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I agree Trump is "special" and the Capitol attack was not something good but he is the only US president who never did a war and he promissed stop this one. You should at least support this action or you enjoy what we have now ???
I want this war to end up and europe to be back in a normal situation. That's all ...
I don't know where you live and how much money you do every month El Major but it seems you don't really care about the financial situation of Europe ...

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You ak me if I enjoy the situation now but still 2 years into the war you still dont seem to understand that if a country invades another country thats the country thats is to blame. I blame Russia if Russia invades Ukraine. I blame USA if USA invades Iraq. You blame USA and Europe if Russia invades Ukraine. Unlike you i did not belive the nazi lies like you did when the war started. You did not critisize Russia when they invaded and you ask me if I like the situastion. I think you should look at yourself first.

The financial situation in Europe would better if Russia went back to their own country yes. Not letting fascist regimes change international regognized borders with brute force killing tens of thousands of pepole is more important though. The economy in Russia and Europe would be a lot better with peace so thats obviously what I hope for.

Trump also promised al lot of things and I have no idea why you think he is going to stop this war. You like that he might stop all US weapn support for Ukraine but I have never seen you talk about the massive weapons support Russia gets from angel counitres Iran and North Korea so you seem to want Russia to run over Ukraine by massacre? Europe is still supporting Ukraine and the majority in the US also supports Ukraine.

The only thing we agree on in this is that we want this war to end yesterday and thats the most important thing I guess.

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PIERRE WOODMAN wrote:
Tue Apr 02, 2024 3:53 am
I agree Trump is "special" and the Capitol is not something great but he is the only US president who never did a war and he promissed stop this one. You should at least support this action or you enjoy what we have now ???
I want this war to end up and europe to be back in a normal situation. That's all ...
I don't know where you live and how much money you do every month El Major but it seems you don't really care about the financial situation of Europe ...

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Because you are asking the answers to these questions from the El Pablos that Biden and his Democratic Party are now letting in droves across the US border. Who are then placed under bridges, in mud in tent cities all over America. And this is done by the democratic party in order to gain loyalty from the non-indigenous population of the USA both in the present and in the future, when all those who arrive will be given US passports. You ask about Europe, they don't care what happens to the US, what the hell is Europe. They didn't build it all centuries before, and the fact that the US is on the brink of civil war, it doesn't bother them. What they do care about is that a small group of citizens (some of whom died) went to the Capitol, angry at this state of affairs. But now there is a judicial investigation of a major rival presidential candidate, when there is no documented evidence that he urged his supporters to storm the Capitol. But there is plenty of evidence of opaque vote-by-mail voting in the 2020 election, with "dead souls" voting, in a country that teaches democracy to everyone in the world, only in this country itself, this "democracy" is long gone, and never has been. And I assure you, if Trump wins, these El Pablos will not only storm the Capitol, I have my doubts that Trump will even live to see the election. Count how many Presidents and Presidential candidates have been assassinated in US history: A. Lincoln, D.A. Garfield, W. McConley, D. Kennedy, R. Kennedy, and many others.
But do these El Pablos care about the fact that all these democratic clans: Clintons, Obamas, Bidens, organized and provoked a lot of military conflicts around the world, that they created and fennonized terrorists: Al-Qaeda, ISIS, Hamas, for their situational needs, organize acts of international terrorism, blowing up gas pipelines, keep all European leaders on a leash, while robbing Europe. Do you think that's all they care about? You should ask such answers from people who understand and know something.

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Why Europe, should Care about an "intern/domestic" problèm, in USA ? Europe will Care if an extern country will atrack them, as USA cared during WW2 and liberated France from nazis

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Why Europe, should Care about an "intern/domestic" problèm, in USA ?
So why europe should care about Ukrain then if we follow your way of thinking ???
Ukrain is not an european country ... and we again fall in same stupid discussion about why this was should count more than any other war in the world ??? Who pay attention about Ethiopy or even Palestinians etc ...
Once again it's obvious there are specifics interest from occident in the actual situation in Ukrain ...
One can only wonder how vile, petty, corrupt and politicized these international sports officials are, and most importantly so stupid and talkative that not the first official is caught as an idiot for exposing the pranksters....
Nothing new unfortunately !!!

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Re: Politique Française

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PIERRE WOODMAN wrote:
Tue Apr 02, 2024 5:28 pm
Why Europe, should Care about an "intern/domestic" problèm, in USA ?
So why europe should care about Ukrain then if we follow your way of thinking ???
Ukrain is not an european country ... and we again fall in same stupid discussion about why this was should count more than any other war in the world ??? Who pay attention about Ethiopy or even Palestinians etc ...
Once again it's obvious there are specifics interest from occident in the actual situation in Ukrain ...
One can only wonder how vile, petty, corrupt and politicized these international sports officials are, and most importantly so stupid and talkative that not the first official is caught as an idiot for exposing the pranksters....
Nothing new unfortunately !!!

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Pretty sure the number of refugees from Ukraine is something that is making a difference in a lot of european countries as the number is massive . You cant compare that to conflicts futher away obvioulsy . And several counitres that have been occupied previosuly like Poland , the baltic states etc are more worried by russian agression than conflicts in Africa. Thats simple logic

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PIERRE WOODMAN wrote:
Tue Apr 02, 2024 5:28 pm
Why Europe, should Care about an "intern/domestic" problèm, in USA ?
So why europe should care about Ukrain then if we follow your way of thinking ???
Bah parcque c'est un pays qui se fait attaquer par un autre, beaucoup plus grand et puissant que lui, c'est humain de vouloir aider, et je le dis tout de suite, avant qu'on me tombe dessus une nouvelle fois, je suis simple spectateur, comme vous tous ici, de ce qui se passe ici, je le dis parcque parfois on m'agresse, comme si c'était moi qui décidait des trucs... Je comprends que l'Europe soit intervenu, tu vois un petit dans une cours de récré se faire défoncer par un groupe de balèze, t'as envi d'intervenir, tu vois un mec en train de crever sur la route,, tu t'arrête, tu lui demande pas ses papiers Schengen ou s'il est de l'UE, et oui, y'a d'autres pays où l'Europe ne s'en mêle pas, alors que y aurait de quoi aussi, je suis d'accord, mais bon, là elle l'a fait pour l'Ukraine, c'est peut-être pas la peine non plus, de chier une pendule pour ça, mais bon...

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Jean wrote:
Tue Apr 02, 2024 6:49 pm
PIERRE WOODMAN wrote:
Tue Apr 02, 2024 5:28 pm
Why Europe, should Care about an "intern/domestic" problèm, in USA ?
So why europe should care about Ukrain then if we follow your way of thinking ???
Bah parcque c'est un pays qui se fait attaquer par un autre, beaucoup plus grand et puissant que lui, c'est humain de vouloir aider, et je le dis tout de suite, avant qu'on me tombe dessus une nouvelle fois, je suis simple spectateur, comme vous tous ici, de ce qui se passe ici, je le dis parcque parfois on m'agresse, comme si c'était moi qui décidait des trucs... Je comprends que l'Europe soit intervenu, tu vois un petit dans une cours de récré se faire défoncer par un groupe de balèze, t'as envi d'intervenir, tu vois un mec en train de crever sur la route,, tu t'arrête, tu lui demande pas ses papiers Schengen ou s'il est de l'UE, et oui, y'a d'autres pays où l'Europe ne s'en mêle pas, alors que y aurait de quoi aussi, je suis d'accord, mais bon, là elle l'a fait pour l'Ukraine, c'est peut-être pas la peine non plus, de chier une pendule pour ça, mais bon...
This is because your attention, pity, emotions, and others like you are artificially and purposefully directed to those cases that "need certain persons", and other similar cases are not!!!!
Your opinion and emotions are artificially manipulated, using elementary human emotions for their own selfish purposes. Too bad it doesn't occur to you. In the Gaza Strip, 3 times as many civilians have been killed in two months as in 2 years of war in Ukraine. What, you rush in and don't "stop the hooligans"? Ahhh, you apparently just didn't notice them, no one showed them to you. Why should you shed a heartfelt tear for those you don't have to, right? This is your main problem, your confidence in the freedom of your thoughts and emotions, this is just your illusion and manipulation experiments that are conducted on you. Think about it, if you are still able to do so.....

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Re: Politique Française

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MVitaly5 wrote:
Tue Apr 02, 2024 7:27 pm
Jean wrote:
Tue Apr 02, 2024 6:49 pm
PIERRE WOODMAN wrote:
Tue Apr 02, 2024 5:28 pm


So why europe should care about Ukrain then if we follow your way of thinking ???
Bah parcque c'est un pays qui se fait attaquer par un autre, beaucoup plus grand et puissant que lui, c'est humain de vouloir aider, et je le dis tout de suite, avant qu'on me tombe dessus une nouvelle fois, je suis simple spectateur, comme vous tous ici, de ce qui se passe ici, je le dis parcque parfois on m'agresse, comme si c'était moi qui décidait des trucs... Je comprends que l'Europe soit intervenu, tu vois un petit dans une cours de récré se faire défoncer par un groupe de balèze, t'as envi d'intervenir, tu vois un mec en train de crever sur la route,, tu t'arrête, tu lui demande pas ses papiers Schengen ou s'il est de l'UE, et oui, y'a d'autres pays où l'Europe ne s'en mêle pas, alors que y aurait de quoi aussi, je suis d'accord, mais bon, là elle l'a fait pour l'Ukraine, c'est peut-être pas la peine non plus, de chier une pendule pour ça, mais bon...
This is because your attention, pity, emotions, and others like you are artificially and purposefully directed to those cases that "need certain persons", and other similar cases are not!!!!
Your opinion and emotions are artificially manipulated, using elementary human emotions for their own selfish purposes.
Ok but what do you want ? Many people have their "nature" like this and can't change it, what do you want ? We supress all émotions to people ? We all get "cold piss" and no feelings ? I'm not agressive with you at all, just talking, i understand what you Say, but you can't expect that Worldwide people manage their émotion like you, or think like you, ect

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Re: Politique Française

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Jean wrote:
Tue Apr 02, 2024 7:38 pm
MVitaly5 wrote:
Tue Apr 02, 2024 7:27 pm
Jean wrote:
Tue Apr 02, 2024 6:49 pm


Bah parcque c'est un pays qui se fait attaquer par un autre, beaucoup plus grand et puissant que lui, c'est humain de vouloir aider, et je le dis tout de suite, avant qu'on me tombe dessus une nouvelle fois, je suis simple spectateur, comme vous tous ici, de ce qui se passe ici, je le dis parcque parfois on m'agresse, comme si c'était moi qui décidait des trucs... Je comprends que l'Europe soit intervenu, tu vois un petit dans une cours de récré se faire défoncer par un groupe de balèze, t'as envi d'intervenir, tu vois un mec en train de crever sur la route,, tu t'arrête, tu lui demande pas ses papiers Schengen ou s'il est de l'UE, et oui, y'a d'autres pays où l'Europe ne s'en mêle pas, alors que y aurait de quoi aussi, je suis d'accord, mais bon, là elle l'a fait pour l'Ukraine, c'est peut-être pas la peine non plus, de chier une pendule pour ça, mais bon...
This is because your attention, pity, emotions, and others like you are artificially and purposefully directed to those cases that "need certain persons", and other similar cases are not!!!!
Your opinion and emotions are artificially manipulated, using elementary human emotions for their own selfish purposes.
Ok but what do you want ? Many people have their "nature" like this and can't change it, what do you want ? We supress all émotions to people ? We all get "cold piss" and no feelings ? I'm not agressive with you at all, just talking, i understand what you Say, but you can't expect that Worldwide people manage their émotion like you, or think like you, ect
Emotions, they are inherent and natural to humans, yes. And that's normal. But in some areas of life, emotions may not always contribute to making sober and balanced decisions, for example, in business, politics, military, etc. Emotions in people can also be frank, and can be fake or hypocritical. And the main thing, human emotions can be easily managed and manipulated, and after directing these people for fulfillment of various tasks in interests of the third parties, those who manipulate emotions of others. Using an emotional person, it is possible to artificially create in his understanding an "enemy image", even to turn him into a fanatic, it is possible to excite in him a false sense of guilt, or on the contrary unreasonable self-confidence in his actions and rightness. And many other things...
Any provocative actions, organization of military conflicts, creation and financing of terrorist acts, all this is initially aimed at people's emotions to use them to achieve goals in their own interests. There is a need for an infoprovocation that will strongly influence people's emotions in the "right direction", after which you can do anything you want.
It was:
1). "False genocide of Kosovo Albanians, by Serbs" - result: Bloody NATO aggression on Yugoslavia, collapse of the country, thousands of victims, Serbian leader, died in prison.
2). "Powell's test tube", followed by the destruction of Iraq, hanging of the country's leader. No chemical weapons were ever found. But "found oil", which was transported for free to the US for a long time,
3). "Allegedly 'bad dictator' Gaddafi", result: destruction of a prosperous African country, chaos and civil war, massacre of the country's leader with H. Clinton clapping her hands, watching a bloody man being beaten to death.
4). "Demolition of the twin towers in New York" - the result: illegal invasion of Afghanistan, Americans clapping their hands and seeking revenge thinking they were fighting terrorists, 20 years of occupation, chaos and poverty after the US left the country and betrayal by the US of Afghanistan's political elites who cooperated with the US. During the US occupation of Afghanistan, opium and heroin exports increased hundreds of times. The poppy fields were guarded by US soldiers themselves.
5). "Organizing a coup d'état in Ukraine, bringing anti-Russian and Nazi political forces to power, supplying Ukraine with weapons and genocide of Russians and Ukrainians in Dombass." Result: forced Russia to intervene militarily to protect people, thus creating emotional infoprovocation for people like you to stir up negativity against Russia. Lies and intimidation of EU citizens continue, in order to artificially create an "enemy image" of Russia. This is done in order to more easily justify to the EU population the corpses of military men who will be sent to the war in Ukraine, the economic problems, the deterioration of the standard of living of Europeans, etc.

This is how it is done, and in these template actions, there is nothing new for people who understand all these processes!

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