MVitaly5 wrote: ↑

Thu Oct 13, 2022 4:00 pm

Ukrainian Foreign Minister Dmytro Kuleba in a conversation with pranksters Vovan and Lexus admitted that Kiev was behind the explosions in Belgorod and Crimea.
Pranksters spoke to the Ukrainian Foreign Minister on behalf of former U.S. Ambassador to Moscow Michael McFaul.
"But if you ask me who is blowing something up in Crimea or Belgorod, I will tell you in private that yes, it's us," the minister said.
In addition, he said the Ukrainian authorities were preparing a counteroffensive in the south "in close cooperation with partners," primarily Britain and the United States.
https://vk.com/theprankvideo?z=clip-373 ... _-37359595

Vitaly, great that Vovan and Lexus have duped this slimeball shitbag Kuleba - some bastard who will surely face war crime trials in Russia!

I got confused though about the "explosions" in Belgorod. Ukronazis have repeatedly shelled Belgorod, mainly getting no further than border villages before being shot down by air defence systems, but I did not hear about anu Kerch strait bridge style bomb explosions in Belgorod. I heard yesterday that 100 rockets and missiles were fired at Belgorod and ALL of them were intercepted, which is incredible. Certainly there was no major damage caused. As for bomb explosion in Belgorod - when was this Vitaly?

What else I wanted to ask you, is what you theorise the plan at Gostomel airport was? What was there, which made it a main priority for the Northern front along with removing radioactive material from Chernobyl and dragging ukronazi army personnel away from Donbass?
The operation that attacked and then seized control of it is one of the greatest and most successful and audacious operations in military history.

justask wrote: ↑

Thu Oct 13, 2022 4:56 pm

MVitaly5 wrote: ↑

Thu Oct 13, 2022 3:25 pm

justask wrote: ↑

Thu Oct 13, 2022 2:45 pm

Okay, but to be fair you have to decide, why they annexed that regions:
1) because in the beginning they only wanted to free the people (annexion was not the original plan) and then saw: oh no the "nazis" are to bad. To save the people we include these region into russia(so russia was just the victim of the circumstances).
OR!!!!!!!!
2) they planned it from the beginning to annex regions, because of their "historical" right.


Both can not be true, because if 2) ist true the nazis doesnt matter, because russia was annexing this regions anyway! (Then the western media were right, because they said in the beginning that annexions are the objective of Putin. Which you declared as Fake News a few month ago!)

If 1) is true, your celebrating post after the annexion makes absolutely no sense: why are you talking about "historic homeland" and "russia quest to regain what ist hers by historical right"? I thought it was about to free people and defeat the nazis? And russia didnt wanted to annex that regions but had no choice.


Do you see the contradictory?

Honestly, I don't understand what the fuck you wrote and what "cunning" intent, you want to "expose" and actually, what you want from me...))

1). My, as you put it, celebratory post, it merely expressed my personal attitude to it. In my opinion, only very few territories have been liberated and incorporated into Russia so far, but "it's not yet evening".
2). I do not remember what news from the Western media you are referring to, but they are in any case fake, because they cannot know the true plans of the Russian leadership, but can only speculate and guess, so their possible statements before the time is just an idea, not a statement of the truth.

And most importantly!
I don't care at all who planned what there, who told the truth or untruth, for any contradictions. For me, the main thing is that there are native and historical Russian territories, which, I do not know why, during the Soviet Union were transferred to the Ukrainian Soviet Republic, and respectively after the collapse of the USSR, through inconsideration, became part of another state. On these territories there are cities that were built by Russian emperors and on these territories live Russian people, my brothers, and I will not allow them to be non-Russian and even more so Nazi!

To the First: The western media(the majority) never said, Putin will definitely annex ukrain regions. They just guessed, that he will do it(what he now did).

They also guessed, that russia ist not to fight nazis(the existence of nazis is not declined in Western Media, they just say russia ist exaggerating the role of nazis in ukraine), they want primarily gain her "land back". What you now also confirm? Because you will not allow them to be non-russia. The nazi thing only make it even "better". So now the nazi thing is only secondarily(i thought the main point of this war is to defeat the nazis?) Would you even think the annexion would be fine if there lived peaceful people of the indian state(because they would be also non-russia)

Last:
You say we western people are only "eating the western media and lies" and dont use our brain to get to the truth.
Now you tell openly "i dont care about who told the truth". So for russia media would lying be fine for you?

PS:
But how could russia know about the true plan of the Nato and Ukraine and almost every other Leadership of the world? Or they also just speculating and guessing?

Wow you are thick, dumbo. Or are just duplicitous instead of dumb?

Ukraine is a NAZI state, ruled by NAZIS, for NAZIS. The role of nazis is not "exaggerated", swine.

Nazis have disproportionate control of police, military and intelligence of Banderastan, intimidate and assault priests over which church they serve, dictate key parts of education system, "culture" sphere of Ukraine, and although the West was the main reason - are the second biggest reason the Minsk Agreements was sabotaged. They have created a decayed, pathological society over last eight years. Only imbeciles think Nazi role is "exaggerated". It is run as "anti-russia' as foundation of Statr ideology. Of course it's Nazi+++.
The murders, kidnappings, tortures and general mass sadism is one thing prevalent from the UKRONAZIS - but what differs them from German Nazis, is they had mentality of superiority over Slavs and Jews - the ukronazi does his evil, coward swine acts out of INFERIORITY complex to Russians.

JDR wrote: ↑

Thu Oct 13, 2022 10:02 pm

I got confused though about the "explosions" in Belgorod. Ukronazis have repeatedly shelled Belgorod, mainly getting no further than border villages before being shot down by air defence systems, but I did not hear about anu Kerch strait bridge style bomb explosions in Belgorod. I heard yesterday that 100 rockets and missiles were fired at Belgorod and ALL of them were intercepted, which is incredible. Certainly there was no major damage caused. As for bomb explosion in Belgorod - when was this Vitaly?

Well, you understand that I don't have all the information either, I don't sit in the General Staff.
But, according to my information, the Nazis made a massive missile attack on Belgorod on 13.10.
They fired American AGM-88 missiles. These missiles are anti-radar, but the Nazis in their vindictive revenge, for the lack of tactical missiles, use missiles designed to suppress the accompanying air defense equipment.
I don't know exactly how many missiles they fired at Belgorod, but 100% of the missiles were intercepted by Russian air defenses, which are already universally recognized as the best in the world. The only shrapnel from the intercepted missile hit the roof of a multi-storey building, damaging it. Of course, the Nazi CIPSO made a big deal out of it as the fire defeat of the century. What can you take from them, the wretched.
Here is the roof of the damaged house.


But when they fire artillery, sometimes their shells hit some mostly civilian infrastructure because an artillery shell is almost impossible to intercept. But artillery has a very limited range, and they can only shell Russian border settlements from their positions in the Kharkiv region, artillery cannot reach Belgorod.

JDR wrote: ↑

Thu Oct 13, 2022 10:02 pm

What else I wanted to ask you, is what you theorise the plan at Gostomel airport was? What was there, which made it a main priority for the Northern front along with removing radioactive material from Chernobyl and dragging ukronazi army personnel away from Donbass?
The operation that attacked and then seized control of it is one of the greatest and most successful and audacious operations in military history.

I absolutely agree with you, the operation of Russian paratroopers to take the airfield in Gostomel is a brilliant example of special operations. Hollywood would have already made a blockbuster movie based on this scenario if it had been the Americans.
As for the goals that the Russian Army pursued by seizing the airfield in Gostomel, I think so.
The airfield in Gostomel is one of the largest air hubs of Ukraine, not only for civil aviation, but also for military aviation. This airfield, used by aviation company "Antonov" (was the main hub), this legendary Soviet brand, which went to these bandar-logs, after the collapse of the Soviet Union. Plant "Antonov", produces large and heavy cargo aircraft. That is, the airfield in Gostomel, by its infrastructure and runway, is capable of receiving heavy cargo planes. That is what the Russian army was counting on, to be able to use its existing cargo aircraft, such as the AN-124 "Ruslan", and quickly relocate troops and military equipment near Kiev. It was very logistically convenient because this airfield was close to Kiev. But since under subsequent agreements with the Ukrainian Nazi regime, the Russian Army withdrew its troops from Kiev, the need for this airfield disappeared.

Giving Nazis to the Ukrainian nation is really bleak and meaningful, I wonder what sense all these monologues by exalted Russian patriots have! I am amazed that he allows himself to keep open this river of words that just reading you ask yourself if it is worth the human race to continue to dominate the earth, the theme of this post should only be to stop killing, and not to be strategists of war, unfortunately whoever chooses to kill and does it as a job, remains a murderer with a license to kill and nothing more!

doxxx wrote: ↑

Fri Oct 14, 2022 8:29 am

Giving Nazis to the Ukrainian nation is really bleak and meaningful, I wonder what sense all these monologues by exalted Russian patriots have! I am amazed that he allows himself to keep open this river of words that just reading you ask yourself if it is worth the human race to continue to dominate the earth, the theme of this post should only be to stop killing, and not to be strategists of war, unfortunately whoever chooses to kill and does it as a job, remains a murderer with a license to kill and nothing more!

Yes, but don't be selective here. Because, those who are selective in assigning blame are just lycimers. Why don't you blame everyone else? At the moment, people are being killed not only in Ukraine, why are you silent about it. Go out with a placard in the street and demand that wars in Africa, Syria, Palestine, Yemen stop. Not long ago Afghans were killed by American soldiers who came without an invitation or UN sanction. No one has heard you moan.
You're probably either from Italy or Spain, have you forgotten the Nazi past of your countries and how many people died because of you? Would you say that's already history? Just yesterday, your head of EU diplomacy, J. Borrell, said that they (the countries of Europe), are a garden of Eden, and all other countries are jungles. I quote him! You can find his speech on the Internet. What do you think it is? I've been accused of racism by a couple of jerks here without foundation. And this statement by Borrell is nothing but a mixture of rabid snobbery and xenophobia.
Look at yourself first and don't be so quick to judge!

Finally, Vitaly openly began to quote Goebbels. I hope he will end the same way.

russia is a terrorist state.

And bravo to "justask", you very competently laid out everything on the shelves, the russians inventing the next lie no longer remember that they lied last time

Russia is obviouly on the way to loss this war they started ...
So many innocent people died for this only because we are in a sick world transformed in a huge chess game where the biggest play as they want with us.
This forum is a good reflect of the weakness everyone has to see where is the truth !!!
Yes what did Putin is terrible, yes seeing so many lives gone for nothing breaks my heart but also seeing so many sheeps worldwide ready to drink any beavarage from media's on both sides make me think the future is a T road for this planet ...

PW

PIERRE WOODMAN wrote: ↑

Fri Oct 14, 2022 10:06 am

Russia is obviouly on the way to loss this war they started ...

PW

The facts?
Where is Russia losing?
So far, it is only acquiring territory, the population is growing, the economy is leveling off and rising, new economic production and logistics chains are being acquired and created.
Yes, there are human casualties, but there is a war that was not started by Russia. The introduction of the Russian Army on Ukrainian territory is only a stage in this war, which began long ago. But it is Russia that will end this war.

What are the results of this war? Finland and Sweden in NATO and Germany changeing their politics with russia (Scholtz SPD now only 20% of germans support) (if u dont know germany was collaborate so hard with russia before this war)
Great job russia

PIERRE WOODMAN wrote: ↑

Fri Oct 14, 2022 10:06 am

Yes what did Putin is terrible, yes seeing so many lives gone for nothing breaks my heart...
PW

When Orban decides to protect your family or the Hungarians who will be subjected to genocide, I don't think you will talk about him in the same mournful tone! Think about that at your leisure.
And it could happen, because in Transcarpathia (Ukraine), there are many ethnic Hungarians and Orban already said that he would protect them. And when there are only Banderites left in Western Ukraine, they will destroy the Hungarians as well, because for the Nazis there is no other nation but their own. This is their ideology.
That's what you can't understand by helping them now!