Meanwhile in Russia you can criticize Putin and the goverment ?
Stupid hypocrite
RUSSIA - UKRAINE 2022 CONFLICT
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@Mvitaly5:
Could you still please explain how a 99% referendum is possible?
I understand, that you say, the people there love russia and wanted to be part of russia again and so on. But you still dont explain how can the 99% be legit?
The only times in history where i know of 99% votes in the WHOLE human history are in dictatorships.
For example while the nazi regime in Germany. They had also 99%-numbers. There a lot of people supported hitler, but they still faked to the "holy" 99%?
Or do you not think the 99% are legit (so were manipulated) and it doesnt matter as long as more than 50% voted?
And please answer not with insults or change the topic.
Could you still please explain how a 99% referendum is possible?
I understand, that you say, the people there love russia and wanted to be part of russia again and so on. But you still dont explain how can the 99% be legit?
The only times in history where i know of 99% votes in the WHOLE human history are in dictatorships.
For example while the nazi regime in Germany. They had also 99%-numbers. There a lot of people supported hitler, but they still faked to the "holy" 99%?
Or do you not think the 99% are legit (so were manipulated) and it doesnt matter as long as more than 50% voted?
And please answer not with insults or change the topic.
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Keep dreaming.MVitaly5 wrote: ↑Wed Oct 12, 2022 3:07 pmRussia has already won this war!
It liberated and incorporated 4 territories larger than the entire territory of, for example, Hungary. Also Russia's population increased by more than 8 million people. And these territories are forever part of Russia and Russia will defend its sovereign territory by any means at its disposal. The West understands this very well, which is why the collective West and the puppet Nazi regime in Ukraine are hysterical right now after the referendums. And if Russia loses, there will be no winners either.
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MVitaly5 wrote: ↑Wed Mar 02, 2022 8:22 pmAnd in Russia there is absolute support - for Putin.El Major wrote: ↑Wed Mar 02, 2022 8:07 pmI wish you had the same concern for the Ukrainian pepole right now as they are being bombed and having to flee . Still its USA and the west you are harping on about. Putin started this and it and for no reason. Where is the big support for this even in Russia?
Because people understand that they are liberating Russian people and native Russian lands from the Nazis and NATO. Especially since the leaders of Russia have already stated that no one is going to deprive Ukraine of statehood and sovereignty. There is no intention to annex Ukraine to Russia.
People are fleeing to Europe mainly from Western Ukraine. Because the Nazis don't let people out of the cities to the east. It is understandable that ordinary people are afraid, especially since they are constantly put into a state of stress by the Ukranazi and Western European media with their fake materials about alleged "atrocities" by Russian soldiers. In Western Ukraine there is no Russian army at all now and nobody bombs them! I assure you that after the extermination of the Nazis, all those people who want to return to their homes will be free to do so. The Russian army does not fight the common and peaceful population, they are not Nazis who hide behind their own women and children.
MVitaly5 wrote: ↑Fri Sep 30, 2022 3:38 pmToday 4 more native Russian territories have returned home to their historic homeland!
To the powerless envy of fools, the beginning was laid in 2014, the return of Crimea, now 4 more territories, and then the rest will be returned!
And you, stupid trolls, keep envying, tear the hair out of your ass, and bang your stupid heads against the wall in powerless anger until your stupid forehead is broken!
Russia cannot be stopped, not by the Nazi political regimes, not by the stinking gay faggots from NATO in Russia's quest to regain what is hers by historical right!
Could someone give me an explanation for this? I am really just asking?
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Criticism of Putin and the government happens every single day on TV, radio and newspapers you stupid idiot. Russia, unlike gayropa and the US, has a free press. State money funded Ekho Moskvy radio and numerous journalists against the authorities.
Medvedev was supposed to have been important in setting up the liberast bullcrap TV station "Dozhd".
For 8 years the most vile anti-russian Ukrainian political commentators have been on federal TV channels talkshows every day.
Putin in his 2 big press conferences, call-in, that he had before the coronavirus, faces FAR more critical questions over those 5 or 6 hours than any Western leader faces over 5 years!
I don't even think most of the Moscow printed/circulated newspapers are "pro-Putin".
You are unbelievable dumb.
There's even been a stunning reversal of an old joke of the Soviet Union:
" In Russia, unlike America, I can criticise our elections", his American friend replies, "that's not true, in America I can also go out and criticise Russian elections"!!
The joke being about the crackdown on dissent over querying the truthfulness of results of the US Presidential elections
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Fuck off . Stop the war banner on TV and you are in trouble
Lying piece of shit
Lying piece of shit
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This has been one of the most embarrassingly one-sided wars in history, you buffoon.Blarit wrote: ↑Wed Oct 12, 2022 7:01 pmKeep dreaming.MVitaly5 wrote: ↑Wed Oct 12, 2022 3:07 pmRussia has already won this war!
It liberated and incorporated 4 territories larger than the entire territory of, for example, Hungary. Also Russia's population increased by more than 8 million people. And these territories are forever part of Russia and Russia will defend its sovereign territory by any means at its disposal. The West understands this very well, which is why the collective West and the puppet Nazi regime in Ukraine are hysterical right now after the referendums. And if Russia loses, there will be no winners either.
Russia is sustaining very minimal losses of heroic men, Ukraine is suffering catastrophic losses of men and equipment. You notice how the scumbag fake news western media has banned themselves over the 8 months from giving ANY figures for khokhol losses? Use that supposed brain of yours to query why - and understand further that everything being told to you by western media is a total lie.
Russia has restarted water supply to Crimea that the evil Nazis subhumans blocked, Russia has territorial control of the biggest nuclear power plant in Europe, one responsible for 25% of Ukraine electricity usage. Russia has full control of the Azov sea and can blockade the ukronazi part of the
Black Sea.
The 8 million means that Russia has, if not solved, then massively alleviated its demographic problems, while Ukraines demography is pretty much dead.
120000sq.km liberated of historic Russian lands (while fighting at huge numerical) is a spectacular feat.
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Biden doesn't have enough brains and space in his cheat sheet to answer so many questions. They even write in his cheat sheet how to enter the hall, how to stand in front of the podium, etc., like a robot.
Indeed, only Putin answers any questions from citizens and journalists for 5 or more hours twice a year. No other Western political leader practices anything like this. And many times I remember that Putin was asked very uncomfortable questions, and he always answered.
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That woman got banned from taking up a job in German media that she was originally offered, and of course from appearing ever on ukronazi TV. She worked for Perviy Kanal and faced no chance of going to jail for her stupidity - only a fine.
So the most she was actually journalistically repressed - was in Germany and Ukraine, LOL.
Before the war, there was scheduled a telethon "telemost" of Russian and Ukrainian channels celebrating the countries and promoting peace. The filthy scum ukronazi authorities obviously banned their side (that was willing to do it) from taking part.
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Sorry, didn't see your post right away.justask wrote: ↑Wed Oct 12, 2022 6:02 pm@Mvitaly5:
Could you still please explain how a 99% referendum is possible?
I understand, that you say, the people there love russia and wanted to be part of russia again and so on. But you still dont explain how can the 99% be legit?
The only times in history where i know of 99% votes in the WHOLE human history are in dictatorships.
For example while the nazi regime in Germany. They had also 99%-numbers. There a lot of people supported hitler, but they still faked to the "holy" 99%?
Or do you not think the 99% are legit (so were manipulated) and it doesnt matter as long as more than 50% voted?
Let's look into it in detail.
Let's take as an example the referendum held in the Donetsk People's Republic, which had the highest percentage in favor of joining Russia.
Let us begin with the organization of the referendum.
The referendum was held for 4 days from September 23 to September 27, 2022. This was done to ensure the safety of citizens, not to allow large gatherings of citizens in one place at one time. Because Donbas cities are constantly being bombed, there are constant terrorist acts against civilians. The first three days, there were exit polling stations for the election commission, which came to the adjoining areas, where people of the surrounding houses could vote . Those who were afraid to leave their homes at all, or those who were infirm, came in person to their homes. On the last day, September 27 the polling stations were already working, and those who did not have time to vote could come to the polling station. The entire electoral process was monitored by foreign citizens (journalists, diplomatic staff), who had the courage to come. It was not even because of the war, but because they were under enormous pressure in their own countries. For example, a German entrepreneur, who came to observe the referendum, had his accounts blocked in Germany. The authorities of the DPR allowed absolutely everyone who expressed a desire to come from foreign observers. But it is worth noting that not a single journalist from the Western media came.
Some information about the observers can be found here.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lgYqusaO2Gg
https://youtu.be/oA0WmCfZlDA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DLrn5GvxC7E
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AsOiF6x0FVk
https://youtu.be/UE2J0leMgdU
https://yandex.ru/video/preview/5695347400868438805
https://yandex.ru/video/preview/11308790787108660640
https://yandex.ru/video/preview/13938526059265792400
Now for the results.
According to the Central Election Commission of the DPR, turnout at the referendums in the DPR was 86.89%. According to the number of population it looks like this: 1 480 905 people voted in the Donetsk People's Republic during all this time. At foreign polling stations (refugees - DNR citizens in Russia) 411,962 people voted.
The total number of DPR citizens who lived within the borders controlled by the DPR authorities on the day of the referendums (having DPR citizenship), as well as those living in Russia, was estimated at slightly over 2 million people.
Further, elementary mathematical calculations, I hope you can do it yourself.
Due to the fact that the voter turnout was over 50%, the referendums were recognized as valid.
According to the results of the vote count, that of the people who voted (86.89%), 99.23% of the citizens who voted were in favor of becoming part of Russia.
Now, in answer to your specific question, why such a high percentage of those who voted in favor of becoming part of Russia. Actually, I have already said a lot before, about the kind of people who live in these territories and all the prerequisites that led to such a decision by the people. Further, the problem for many people, especially outside observers, is that they have absolutely no understanding of the difficult moral and psychological environment in which people live. People in these territories have been living under constant stress for more than 8 years, they are constantly forced to fight for their lives, and they dreamed that a strong country, let alone a home country like Russia, would finally take them under protection. Further, it should be taken into account that the people who wanted to vote for joining Russia, they showed this desire and strived for it in every possible way. Even if we imagine that some of the citizens of the DNR were against joining Russia (which I do not believe, knowing the situation), they simply did not vote at all. No one forced anyone to vote. Don't listen to Western lies. On the contrary, the excitement to vote was enormous. There were huge lines at the exit polling stations everywhere.
Understand, when the electoral process takes place in such an environment, it becomes much more important for many people than in ordinary peaceful life. Yes, in other regions, such as Kherson, which literally not long ago was still part of Ukraine, there were many more people who voted against it or didn't vote at all. This is understandable, people had a lot of ties to Ukraine, and it is a very difficult process to change your life so drastically. But as for the Dombass republics, I can assure you that the voting results there are absolutely fair, because they reflect all the pain and the hopes of the people who have suffered on these territories for eight years. And only the Ukrainian Nazi government is to blame.
I don't insult anyone first, and I'm always willing to have a discussion if the opponent is having one, not just trolling.
What don't you understand? Be more specific in your question.