Obviously taxes go for the most useless expenses, with the money that nations invest in armaments it feeds 3/4 of the world, but it is just a concept to make you understand that the homeland should not be honored and sincerely that fucking eagle on your profile it is nothing but useless patriotism! patriotism is the virtue of perverts according to Oscar Wilde.MVitaly5 wrote: ↑Fri Oct 14, 2022 9:30 pmYou pay your taxes. And where do your taxes go? Including for the maintenance of the army, of the country in which you live. You can choose not to serve in the army, it's your choice and probably your right. But do you think the army protects you or do you despise it because it has, as you put it, a license to kill?doxxx wrote: ↑Fri Oct 14, 2022 8:30 pmFirst of all in this post we talk about the war in Ukraine, otherwise I do not write in this post that I disgust the dirty mercenaries of all the wars, so I will not write it in the post of the war in ukraine !! about home state, what would change what my home country did? see dear, I'm not a fucking patriot, but a man who does not believe in anything and thinks, earns his living honestly and pays taxes and above all does not join the army to have a license to kill.
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Oooh, strong, and most importantly frank.doxxx wrote: ↑Sat Oct 15, 2022 9:29 amObviously taxes go for the most useless expenses, with the money that nations invest in armaments it feeds 3/4 of the world, but it is just a concept to make you understand that the homeland should not be honored and sincerely that fucking eagle on your profile it is nothing but useless patriotism! patriotism is the virtue of perverts according to Oscar Wilde.
Well, actually, everything with you is clear. But consider this!It's not even about patriotism, but about self-identification. And in self-identification, which does not contradict, and does not come into conflict with other types of self-identification (other nations, cultures, religions, etc.).
As for you, cosmopolitans like you simply hang a bank number on your forehead, because those who will govern you don't need your name, your family name, your tribe and your opinion in general. Do you think that with your ideology you have become free? You are mistaken! If you live in a particular society, you will depend on that society and its laws! You have chosen the path of a world citizen, only you will also be manipulated, only by those who claim to be world shepherds, and there will always be such. And the latter, it is very profitable and easy to control and manipulate people like you, who voluntarily give up their self-identity. And in the role of the world shepherd, you clearly will not be, so you will be a member of the flock, only still without a name and genus-tribe. And you will be forced to pay taxes to maintain all that you so hate, and you will not go anywhere!
That is why all your "freedom" from the duties imposed on you by the society in which you live, is only your illusion!
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Freedom ? but who the fuck ever talked about freedom? but can you understand what I write? come on, do me the favor! take off the stupid eagle and put the pussy that this is a porn forum and not for elated warmongering patriots and advocate of a war criminalMVitaly5 wrote: ↑Sat Oct 15, 2022 10:11 amOooh, strong, and most importantly frank.doxxx wrote: ↑Sat Oct 15, 2022 9:29 amObviously taxes go for the most useless expenses, with the money that nations invest in armaments it feeds 3/4 of the world, but it is just a concept to make you understand that the homeland should not be honored and sincerely that fucking eagle on your profile it is nothing but useless patriotism! patriotism is the virtue of perverts according to Oscar Wilde.
It's not even about patriotism, but about self-identification. And in self-identification, which does not contradict, and does not come into conflict with other types of self-identification (other nations, cultures, religions, etc.).
As for you, cosmopolitans like you simply hang a bank number on your forehead, because those who will govern you don't need your name, your family name, your tribe and your opinion in general. Do you think that with your ideology you have become free? You are mistaken! If you live in a particular society, you will depend on that society and its laws! You have chosen the path of a world citizen, only you will also be manipulated, only by those who claim to be world shepherds, and there will always be such. And the latter, it is very profitable and easy to control and manipulate people like you, who voluntarily give up their self-identity. And in the role of the world shepherd, you clearly will not be, so you will be a member of the flock, only still without a name and genus-tribe. And you will be forced to pay taxes to maintain all that you so hate, and you will not go anywhere!
That is why all your "freedom" from the duties imposed on you by the society in which you live, is only your illusion!
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doxxx wrote: ↑Sat Oct 15, 2022 10:20 amFreedom ? but who the fuck ever talked about freedom? but can you understand what I write? come on, do me the favor! take off the stupid eagle and put the pussy that this is a porn forum and not for elated warmongering patriots and advocate of a war criminalMVitaly5 wrote: ↑Sat Oct 15, 2022 10:11 amOooh, strong, and most importantly frank.doxxx wrote: ↑Sat Oct 15, 2022 9:29 amObviously taxes go for the most useless expenses, with the money that nations invest in armaments it feeds 3/4 of the world, but it is just a concept to make you understand that the homeland should not be honored and sincerely that fucking eagle on your profile it is nothing but useless patriotism! patriotism is the virtue of perverts according to Oscar Wilde.
It's not even about patriotism, but about self-identification. And in self-identification, which does not contradict, and does not come into conflict with other types of self-identification (other nations, cultures, religions, etc.).
As for you, cosmopolitans like you simply hang a bank number on your forehead, because those who will govern you don't need your name, your family name, your tribe and your opinion in general. Do you think that with your ideology you have become free? You are mistaken! If you live in a particular society, you will depend on that society and its laws! You have chosen the path of a world citizen, only you will also be manipulated, only by those who claim to be world shepherds, and there will always be such. And the latter, it is very profitable and easy to control and manipulate people like you, who voluntarily give up their self-identity. And in the role of the world shepherd, you clearly will not be, so you will be a member of the flock, only still without a name and genus-tribe. And you will be forced to pay taxes to maintain all that you so hate, and you will not go anywhere!
That is why all your "freedom" from the duties imposed on you by the society in which you live, is only your illusion!
It offends woke retards as yourself the beautiful Russian emblem?Its that patriotism that saved Europe from Nazism you ungrateful POS. It's the fake "patriotism"of fake countries like Ukraine, or stupid loser countries like Poland, the Baltics, Finland, or idiot american neocons that's what Oscar Wilde had in mind when he made his famous quotation - not the beautiful , pure and inspiring patriotism of Russians and people like Vitaly.
The double-headed-eagle stays, A-hole.Russia patriotism is based on the miraculous forming, against all the odds, of the largest country in the world with the most amazing culture in the face of European scum invading it large-scale, trying to destroy it once every century for the last 400 years.
And if you are going to quote Wilde, then do something that applies more to Vitaly you buffoon:
"I have nothing to declare, except my intelligence" - that would sum up how there is a huge brain deficit between intellectual Vitaly and the dumb nitwits on here like John Wick and this even dumber 'tard Justask
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Спасибо JDR!
Красивые слова!
Красивые слова!
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what did your mother do wrong to have you? never allow yourself to write retarded or foolish againJDR wrote: ↑Sat Oct 15, 2022 10:37 amdoxxx wrote: ↑Sat Oct 15, 2022 10:20 amFreedom ? but who the fuck ever talked about freedom? but can you understand what I write? come on, do me the favor! take off the stupid eagle and put the pussy that this is a porn forum and not for elated warmongering patriots and advocate of a war criminalMVitaly5 wrote: ↑Sat Oct 15, 2022 10:11 am
Oooh, strong, and most importantly frank.
It's not even about patriotism, but about self-identification. And in self-identification, which does not contradict, and does not come into conflict with other types of self-identification (other nations, cultures, religions, etc.).
As for you, cosmopolitans like you simply hang a bank number on your forehead, because those who will govern you don't need your name, your family name, your tribe and your opinion in general. Do you think that with your ideology you have become free? You are mistaken! If you live in a particular society, you will depend on that society and its laws! You have chosen the path of a world citizen, only you will also be manipulated, only by those who claim to be world shepherds, and there will always be such. And the latter, it is very profitable and easy to control and manipulate people like you, who voluntarily give up their self-identity. And in the role of the world shepherd, you clearly will not be, so you will be a member of the flock, only still without a name and genus-tribe. And you will be forced to pay taxes to maintain all that you so hate, and you will not go anywhere!
That is why all your "freedom" from the duties imposed on you by the society in which you live, is only your illusion!
Its that patriotism that saved Europe from Nazism you ungrateful POS. It's the fake "patriotism"of fake countries like Ukraine, or stupid loser countries like Poland, the Baltics, Finland, or idiot american neocons that's what Oscar Wilde had in mind when he made his famous quotation - not the beautiful , pure and inspiring patriotism of Russians and people like Vitaly.
The double-headed-eagle stays, A-hole.Russia patriotism is based on the miraculous forming, against all the odds, of the largest country in the world with the most amazing culture in the face of European scum invading it large-scale, trying to destroy it once every century for the last 400 years.
And if you are going to quote Wilde, then do something that applies more to Vitaly you buffoon:
"I have nothing to declare, except my intelligence" - that would sum up how there is a huge brain deficit between intellectual Vitaly and the dumb nitwits on here like John Wick and this even dumber 'tard Justask
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justask wrote: ↑Sat Oct 15, 2022 12:58 amMVitaly5 wrote: ↑Fri Oct 14, 2022 11:05 pm
The most important reason is economic. Russia does not need these territories. Why take territories that are economically unprofitable around your neck. Russia will have to restore and develop the liberated territories, which have simply degraded over the past 30 years. After all, Ukraine did not develop its territories in any way, but used the rich inheritance it inherited from the Soviet Union. I used to visit Ukraine regularly until 2014. I can tell you that everything is as it was under the Soviet Union, and remains the same, but over the years it has become dilapidated and decayed. But these liberated territories are very promising, because the whole territory of Ukraine, except for the Western part, has excellent agricultural black soil and a favorable climate. Here we simply take away historically ours and we will have to work with people, while with Western Ukraine the situation is different, in my opinion.
The second point, how do you propose to solve the issue with Western Ukraine? To exterminate people? Then how would we be better than them? After all, in Western Ukraine, everything is so overgrown with this terrestrial Nazism. It is in these territories that the descendants of the Banderites live, plus 30 years, constantly processing new generations of young people in the spirit of Nazism and Russophobia. All the last generations of young people, were taught by false history textbooks, false heroes and culture were propagandized. That is where the most active marches of SS descendants are. Even those people who are ethnically Russian, they no longer consider themselves to be Russians. And most people living there have more family ties with Poles, Hungarians than Russians.
In general, the issue is very complicated. I think, let the Poles, Romanians and Hungarians solve the issue of Western Ukraine. They help them so much now, so let them deal with them, with those whose kin killed the same Poles in the Volyn massacre, the same Hungarians. When the Ukro-Nazis lay claim to the exclusivity of their nation on these territories, over the Poles, Hungarians, and Romanians who live there, we will see how the latter will sing their songs.
After talking about 100 pages how important it is to destroy the nazis and that russia and Putin had no choice to invade ukraine....now you openly say that the main reasons of the comquers are economic reasons?
Why take territories that are economically unprofitable???
I thought it is about to defeat the nazis and to claim what ist historical yours????
Now you show imperialistic thinking...
Insidious, factless bozo - Vitaly never said that you dumbass. Galicia is not historical Russia, well it was but not after the defeat of the Golden Horde out of Russia. Since the re-establishment and heroic growth of the great Russian state since the late 1400's, until 1939-1991, Galicia(i.e most of western Ukraine) has not been part of Russia.
Since the 1400's most of northern and eastern "Ukraine" has always been Russia. What is now the south of Ukraine, and practically all of the black Sea coast was NEVER part of any Ukraine( itself a creation of Vladimir Lenin), until Russia made it so. It was all unhabitated pretty much , the so-called "Wild Fields", until these lands become part of Russia in the 1700's- early 1800's. Kiev was the birthplace of Russia, and again became part of Russian world since the late 1600's. Everything you see in the city is Russian.
Imperialism has nothing to do with it . Russia is not imperialistic , lazy fool. As is obvious, Russia to the fake country of Ukraine is not the same as UK to India or France to Ivory Coast.
Saving people of Russian world, living on Russian land requires denazification - the number 1 goal of the SMO. To do that requires economic considerations to be thought of as well, clown, or else the Russian state will have no money. The most thorough way of denazification would be to destroy the "brain" of this Ukraine - western Europe and the US - but clearly going to war with them, invading and occupying is highly unfeasable and uneconomic to do so. On a smaller level, western Ukraine getting annihilated and taken control of would be a big step in denazification - however its not historical russian land and its economically and culturally useless.All this things need to be considered and have balanced conclusions.
Just a reminder 'tard, that the west became involved in WW2 because of Nazi invasion of Poland, but never placed feet in Poland or intended to. Economic ( and other) considerations were behind the decision not to do so and prioritise fighting in Norway, North Africa, Italy, France, Holland, Greece and other places.
Russia has been 100% good and consistent in this war and their objectives in it.
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Well, we know that nuclear weapon is dangerous. Why does putin always mention using it? Sounds like a desperate man. Other countries going to war only use conventional weapon. Does he think that if he uses nuclear weapon other country wont retaliate? Is he using nuclear words to convince other country to negotiate with him. Sound very desperate to me.MVitaly5 wrote: ↑Fri Oct 14, 2022 9:24 pmWhat makes you think that?)
Today he was at the summit in Astana, then gave a press conference. As usual, he answered any questions, even the most unpleasant ones, clearly and to the point. Perhaps, there are a lot of complaints against Putin, but the fact that he is always calm and composed is a fact. It's the Soviet school of the KGB that does the trick. There were iron men in that organization. Unlike his Western counterparts, who are prone to hysterics and sometimes don't watch their language at all.
No other country that goes to war in the western world mention nuclear weapon. In the cold war a mention of nuclear bomb convince everyone to negotiate with Russia. This time its different. No western country wants to negotiate with Russia. In fact they are calling his bluff. If its not a bluff, Russia will suffer greatly.
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I declare to you with full responsibility that all threats allegedly coming from Putin about Russia's use of nuclear weapons are coming from the Western media and politicians!alexus2 wrote: ↑Sat Oct 15, 2022 6:02 pmWell, we know that nuclear weapon is dangerous. Why does putin always mention using it? Sounds like a desperate man. Other countries going to war only use conventional weapon. Does he think that if he uses nuclear weapon other country wont retaliate? Is he using nuclear words to convince other country to negotiate with him. Sound very desperate to me.
No other country that goes to war in the western world mention nuclear weapon. In the cold war a mention of nuclear bomb convince everyone to negotiate with Russia. This time its different. No western country wants to negotiate with Russia. In fact they are calling his bluff. If its not a bluff,
Putin, in his address to the Russians on September 23, 2022, mentioned it only once, reminding only of Russia's nuclear doctrine, that Russia will defend itself by any means possible, should there be a clear threat to Russia's security. I have said many times here that Russia's military doctrine talks about using nuclear weapons only as a retaliatory measure or when the very existence of the state is threatened!
I assure you that all this is deliberately hyped up by your lying media and politicians. If you can find me a link where Putin, (lately), apart from his speech of September 24, 2022, talks about nuclear weapons, much less threatens to use them, I am ready to publicly apologize to you here.
Well, to others, too, it won't be little...
https://news.yahoo.co.jp/articles/05b69 ... 14c?page=2