PIERRE WOODMAN wrote: ↑

Tue Jun 27, 2023 2:14 am

The journalist in France just say bullshit.

Faut pas les faire venir chez toi, si la profession raconte que des conneries...

PIERRE WOODMAN wrote: ↑

Tue Jun 27, 2023 2:14 am

Thank you MVitaly5 for your clear explaination about Wagner. At least I can say now we have a serious vision about what happened while the journalist in France just say bullshit.

I sincerely hope this war will end up. I'm so tired of all the pain it brings everywhere ...

PW

The main objectives of the war are fully achieved, so likely there will be a kind of excuse to stop supporting the Ukraine and then things go its course.

Objective 1 ) Stop the German industry from getting cheap gas from Russia and then competing with US companies.

Now Germans are buying expensive gas from the US and because of higher costs, companies in Germany are considering moving to US now and create jobs there.

Objective 2) Increase defense spending among the NATO members. The US are complaining for years that Europe should pay more for (American) weapons. That is fixed now.

We will see

Bobby wrote: ↑

Tue Jun 27, 2023 10:59 pm

The main objectives of the war are fully achieved

For whom have the goals been met?

Bobby wrote: ↑

Tue Jun 27, 2023 10:59 pm

so likely there will be a kind of excuse to stop supporting the Ukraine and then things go its course.

Support for Ukraine will cease because the Western coalition countries will soon have nothing to support it with.

Bobby wrote: ↑

Tue Jun 27, 2023 10:59 pm

Objective 1 ) Stop the German industry from getting cheap gas from Russia and then competing with US companies.

These are just details, not the main objectives.
The US solved your #1 problem very simply by committing an act of international terrorism by blowing up the North Streams pipelines. Indeed, why should they be afraid when Scholz, or other EU leaders, are ready to blame Satan, but not their American master. I would feel sorry for ordinary Europeans, who have such lowlifes as leaders, but apparently they deserve it...

Bobby wrote: ↑

Tue Jun 27, 2023 10:59 pm

Now Germans are buying expensive gas from the US and because of higher costs, companies in Germany are considering moving to US now and create jobs there.

I said here that this would be the case a few months ago, many people laughed about it. Well, keep laughing...



P.S. The main aims of this war are for the West:
For the United States to wage a global war in Europe and not to participate in it completely, in order to enslave Europe (if anything remains of it), based on the experience of the two world wars. At the same time, they can repair their shaky economy and write off their debts by coming up with another Marshall Plan. Then, after weakening Russia with this war, they will switch over to a confrontation with China. To do this they will use the human meat in turn, starting with Ukraine, then Eastern European countries and then Western Europe.

The objectives for the EU, are the crazy and illusory hopes, under the "cover" of the US, to mob "crush" Russia, seize its resources, realizing their centuries-old dreams and numerous failed attempts, to start a revenge to return themselves to a neocolonial status. But, I have deliberately called these plans illusory, because in the context of global modern warfare, Western and Central Europe would die first; quickly and imperceptibly.

Mvitaly, have you Seen the last news ? Erdogan said that he will talk with Poutine, as Poutine will visit turkey in August, and Erdogan seem ultra confident and sure of himself, when he prétend to be able to "calm" down things between Ukraine/Russia, i don't know what make Erdogan so confident, but that's very impressive, realy, very impressive, as everyone from outside Russia, who tried to "talk with Poutine", until now , always seemed to end up like rabbits who tried to discuss with a Lion, i know Poutine seem to appreciate Erdogan but, all this is still impressive !

Jean wrote: ↑

Sat Jul 08, 2023 1:16 am

Mvitaly, have you Seen the last news ? Erdogan said that he will talk with Poutine, as Poutine will visit turkey in August, and Erdogan seem ultra confident and sure of himself, when he prétend to be able to "calm" down things between Ukraine/Russia, i don't know what make Erdogan so confident, but that's very impressive, realy, very impressive, as everyone from outside Russia, who tried to "talk with Poutine", until now , always seemed to end up like rabbits who tried to discuss with a Lion, i know Poutine seem to appreciate Erdogan but, all this is still impressive !

In my opinion, Erdogan will not be able to do anything in this direction. Yes, and he knows it himself, he just needs to make more publicity on this popular topic. Erdogan portrays himself as a cunning geopolitical player who wants to maneuver between the two opposing sides; the collective West and Russia, using this situation to his geopolitical advantage. On the one hand, he thinks that by not taking sides and continuing to cooperate with Russia, Erdoğan believes that by doing so he has influence over the Russian leadership. On the other hand, he sometimes launches invectives against Russia, thus trying to justify himself to his public that it was not due to Russia's help that he won the presidential elections. In short, it is all a "rat race" and work for the public, nothing more.
I specifically highlighted the opposing sides, namely the collective West led by the US and Russia, because Zelensky does not actually decide anything. He is a complete puppet in the hands of the US. Even if we hypothetically imagine that Zelensky starts kicking up a fuss and tries to start his own game, he will immediately be put in his place. Zelensky's entire family lives in the West, all his financial accounts and real estate are in the West. There is a lot of dirt on him regarding corruption and his drug addiction. Or they will simply kill him, blaming Russia, making him a sacred victim. It will be very easy to do, because all of Zelensky's bodyguards are U.S. and British intelligence services. Zelensky does not trust his own people. Therefore, Zelensky will do everything that his Western patrons tell him to do. And his western patrons don't need to stop the war. They need the Slavs to kill each other. The Americans have nothing left to supply Ukraine with conventional ammunition, so now they will supply cluster munitions, which are banned by all international treaties. Isn't this an escalation of the conflict?
It's senile people like Biden who will bring the world to nuclear war, because he understands that if he loses this war, he and his family are finished. He will lose his election, after which all his family's corrupt ties to the same Ukraine will immediately come to light. And the collective West will lose this war. Even the most idiotic analyst is already talking about it. Because the West does not have the resources to beat Russia even in a conventional war. So they will escalate, overcoming one "red line" after another, until Russia's patience gives way to something more serious, like sending a Poseidon into the Thames.
Going back to Zelensky, he doesn't care about Ukraine and what happens to it next. He does not tie his fate and the fate of his children to Ukraine, because all of his assets are in the West. That is why, at the dictate of the West, he will continue to rake up all the old people from all over Ukraine and throw them into the furnace of this war. At least as long as it benefits his Western masters.
Russia cannot lose this war either, because then it is finished. The people of Russia will not accept losing this war, or betrayal of power, or surrender of any positions of principle. The greedy West will immediately take advantage of this in order to realize its age-old dreams, to fracture Russia, to create strife and turmoil in it, and to plunder it in parallel. For Russia, therefore, it is a principled war with existential interests. This is what the collective West does not want to understand, or understands, but does not care, as usual, because it is led by its own ambitions and interests.

Thanks MVitaly !

Totalement d'accord avec Fanny Ardant

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MXOiVl70wBU

Moi aussi !!! Elle a un cerveau au moins elle ...

PW

Now that would be interesting too!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HLeBb6hPUC8

PIERRE WOODMAN wrote: ↑

Wed Jul 12, 2023 11:23 pm

Moi aussi !!! Elle a un cerveau au moins elle ...

PW

Oui mais c'est compliqué quand même, de dire par exemple ce que Fanny Ardent dit, à la terrasse d'un café parisien par exemple, y'a tout de suite des regards, ect, je peux comprendre aussi les gens qui veulent pas trop se faire chier à s'expliquer pour rester "fréquentable"