PIERRE WOODMAN wrote: ↑

Thu Sep 26, 2024 6:12 am

At same time Russia failed again with the test of Satan2 bomb
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/RS-28_Sarmat
It’s a humiliation once again after the test simply erased the base with a 400 m crater !!
PW

I don't want to comment on this situation in detail yet, because there is no information from the Russian Ministry of Defense. And the Western sources of information from which you draw information are always lying.
At the Plesetsk Cosmodrome (Russia), various launches and tests are constantly taking place, and there is always a possibility that some emergency situations may occur. Therefore, your definition of “humiliation” is absolutely inappropriate, because in the field of space technology, there is always room for various nuances, some of which cannot be calculated 100%. The U.S., constantly, fail with the testing of their hypersonic weapons, I about European countries, such as France, I do not speak at all....
But, as for the Sarmat missile (Satan-2), it has long been thoroughly tested and adopted for service, respectively, successfully passed the tests. Therefore, the information given out by the Western media that it was the Sarmat missile that exploded, and not something else, is most likely a wishful thinking....

MVitaly5 wrote: ↑

Wed Sep 25, 2024 6:19 pm

Bobby wrote: ↑

Wed Sep 25, 2024 4:51 pm

Quickest way to peace would be if the West "donates" 100 nukes to Ukraine, with no restrictions attached,,,, should make Putin reconsider his approach to peace negotiations....

I'm always amused by such “militant” civilians....
Where are you going to hide at this time? Have you ordered your coffin yet?
Of course, it is funny to hear such proposals, to threaten with nuclear weapons a power that has more nuclear warheads than all NATO countries combined, and has the most technologically advanced, hypersonic means of delivery of such weapons, which cannot be intercepted by any means of air defense.
Who can tell me what's in that man's head? Who put those thoughts in his head? Some kind of stupid self-confidence in his own safety. This is an answer to the question to those people who think that most people realize the danger of nuclear war, but they do not understand why it is escalating. In my opinion, after such a statement, the answer is obvious that humanity will end with people like the author of the post.

Nothing to hide here.....

I am a German and really pissed with the half assed politics of the West in regards to Ukraine.

There should be 2 Options for the West:

1) To stay out of it and have the Ukraine and Russia sort it out between them, means Russia wins quickly.

2) To get involved: means the Nato looks at the situation and then the West provides what is needed by the Ukraine to "win" - outcome highly unsure.

What is happening instead:

The West keeps the conflict and the loss of lives of Ukrainian soldier going on forever and is always worried what Mr Putin might think about the support provided by the West and by now the support of the West is already decreasing and at the end of the day Putin will likely win and the involvement of West only increased the loss of live and suffering for Ukrainians in the meantime........

If the West thinks the Ukrainian cause is worth fighting for, the West should be happy to take the risk of dying for it too....

Have a good day

Bobby
The fact is that the West would very much like to destroy Russia, or, at the very least, put it under total control and appropriate its colossal resources. This is the usual historical, colonial, robbery policy of the West, and there is nothing surprising in it.
But they themselves do not want to die, so they brought to power in Ukraine, a criminal and puppet political regime, and delegated the “right to die” to the Ukrainians, for the interests of the West!
If Russia did not have nuclear weapons, NATO would have started a military aggression against Russia long ago, and would justify it with its media empire, under various hypocritical and false slogans like “For Democracy” or “We are against dictators!” and other such nonsense. And you would rejoice and justify the murder of Russian people. All the same, as it was with Yugoslavia, Iraq, Syria, Libya, Afghanistan, etc. The scenario does not change - shake a fake test tube and then destroy the state of Iraq by executing the legitimate leader of that country.
The only problem is that Ukrainians and mercenaries are running out in Ukraine, and the West's goal has not been achieved. And they don't want to retreat and admit defeat. The West really wants to play poker and bluff further, increasing the stakes to see how much Russia will tolerate it. Only, they are very afraid that they will be hit very hard in return. That is why there are more and more risks for humanity, and escalation is building up. And the main risk is that the Western politicians and mass media give birth to false feelings of security in their people!!!
And the main problem that no one takes into account. People's psychology is changing! Now in the West, everything is aimed at making an “enemy image” out of Russia, so that later it would be easier to send Europeans to their deaths and justify war crimes and more. I must say that this is a symmetrical reaction. And in Russia soon, no one will feel sorry for you at all. If the Ukrainians were initially fought in a very gentle way, no one will be so ceremonious with you and no one will feel sorry for you.

Just some general remarks:

There is a saying: One mans freedom fighter is another mans terrorists

So I find it kind of boring to argue who is right or who is wrong in a conflict, depends all on personal viewpoints and preferences......

Most simple people just want to live in peace and get along with their lives....

War is part of human nature for a long time and will continue to be.........

Maybe the next kind of warfare will be alike to Covid. Highly targeted infections that will kill only people in a certain region, no shots need to fired and no infrastructure gets damaged.....

Just saying

War is part of human nature for a long time and will continue to be.........

Unfortunately you are right ... but what I don't understand is why so many people against the war do nothing to stop it and at contrario follow the bad ones like little sheeps !!!

I have had a small fight last month in my car with Chloe Amour saying to me USA must save Ukraine because it's part of european union and NATO !!! She even showed me on the net various "serious" site saying that thing in America.
How do you want this world to be fine when there are lies every seconds and people ready to trust it ???

Even after I showed CLEARLY that Ukrain is not part of NATO, Chloe doesn't want to admit and was still showing me her "evidences" I was wrong ...
So I stopped the discussion and said "yes OK as you want" ...
and it's same with various friends I have who accuse me to be "pro russians" when I only show them true fact about the war.
I counted 19 trustable medias saying Merkel said the accord of Minsk was just a way to give time to Ukraine ...
But a top friend ( I am sure he will read it ) send me the conversation where she said that but tell me she never said that !!! and tell me I do Russian propagande if I invite people to watch "Ukrain on fire" in order understand better why this war has started !!!

So yes not simple to just try have an objective opinion when most others doesn't want accept any possibility the things could be different than most medias are saying !!!

PW

PIERRE WOODMAN wrote: ↑

Fri Sep 27, 2024 4:22 pm

I have had a small fight last month in my car with Chloe Amour saying to me USA must save Ukraine because it's part of european union and NATO !!! She even showed me on the net various "serious" site saying that thing in America.
How do you want this world to be fine when there are lies every seconds and people ready to trust it ???

Even after I showed CLEARLY that Ukrain is not part of NATO, Chloe doesn't want to admit and was still showing me her "evidences" I was wrong ...

PW

I guess you should've shown her the official NATO homepage, or did you?

PIERRE WOODMAN wrote: ↑

Fri Sep 27, 2024 4:22 pm

War is part of human nature for a long time and will continue to be.........

Unfortunately you are right ... but what I don't understand is why so many people against the war do nothing to stop it and at contrario follow the bad ones like little sheeps !!!

I have had a small fight last month in my car with Chloe Amour saying to me USA must save Ukraine because it's part of european union and NATO !!! She even showed me on the net various "serious" site saying that thing in America.
How do you want this world to be fine when there are lies every seconds and people ready to trust it ???

Even after I showed CLEARLY that Ukrain is not part of NATO, Chloe doesn't want to admit and was still showing me her "evidences" I was wrong ...
So I stopped the discussion and said "yes OK as you want" ...
and it's same with various friends I have who accuse me to be "pro russians" when I only show them true fact about the war.
I counted 19 trustable medias saying Merkel said the accord of Minsk was just a way to give time to Ukraine ...
But a top friend ( I am sure he will read it ) send me the conversation where she said that but tell me she never said that !!! and tell me I do Russian propagande if I invite people to watch "Ukrain on fire" in order understand better why this war has started !!!

So yes not simple to just try have an objective opinion when most others doesn't want accept any possibility the things could be different than most medias are saying !!!

PW

What you could try is :

Ask the person you have a disgreement with: "How could I convince you that your view is wrong ? "

If the person answers there is no way for you to change the view, that means you can stop trying straightaway, all further conversation is a waste of time,,,,

Yes right but I am someone who always like speak with people and try build somethiong else than just a simple "yes" or "no" !!!

I guess you should've shown her the official NATO homepage, or did you?

What you think ???
Already when you read that it should be clear : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russo-Ukr ... berwarfare.

but the best is that : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_St ... of_Ukraine

the red part is what she showed me :


So with that you can understand why most american think it's normal that USA take part of this war ...

PW

PIERRE WOODMAN wrote: ↑

Fri Sep 27, 2024 4:22 pm

War is part of human nature for a long time and will continue to be.........

Unfortunately you are right ... but what I don't understand is why so many people against the war do nothing to stop it and at contrario follow the bad ones like little sheeps !!!

Tu parles de qui, des politiques ou des gens ?

Les gens !!!
Ils sont de plus en plus incroyables ...
Il suffit de les voir gueuler contre telle ou telle personnalité politique, mettre en branle tout un pays puis ensuite revoter pour lui. Donc quand il s'agit de sujet ultra sensible comme une prise de position sur une guerre c'est encore pire !!!
Et c'est comme ça partout ...

En tout cas celui là il semble avoir des couilles, reste à savoir si elle vont rester attachés à son ventre aprés ça :
https://www.lindependant.fr/2024/09/26/ ... 220683.php


PW