Chinatown wrote:
It's the same in europe, I would even say 99% are escorting or have been escort. Some girls just do few scenes in their career to get more exposure and higher rates for their escort job.

A good proportion of the top girls escort after a few years in the business because they know their notoriety will bring them a lot of money. And yes a bunch of "unknow" girls make a few scenes to boost their escorting career which is really their main focus. But the majority of girls who make porn never appear on escorting sites. Just take 100 random girls on this site or on EBI and check if they do escort and you'll see the real proportion.

Also another reason is nowadays its not easy for a pornstar to get a living just by doing porn.
I a regular escort client and met some very famous porsntars, and girl told me that she can charge 2000€/scene just for classic B/G scene and if she was able to get shooting every week she would continue porn but if it's only sometimes she cant live like that. So she prefers escorting and have regular income

Unless you fucked Aletta, divide that number by 2 (more like 3) at least.

Karmafan wrote:For years Sensual Jane, Jasmine Black, Kristi Klenot, Aletta Ocean, Sandra Romain, and Alice Romain are regularly on escort sites constantly working in Dubai, London or Prague (in addition to porn). You would think their pussies would be worn out by now.

Most porn girls who do tour only work one or 2 weeks every other month. Nothing to do with FKK girls who 2 or 3 months non stop (although Pierre will say that anyway their pussy smell rubber in the chapter of his book titled "how to spot a whore by smelling her pussy").

K1000 wrote: A good proportion of the top girls escort after a few years in the business because they know their notoriety will bring them a lot of money. And yes a bunch of "unknow" girls make a few scenes to boost their escorting career which is really their main focus. But the majority of girls who make porn never appear on escorting sites. Just take 100 random girls on this site or on EBI and check if they do escort and you'll see the real proportion.

Well, I will just speak for myself, if I look at today's first 3 page of woodman girls,
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I have fucked Lynna nilsson, gina gershon , lolly gartner , angel hott , azure storm , jasmine jae , cayenne klein.
Thats' a lot based just on random list picked here,considering Im limited to booking in France and UK mostly, if I were able to meet girls in east europe Im pretty sure I would have fucked at least half of the girls of the first 3 page.
Even girls like silvie deluxe which is a stunning beauty is escorting !
Also many actress are using fake profile because they dont want others to know it, like angelina love for example

Unless you fucked Aletta, divide that number by 2 (more like 3) at least.

Yes Aletta ocean and Black angelika are charging this amount for a scene, at least it's what they told me.
But anyway many european actress earn only about 500€/scene so it's impossible for them to earn a living only by doing porn nowadays.

Chinatown wrote: Well, I will just speak for myself, if I look at today's first 3 page of woodman girls,
girls/
I have fucked Lynna nilsson, gina gershon , lolly gartner , angel hott , azure storm , jasmine jae , cayenne klein.

Kudos to you but that's 10%, far from 99%.

Thats' a lot based just on random list picked here,considering Im limited to booking in France and UK mostly,

London is the capital of the pornscort business. So being there is not really limiting, on the contrary.

if I were able to meet girls in east europe Im pretty sure I would have fucked at least half of the girls of the first 3 page.

That's pure speculation. I don't see any big Budapest escort agencies anouncing those 35 girls, just the usual suspects, always the same girls.

Even girls like silvie deluxe which is a stunning beauty is escorting !
Also many actress are using fake profile because they dont want others to know it, like angelina love for example

They might use fake name, but they always use real photos, as selling the PSE will make them earn more money. So they don't really hide.

Yes Aletta ocean and Black angelika are charging this amount for a scene, at least it's what they told me. But anyway many european actress earn only about 500€/scene so it's impossible for them to earn a living only by doing porn nowadays.

I'm certainly not saying all is pink but at 2 scenes a week for a rookie, it's 4000€ per month. How much do they have to make to earn a living ? Most of them live in fucking Hungary (and I say that in a nice way) not the center of London! And I'm not talking about the romanians... After 2 years, when they have shot for all the studios and made all the type of scenes, I understand it's harder to find scenes, but during those 2 years, it's not that bad.

Chinatown, have you fucked Nikky Andersson and Lucy Lee (Czech)?

Yes it's only 10% but just for girls I have fucked, and considering I have limited money and Im looking only for girls I really like. It's absolutely not representative of the proportion of actress who are escorting.
What I wanted to sayis that if an average joe like me got this 10% , you can imagine the real proportion of pornstar escort.

London is a capital for escort business but many actress dont come here because the life is so expensive there, it's more profitable for them to charge 200€/H in budapest for example than 300£ in london. There is plenty of reliable pornstar escort agency on romania , hungary ,czech but they do only local escort.

And you are wrong, there is many girls using fake name AND photos, especially for girls that have stopped porn for long time, they often have new life or they tell their family they totally quit the sex business so they dont want anyone to know they are still escorting from time to time.
Angelina Love used fake photos and name, I was surprised to see her ( BTW she is absolutely awfull as anescort) , same for girls like Bijou , Lucy belle I have met them with a fake profile/photo.

As for earning a living you forget something, they wont be shooting 2 scenes every week . Maybe at the beginning they will have lot of shooting, but it will decrease.
It's not like they can get 2 scenes or even 1 scene every week for 30-40 years like a normal person with a normal job.
Let's say she can shoot 100 scenes in 2 years, that's already a lot , but then what happen ? In porn business we always want new fresh face , they will have less and less shooting until they are almost jobless, most of them cant rely on their actress career.

I think some girls like Aletta Ocean or Sensual Jane have a plan to do all the porn and escort they possibly can in a few years and then retire comfortably for the rest of their lives.

Chinatown wrote:Yes it's only 10% but just for girls I have fucked, and considering I have limited money and Im looking only for girls I really like. It's absolutely not representative of the proportion of actress who are escorting. What I wanted to sayis that if an average joe like me got this 10% , you can imagine the real proportion of pornstar escort.

I'm not saying that pornstars don't escort (in fact I've been acused a few time to promote escorting on this site). I'm only saying the propotion is nowhere near 99% like you were saying. I'd say 25% to 30% at best (whish is already a _lot_). Speculating that the number is higher is just that.

London is a capital for escort business but many actress dont come here because the life is so expensive there, it's more profitable for them to charge 200€/H in budapest for example than 300£ in london. There is plenty of reliable pornstar escort agency on romania , hungary ,czech but they do only local escort.

There are no customers in Budapest. The money is in Swizerland and London. The girls go make tour where the money is. And "pornstar escort agency that only do local escort", what shit is that ? You think there are enough bankers in Budapest to make pornscort business viable ?

And you are wrong, there is many girls using fake name AND photos, especially for girls that have stopped porn for long time, they often have new life or they tell their family they totally quit the sex business so they dont want anyone to know they are still escorting from time to time.
Angelina Love used fake photos and name, I was surprised to see her ( BTW she is absolutely awfull as anescort) , same for girls like Bijou , Lucy belle I have met them with a fake profile/photo.

Angelina Love uses a fake profile because she has a shit reputation and nobody will want to book her after googling her name. Lucy Belle and Bijou have been on escorting sites for years, and still are.

As for earning a living you forget something, they wont be shooting 2 scenes every week . Maybe at the beginning they will have lot of shooting, but it will decrease. It's not like they can get 2 scenes or even 1 scene every week for 30-40 years like a normal person with a normal job.
Let's say she can shoot 100 scenes in 2 years, that's already a lot , but then what happen ? In porn business we always want new fresh face , they will have less and less shooting until they are almost jobless, most of them cant rely on their actress career.

That's why I was talking about the rookies. 100 scenes in 2 years is not a lot for a beginner if she's serious. For the likes of Aletta, Donna Bell, or Black Angelika, porn is no more an option to fullfill their needs but a porn debutante can make enough money through porn to live a good life for a bunch of years.

Meant 200 scenes in 2 years

Well I can tell you that you are wrong for budapest, I know there is lot of people who often go there to fuck pornstars.
It's a good deal for them for western european to go there and fuck several actress on a week end.
For the girls it' also better because they are settle down there, they dont have hotel, travel cost.
Silvie deluxe for example isnt touring in big cities even if she could easily charge twice the price she is asking, she is only escorting in a kind of FKK in austria, she works there maybe 1 week every 2 month.
Bijou and lucy belle are on some escort agency but they are also using fake profile, that's how I met them both.

There isnt much girls who are shooting hundreds of scenes nowadays, unless she really has something special, but anyway even if a girl works a lot she may earn 30-40K/year , thats great but she will have a short career, that's not enough.
They all must do some extra to earn enough money in a short time, escorting, cam girls, becoming an "agent" and introduce new girls to producers ....

Chinatown wrote:Well I can tell you that you are wrong for budapest, I know there is lot of people who often go there to fuck pornstars. It's a good deal for them for western european to go there and fuck several actress on a week end.
For the girls it' also better because they are settle down there, they dont have hotel, travel cost.

I've been to Hungary at least 15 times in the last 3 years. I know a little bit how it works too, köszi.

Silvie deluxe for example isnt touring in big cities even if she could easily charge twice the price she is asking, she is only escorting in a kind of FKK in austria, she works there maybe 1 week every 2 month.

TPB is not an FKK but a studio which is completely different (I've been there). And if the pornscort business was so good in Budapest/Prague, why would Sylvie Deluxe (and other pornscorts) have to go working in a studio for 140€ for half an hour (OK the girls keep the extras so it's not as bad as it seems, but still) ?

There isnt much girls who are shooting hundreds of scenes nowadays, unless she really has something special, but anyway even if a girl works a lot she may earn 30-40K/year , thats great but she will have a short career, that's not enough.
They all must do some extra to earn enough money in a short time, escorting, cam girls, becoming an "agent" and introduce new girls to producers ....

Or they can just enjoy their 2 years of pornstar life and then move on to something else. Not every porn girl is ready to become an prostitute.