculation for a less intensive resistance of the Ukrainian army. It was in the very first days that the Russian Army suffered the main losses, because the reconnaissance, forward, small groups of soldiers were ambushed in the cities of Kharkiv and other cities. After that, the tactics of the Russian Army changed dramatically and despite being a party to the attack, Russian military losses are many times lower, and lately dozens of times lower, than Ukrainian losses. Even American military analysts have stated that in Ukraine, Russia is fighting "with one hand tied behind its back in a gentlemanly fashion." And in many ways they were right. The Americans could not understand why Russia did not organize massive bombardment of cities and AFU positions, why they did not strike the barracks of Ukrainian troops on the first day of the war, why they did not destroy bridges, power plants, communication and television points, administrative buildings and other vital infrastructure of Ukraine. And all because not all, but many of them absolutely do not understand the psychology of the logic of this war in Ukraine. They are used to demolishing entire cities to ashes by air and missile attacks, and then entering the territory of the state, stepping over the corpses of women and children. Russia does not do that in Ukraine!!! And don't fall for these numerous Ukrainian fakes about the alleged crimes of the Russian Army against civilians. It's all lies!!! Of course there are casualties among ordinary people, they cannot be avoided, there is a war going on. But it is more the fault of those who cover themselves with them and do not allow them to evacuate from the places of military action. In general, civilian casualties in Ukraine, compared to other military conflicts of the last decades, are very small. But any interrupted life is a tragedy and war is bad.
I will only note one thing. I do not want to frighten the Europeans in any way, and God forbid if it comes to this, but Russia will not be so ceremonious in relation to them, and I think you understand why. Think about it.

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And don't fall for these numerous Ukrainian fakes about the alleged crimes of the Russian Army against civilians. It's all lies!!!
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