We still laugh when you appear after a small break from having your head up Putins ass to come here and post your lies
RUSSIA - UKRAINE 2022 CONFLICT
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El Major, i think this topic is too high for you. If you dont know how to discuss be quiet please.
@MVitaly5 Russia have the same propaganda as the west. Russia says the west starts the war and the west says russia starts the war. I think both sides are doing nothing for freedom. I am a russian man living in germany. I see news in germany and i see news in russia. I can tell you if you see news in germany you are on the side of the west. If i see news in russia i am on the side of russia. I dont know if you questioning yourself if the news in russia telll you the truth. It is impossible to tell the truth if you are in hand of the goverment and not independent.
Give me the source for this:
and for this:Merkel, Hollande, Poroshenko, Zelensky, Stoltenberg and other politicians have already admitted that they had no intention of implementing the Minsk agreements
The US has no pity for anyone, they have already confirmed that they blew up the Nord Stream 2 pipeline, which was extremely beneficial to Europe
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You dont get to tell me what to do or say here so shut the fuck up.alexandrow wrote: ↑Wed Feb 22, 2023 9:08 pmEl Major, i think this topic is too high for you. If you dont know how to discuss be quiet please.
@MVitaly5 Russia have the same propaganda as the west. Russia says the west starts the war and the west says russia starts the war. I think both sides are doing nothing for freedom. I am a russian man living in germany. I see news in germany and i see news in russia. I can tell you if you see news in germany you are on the side of the west. If i see news in russia i am on the side of russia. I dont know if you questioning yourself if the news in russia telll you the truth. It is impossible to tell the truth if you are in hand of the goverment and not independent.
Give me the source for this:and for this:Merkel, Hollande, Poroshenko, Zelensky, Stoltenberg and other politicians have already admitted that they had no intention of implementing the Minsk agreementsThe US has no pity for anyone, they have already confirmed that they blew up the Nord Stream 2 pipeline, which was extremely beneficial to Europe
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alexandrow
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In every message you insult people. Please stop or I will tell your mother and she will shut off your internet.
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In every message MrVitaly comes here and spread his propaganda yes. You are correct. He was warned and not banned only if he stopped sprading russian propaganda.This was Pierres words
So when he pops up again and insults spiderdog etc and everyone else that dont agree with russian propaganda I will speak up
I dont care about you one bit
So when he pops up again and insults spiderdog etc and everyone else that dont agree with russian propaganda I will speak up
I dont care about you one bit
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I don't want to clutter up this topic, as Pierre asked, but I will answer your question.alexandrow wrote: ↑Wed Feb 22, 2023 9:08 pm@MVitaly5 Russia have the same propaganda as the west. Russia says the west starts the war and the west says russia starts the war. I think both sides are doing nothing for freedom. I am a russian man living in germany. I see news in germany and i see news in russia. I can tell you if you see news in germany you are on the side of the west. If i see news in russia i am on the side of russia. I dont know if you questioning yourself if the news in russia telll you the truth. It is impossible to tell the truth if you are in hand of the goverment and not independent.
I don't want to sound pompous, but I am a person who has seen a lot in my lifetime, who has been around international and military politics all my life, and at such an age that I have long since stopped making my opinion and viewpoint on any issues based on data from the media. As far as journalists are concerned, this is the second oldest profession and that says it all. I derive my knowledge from life experience and constant self-education. I have said this many times in this forum.
https://www.zeit.de/2022/51/angela-merk ... ndex.ru%2Falexandrow wrote: ↑Wed Feb 22, 2023 9:08 pmGive me the source for this:Merkel, Hollande, Poroshenko, Zelensky, Stoltenberg and other politicians have already admitted that they had no intention of implementing the Minsk agreements
https://kyivindependent.com/national/ho ... the-ground
As for Poroshenko, Zelenski and Stoltenberg, they keep talking about it in their speeches.
Of course, this is not an official recognition (the US is unlikely to recognise it officially), but Simon Hersh, a very influential American publicist and winner of several Pulitzer Prizes, is very close to US power circles.alexandrow wrote: ↑Wed Feb 22, 2023 9:08 pmand for this:The US has no pity for anyone, they have already confirmed that they blew up the Nord Stream 2 pipeline, which was extremely beneficial to Europe
Other American and European politicians are also open about it.
And most importantly, there is an ancient legal concept which says " Cui prodest?" I don't think you need to explain who benefits from this?
https://seymourhersh.substack.com/p/how ... eam?r=5mz1
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Mon pauvre tu n'as rien compris à mon mode de pensée , tu devrais réfléchir avant de l'ouvrir et d'attribuer des pensées aux autres et de les juger selon ta vision ! Mon commentaire était ironique , pour se moquer un peu de l'exagération ambiante !MVitaly5 wrote: ↑Wed Feb 22, 2023 9:19 amPierre, who are you trying to explain something to?
The person who hates everyone but himself, hates his homeland France, the person who sincerely believes that when the USA invaded other countries, overthrew governments of these countries, organized and instigated revolutions, it was all done "for the benefit of higher democratic and free values". Do you think he cares about your Orban? Yes, he will clap his hands when he is toppled. He, who lives in Canada, does not remember that the Canadian military contingent, participated in the Korean War, the Gulf War, the operation in Yugoslavia and Kosovo, were in Afghanistan. In all these places, they killed tens of thousands of people, "for the good of their values". Only he naively believes that being in Canada, and licking their American master's ass, will save them in the face of a modern third world war. They have long since stopped trying to think creatively, and have long acted according to the old, well-known methods; invading other countries, under "great-spiritual pretexts", arranging and provoking revolutions, overthrowing legitimately elected authorities. All this is not known and not understood only by uneducated and inexperienced young brats. They naively believe that, as usual, by "setting fire" to Eurasia, they will succeed in sitting back across the ocean, making a profit. Let them not be fooled, they will not be able to hide in today's world.
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MVitaly5 ou autres puisque vous êtes si fort en politique dites moi ce qu'il aurait fallu faire parce que si vous n'avez pas appris de l'histoire , alors vraiment ! Il n'"y aucune issue possible , toutes se terminent par la guerre en Ukraine !
Même si les Amerlocs étaient restés neutre et l'Ukraine avait fermée les yeux comme l'avait fait la Belgique Neutre en 1914 et 1939 , ils auraient été envahis , qui peut croire les excuses d'un autocrate expansionniste , l'excuse de la Neutralité n'a jamais empêcher les Hitler , Napoleon ou Frederic de Prusse d'envahir ce qu'ils convoitaient au mépris de la neutralité , quoiqu'il arrive si il n' y avait eu ni Europe , ni USA et si toutes les exigences de la Russie avait été remplie , ils auraient annexés l'Ukraine , donc tout ça est de la foutaise !
Même si les Amerlocs étaient restés neutre et l'Ukraine avait fermée les yeux comme l'avait fait la Belgique Neutre en 1914 et 1939 , ils auraient été envahis , qui peut croire les excuses d'un autocrate expansionniste , l'excuse de la Neutralité n'a jamais empêcher les Hitler , Napoleon ou Frederic de Prusse d'envahir ce qu'ils convoitaient au mépris de la neutralité , quoiqu'il arrive si il n' y avait eu ni Europe , ni USA et si toutes les exigences de la Russie avait été remplie , ils auraient annexés l'Ukraine , donc tout ça est de la foutaise !
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alexandrow
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I read the article about Merkel. She said with the Minsk agreements she wanted to give Ukraine time. Time to get stronger to defend itself. She never said it was to get stronger to start a war or something.MVitaly5 wrote: ↑Wed Feb 22, 2023 11:57 pmI don't want to clutter up this topic, as Pierre asked, but I will answer your question.alexandrow wrote: ↑Wed Feb 22, 2023 9:08 pm@MVitaly5 Russia have the same propaganda as the west. Russia says the west starts the war and the west says russia starts the war. I think both sides are doing nothing for freedom. I am a russian man living in germany. I see news in germany and i see news in russia. I can tell you if you see news in germany you are on the side of the west. If i see news in russia i am on the side of russia. I dont know if you questioning yourself if the news in russia telll you the truth. It is impossible to tell the truth if you are in hand of the goverment and not independent.
I don't want to sound pompous, but I am a person who has seen a lot in my lifetime, who has been around international and military politics all my life, and at such an age that I have long since stopped making my opinion and viewpoint on any issues based on data from the media. As far as journalists are concerned, this is the second oldest profession and that says it all. I derive my knowledge from life experience and constant self-education. I have said this many times in this forum.
https://www.zeit.de/2022/51/angela-merk ... ndex.ru%2Falexandrow wrote: ↑Wed Feb 22, 2023 9:08 pmGive me the source for this:Merkel, Hollande, Poroshenko, Zelensky, Stoltenberg and other politicians have already admitted that they had no intention of implementing the Minsk agreements
https://kyivindependent.com/national/ho ... the-ground
As for Poroshenko, Zelenski and Stoltenberg, they keep talking about it in their speeches.
Of course, this is not an official recognition (the US is unlikely to recognise it officially), but Simon Hersh, a very influential American publicist and winner of several Pulitzer Prizes, is very close to US power circles.alexandrow wrote: ↑Wed Feb 22, 2023 9:08 pmand for this:The US has no pity for anyone, they have already confirmed that they blew up the Nord Stream 2 pipeline, which was extremely beneficial to Europe
Other American and European politicians are also open about it.
And most importantly, there is an ancient legal concept which says " Cui prodest?" I don't think you need to explain who benefits from this?
https://seymourhersh.substack.com/p/how ... eam?r=5mz1
What do you think she was feeling after the Crimea annexation. Yeah Russia go on? Go take more?
Sometime it sounds like people just hear what they want to hear.