Oui je suis d'accord, la couleur de peau franchement on s'en fout, l'important c'est ce que les gens ont dans la tête et le coeur.
La question n'est pas la couleur de peau, la culture ou la religion, la question principale est celle de l'intégration et l'assimilation par rapport au pays de naissance ou d'accueil.
Je suis totalement opposé à la bi-nationalité, manger à deux rateliers à la fois ce n'est pas possible, et pourtant c'est rendu possible à cause de nos chers politiques de merde depuis 50 ans.
Une gangrène
C'est comme si je devais bosser le matin chez le petit boulanger du coin, et aller bosser l'après midi dans un hypermarché au rayon boulangerie, et qui passe son temps à casser les prix pour faire disparaître le petit au profit du gros, un truc comme çà ce n'est possible.
Donc oui la couleur de peau on s'en fout, à condition d'avoir un positionnement clair

I agree.

Emiliano Martinez actions were disgust. Really. One should treat with respect an award gained that way.


Man... I am still sad France has lost...

Beyond the racist issue, you can't deny having a full line-up of African origins (with the exception of the goalkeeper) looks extremly weird when Argentina had an all-white line-up. You can celebrate or hate it, but there's hardly a middle ground.

Regarding the taunty/ridiculous antics of Martinez celebrations, it must be said that M'Bappe is a very hated person in South America due to statements he made earlier about the differences of level between European and South American football. Football is a religion in this area of the world, M'Bappe should have been less arrogant, he wouldn't be ridiculed now.

People forget how vile and full of hate the Italians were in 2006 after the final they won against France. They were far worse than all the Martinez in the world.

This event has been watch by millions of kids/childs, there's no excuse for Martinez behavior, no matter what Mbappe have said, you don't solde your personal drama this way, on the podium of a World Cup, it's not what this event is supposed to share as valor/principe, otherwhise you stay in Argentina's bars/pubs, and you do this with your drink buddy, not in front of worldwide childs/kids

Lionel wrote: ↑

Wed Dec 21, 2022 9:43 am

M'Bappe should have been less arrogant, he wouldn't be ridiculed now.

I see what you mean, but winning the tournament, already settle things in ego, there's no need for extra bonus sexual trophy trolling shit, in front of kids, Quatar officials, ect

mspm89 wrote: ↑

Tue Dec 20, 2022 9:03 pm

doxxx wrote: ↑

Tue Dec 20, 2022 6:44 pm

Spiderdog wrote: ↑

Tue Dec 20, 2022 4:49 pm

Les argentins sont à l'image de Maradona , grossiers , vulgaires , il avaient déjà chambrés les Pays-Bas après le 1/4 de final et s'était montrés méprisant avec les autres dès le début de la compétition, leur comportement anti sportif devrait être sanctionné ! Puis franchement cette victoire sera vite oubliée comme celle des tricheurs Italiens en 2006 , puis 36 ans pour regagner une compétition a l'arrache au tir aux buts je la ramènerait pas trop parce que c'est pas glorieux !
Je me souviens en 1990 le scandale qu'avait fait Maradona et les tacles assassins des Argentins pour contenir l'Allemagne !

when one is racist one is racist, and like when one is stupid... there is no useful medicine or

And Argentina's team is like 10 times whiter than France's. LOL

Calling Argentina and Italy buffoons and sellouts is a form of racism, saying that that nation is all corrupt is a form of racism! Is racism limited to skin color for you? I sincerely hope not otherwise any other way to bury a people as it should be called?

Racism goes beyond the color of the skin indeed.

@Jean : Je suis d'accord que la victoire devrait suffire, mais les Sud Américains ont la rancune vivace, je ne connais pas la teneur de ce qu'a pu balancer M'Bappé mais ça a l'air d'avoir laissé de sales traces. Le coup du trophée en mode bite, ça m'a fait rire que ça ait lieu devant les représentants qataris, car je suis taquin.

@Lionel: ça promet, niveau ambiance, dans le vestiaire du PSG...

Lionel wrote: ↑

Wed Dec 21, 2022 9:43 am

Beyond the racist issue, you can't deny having a full line-up of African origins (with the exception of the goalkeeper) looks extremly weird when Argentina had an all-white line-up. You can celebrate or hate it, but there's hardly a middle ground.

Regarding the taunty/ridiculous antics of Martinez celebrations, it must be said that M'Bappe is a very hated person in South America due to statements he made earlier about the differences of level between European and South American football. Football is a religion in this area of the world, M'Bappe should have been less arrogant, he wouldn't be ridiculed now.

People forget how vile and full of hate the Italians were in 2006 after the final they won against France. They were far worse than all the Martinez in the world.

Sauf que Martinez est un idiot et que Mbappe a raison , Martinez il joue à Aston Villa , pas en Argentine ! La majorité de l'equipe d'Argentine joue dans des clubs en Europe ! Donc il a raison de dire que le Football sud américain n'est rien comparé à l'Europe , c'est pas de l'arrogance c'est juste la réalité ! Qui a sorti Messi de son bidonville , c'est Barcelone et le football espagnol , c'est pas l'Argentine ! Martinez a été sorti de la pauvreté par Arsenal , alors avant de la ramener on reste modeste et on évite d'oublier d'où vient et de remercier ceux qui nous ont aidés , les clubs européens , sans cette aide l'Argentine serait comme de nombreux pays qui n'ont pas de joueurs de clubs européens , c'est à dire dans les derniers !

Lionel wrote: ↑

Wed Dec 21, 2022 9:43 am

Beyond the racist issue, you can't deny having a full line-up of African origins (with the exception of the goalkeeper) looks extremly weird when Argentina had an all-white line-up. You can celebrate or hate it, but there's hardly a middle ground.

Regarding the taunty/ridiculous antics of Martinez celebrations, it must be said that M'Bappe is a very hated person in South America due to statements he made earlier about the differences of level between European and South American football. Football is a religion in this area of the world, M'Bappe should have been less arrogant, he wouldn't be ridiculed now.

People forget how vile and full of hate the Italians were in 2006 after the final they won against France. They were far worse than all the Martinez in the world.

see your tooth is poisoned enough to see what it really isn't! ? but every now and then a nice bath of humility and maybe think instead of using your head like one of your beloved footballers did?