RUSSIA - UKRAINE 2022 CONFLICT

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Pandora Papers: Ukraine leader seeks to justify offshore accounts

Files obtained by ICIJ claim Volodymyr Zelenskyy and his partners established a network of offshore companies in 2012.

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2021/10/ ... e-accounts

It urns out the comedian president zelensky is also an oligarch like all the "bad russian oligarchs". I don't understand why some west europeans think we shoud go to a 3.world war for such people.

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Всем, кого все таки интересует правда, а не ложь и манипуляции.
Вот ссылка на телеграм-канал, где выкладываются ролики на разных языках мира, о том что сейчас происходит на Украине, в частности живые свидетельства жителей Мариуполя, других городов Украины, пленных военных и другие факты.

Anyone who is still interested in the truth, rather than lies and manipulation.
Here is a link to a telegraph channel where videos are posted in different languages of the world about what is happening in Ukraine right now, in particular live testimonies from residents of Mariupol, other Ukrainian cities, captured soldiers and other facts.

https://t.me/s/video_languages

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Problem is on both side there are lies now and it's very hard to understand where is the truth.

Last night I was looking the leader of Azov bataillon on TV making an interview from the place supposed be surrondded by Russian army in Mariopol.
He was cool, speaking good and honestly I was thinking : "How this guy can be in a situation of death any second inside this place and do an interview" ???
How the communication between Ukrain and Occident can work so perfect ???
There are thing showed on TV every day which are out of any war logistic and application that NEVER before we have seen like that.
On french TV they show Mariopol has a city 90 % destroyed. I saw yesterday a video make by a reporter in live showing the harbour of Mariopol and house around with of course various place on fire and destroyed but I will say at 20 % and a lot of people trying take boat to escape the coming in of Russians !!!
So where is the truth ??? who lies ???

I say that really with a simple humans eyes without trying say Russian are not so bad and obviously I don't support their actions after so many people died but ... when I see such photo with Porno Dan going on the "middle of the war", I seriously wonder who can trust this guy for sure far to be a super hero will approach any bombing area especialy after you hear on TV Russians have used chimic material etc ???

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Seriously some people should stop such staging and stay home making a money transfert to the Red Cross but stop pretend every day they are there to save anyone when obviously they are far away from the front line and only try use this sad war to promote themselves !!!

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PIERRE WOODMAN wrote:
Sun May 01, 2022 7:17 am
Problem is on both side there are lies now and it's very hard to understand where is the truth.
You have to believe in logic and common sense.
Here, take it and form for yourself some logical basis. For example, Mariupol or other cities of Dombass. In 2014, Mariupol and other cities voted for self-determination from Ukraine. The resistance to the Ukrainian government, which came as a result of the coup d'état in Kiev, began. Mariupol, Sloviansk, Kramatorsk, and other major cities were occupied by Ukrainian troops, but the cities to the east (Donetsk, Lugansk, Gorlovka, Makeyevka, etc.), the Ukrainian army failed to capture. For the last 8 years Russia has been providing humanitarian aid to Donetsk, Luhansk and other cities in Dombass that were not occupied by Ukrainian troops. Why am I telling you this in detail? Understand, Russia considers these people in Dombass (Mariupol, Slavyansk, Kramatorsk, etc.) its own, while the Ukrainian regime does not! Logic should tell you who needed people in Dombass to die. Russia needs these Russian people! These cities in Dombass, it is Russia that will rebuild. And it already is. Now think about it, did Russia need to destroy the infrastructure of Dombass cities on purpose? Of course not! Ukrainian servicemen did not let people out of their homes on purpose, and covered their positions with these people. The evidence of this is overwhelming.

You know what pisses me off the most? It's the fact that it's the towns of Dombassia that are suffering now, the people of Dombassia and Ukrainian servicemen (not Nazis) who are dying. And Kiev and Western Ukraine, which is arranging all this in Dombass, or rather the criminal regime that is in power there, are having fun, hosting foreign delegations in Lviv, using electricity, Internet, cellular phone service, going to Europe under the guise of refugees. And Zelensky, or rather those Western handlers who decide everything in Ukraine, continue to send Ukrainian soldiers to the slaughter in Dombass, carefully concealing the huge losses from their public. You may consider me a cynic, but I am pissed off by the ceremoniousness and humanity of the Russian leadership towards Western and Central Ukraine. Ukraine. Of course, I am not talking about the extermination of people, that is not the point. I have all my relatives living in Khmelnitsky region. But, in my opinion, it was necessary to strike at least at the centers of decision-making in Ukraine long ago to drive this rat Zelensky back into the bunker.
PIERRE WOODMAN wrote:
Sun May 01, 2022 7:17 am
Last night I was looking the leader of Azov bataillon on TV making an interview from the place supposed be surrondded by Russian army in Mariopol.
He was cool, speaking good and honestly I was thinking : "How this guy can be in a situation of death any second inside this place and do an interview" ???
I don't know what kind of interview this is and when it was filmed. Please send me the link if you can. Now there are some Ukrainian servicemen and foreign mercenaries in the underground bunkers of the Azovstal plant, but they are tightly surrounded and blocked, so it is only a matter of time before they are destroyed or captured. They are constantly offered to surrender and save their lives, but via satellite communication they are constantly receiving commands from their patrons not to surrender, that help will come soon, thus dooming them to death.
PIERRE WOODMAN wrote:
Sun May 01, 2022 7:17 am
How the communication between Ukrain and Occident can work so perfect ???
There are thing showed on TV every day which are out of any war logistic and application that NEVER before we have seen like that.
On french TV they show Mariopol has a city 90 % destroyed. I saw yesterday a video make by a reporter in live showing the harbour of Mariopol and house around with of course various place on fire and destroyed but I will say at 20 % and a lot of people trying take boat to escape the coming in of Russians !!!
So where is the truth ??? who lies ???
The NATO bloc helps Ukraine with everything: satellite communications (Musk provided access to Starlink), various weapons, and most of all Russia itself with its already sugary humanity, which no one in Ukraine appreciates anyway.
Patience is running out, and it will only get worse from here. For everyone.

As for Mariupol, I already told you above. Decide for yourself who is lying and who is not. And, most importantly, who benefits from the lie. Logic and common sense are your help.
PIERRE WOODMAN wrote:
Sun May 01, 2022 7:17 am
I say that really with a simple humans eyes without trying say Russian are not so bad and obviously I don't support their actions after so many people died but ... when I see such photo with Porno Dan going on the "middle of the war", I seriously wonder who can trust this guy for sure far to be a super hero will approach any bombing area especialy after you hear on TV Russians have used chimic material etc ???
It's all about posing for the camera for your audience.
Most likely it is even Ukrainian military equipment smashed in the background.
The harsh truth is that the situation of the Ukrainian army in Dombass is critical.

The Russian Army has no chemical weapons!
In 2017, Russia destroyed all of its stockpiles of chemical weapons. Everyone has acknowledged this: the Organization for the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons (OPCW) and even the USA. The USA, by the way, did not destroy its stockpiles of chemical weapons.
So all these speculations about Russia's use of chemical weapons are just another lie.
PIERRE WOODMAN wrote:
Sun May 01, 2022 7:17 am
Seriously some people should stop such staging and stay home making a money transfert to the Red Cross but stop pretend every day they are there to save anyone when obviously they are far away from the front line and only try use this sad war to promote themselves !!!
The Red Cross?
This organization, which wanted, under the pretext of humanitarian, medical assistance, to remove foreign mercenaries from Azovstal, instead of detained civilians?
You mean this Red Cross? Mmmmm...

This OSCE mission, which was supposed to regulate the peaceful existence in Dombass since 2014, has been all 8 years, found to be working for the Ukrainian regime and NATO. The evidence for this has already been presented.

You're right, you can't trust anyone right now! And I would add that organizations that are somehow controlled by Western institutions cannot be trusted.

Actually, once again we are back to what I wished you.
Trust logic and common sense!

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Kopf wrote:
Sun May 01, 2022 6:33 am
It urns out the comedian president zelensky is also an oligarch like all the "bad russian oligarchs". I don't understand why some west europeans think we shoud go to a 3.world war for such people.
and what about the normal people there?

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there is always a war somewhere in the world going on - many times by the USA - so why shoud we now start a 3. world war?

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Apollo13 wrote:
Sun May 01, 2022 9:34 am
and what about the normal people there?
lol which one?

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Kopf wrote:
Sun May 01, 2022 9:37 am
there is always a war somewhere in the world going on - many times by the USA - so why shoud we now start a 3. world war?
the SU/ Russia started or participated in enough wars too...

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MVitaly5 wrote:
Sat Apr 30, 2022 8:32 pm
doxxx wrote:
Sat Apr 30, 2022 7:26 pm
For those who have not listened to it, this is the "anthem" of the Ukrainian resistance
Unfortunately, no one gives this young fool any information about how many of their "brave soldiers" won't be coming home. Their criminal leadership is driving them to Dombass, just to slaughter them like pigs. The aviation is destroying all the lines of the Ukrainian troops, simply burying them in the ground. Now, judging by the documents found with the AFU soldiers, reservists from Western Ukraine, who do not even have combat experience, are being killed and captured. Just yesterday, in one of the military video reports, a line of Ukrainian troops was occupied. At 100 meters - 100 corpses, after an air strike. It's scary to watch. All this is sad, and Ukrainian residents know nothing about it, but they sing silly hymns. The most combat-ready military units of Ukraine have already been destroyed in Mariupol, now the Dombasskaya grouping is being methodically dismantled, and reservists are still arriving there for slaughter. The count of irretrievable losses of the Ukrainian army goes to 50,000+. And this is only verified data, and no one even counts how many more are missing, wounded and taken prisoner.

doxxx and personally for you, I will say that it is people like you who provoke all this senseless hatred that is currently going on between Russia and Ukraine. That is why you are the main culprit for the deaths of tens of thousands of Ukrainian servicemen.

But how dare you frustrated wanker? but where do you draw these conclusions? but above all is it remarkably simple for a time waster like you who spends hours writing offending people for no reason? I give you some advice: enjoy porn and stop playing the champion behind a smelly keyboard

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