Pierre, we agree that American girls are terrible. But are they good at sex? There are two competing theories:

1. American girls are hypocrites. Although they claim to be "pure" and "Christian" and "chaste," they watch "Sex and the City," love sex, treat sex as competition, and are quite skilled at sex.

2. Although American girls are whores, they are terrible at sex like they are everything else.

My vote is for #2, but Pierre, you have experience with girls from all over the planet. Please help me out!

I had sex with some incroyable american girls but the problem with them is always the same, difficult to know if they are true or just play... They are the world champion of the "fake" in many domain but sex is the first ...
Also if we speak about US porn stars, the fact many of them are using cocaïne and many kind of other stupid product, make them overspeed and full of strange reaction.
When I was in fashion, the american was also complicate ones, I was always taking care of every words I said, every act I did, etc... it's very boring !!!
I think Russians are the easiest girls on earth about sex, rarely complicated and mostly always happy to fuck three times a day if you want !!! The dream...

PW

Terrible - maybe from the porn industry's point of view, because girls from the US are expensive (usually depends on the GDP of the given country). Otherwise there are many beautiful girls there as well (not in such proportions as for example in eastern European countries), especially the ones of Irish, German and eastern European descent.

And of course Russia is the favorite part of the world for porn producers: since girls are abundant, cheap and they are generally accustomed to being treated as objects (comes from "culture" I guess).

Atisz wrote:Terrible - maybe from the porn industry's point of view, because girls from the US are expensive (usually depends on the GDP of the given country). Otherwise there are many beautiful girls there as well (not in such proportions as for example in eastern European countries), especially the ones of Irish, German and eastern European descent.

And of course Russia is the favorite part of the world for porn producers: since girls are abundant, cheap and they are generally accustomed to being treated as objects (comes from "culture" I guess).

Atisz, I think Pierre speaks as a normal guy and not as a porn producer. I must say that American girls come mostly in two sizes, either beautiful or ugly and most of the time the beautiful are in shape, take care of themselves (tanned, white perfect teeth) and have a high sense of fashion, whereas their eastern European counterparts are still brute diamonds (you can notice that on Pierre's videos, plenty of girls look very pretty on the casting, but they have either bad makeup or shitty hair or are somewhat pale, etc. Pierre makes some little corrections and they look astonishing on the hardcore scenes).

You show a poor understanding of their cultures as well. Probably you have never been abroad, but you should know that due to communism (where all women worked) most Eastern European girls are more independent, dominant and open minded than their American peers. So saying "accustomed to being treated as objects" is completely false and even ignorant.

Of course it plays a major role that the wages are lower in those countries as in the US, but you should know the huge hassle it represents to bring a Russian girl to the US for work. It costs more than the price of the scene, so why bring them to American productions? because the public demands it...

Also on a side note, how can you explain the dominancy of Eastern European girls in as runaway models?

Well, i can give my point of view as for "girls-objects", sometimes its more about
girls from some parts of Caucasus in Russia, more muslimic traditions, where the most popular phrase is "Молчи, женщина!" or "be silent, woman!".

Otherwise its hard to analyze why girls from eastern europe dominate, i think there are plenty of reasons - historical, cultural, political and so. Also i know that in Czech Rep. for example its still a dream for many girls to work in fashion or soft, to become famous and to "go to the west". Its just a flashback from 90-ies, when it was the real goal (not dream) for many girls. Its still alive.

toi wrote:

Atisz wrote:Terrible - maybe from the porn industry's point of view, because girls from the US are expensive (usually depends on the GDP of the given country). Otherwise there are many beautiful girls there as well (not in such proportions as for example in eastern European countries), especially the ones of Irish, German and eastern European descent.

And of course Russia is the favorite part of the world for porn producers: since girls are abundant, cheap and they are generally accustomed to being treated as objects (comes from "culture" I guess).

Atisz, I think Pierre speaks as a normal guy and not as a porn producer. I must say that American girls come mostly in two sizes, either beautiful or ugly and most of the time the beautiful are in shape, take care of themselves (tanned, white perfect teeth) and have a high sense of fashion, whereas their eastern European counterparts are still brute diamonds (you can notice that on Pierre's videos, plenty of girls look very pretty on the casting, but they have either bad makeup or shitty hair or are somewhat pale, etc. Pierre makes some little corrections and they look astonishing on the hardcore scenes).

You show a poor understanding of their cultures as well. Probably you have never been abroad, but you should know that due to communism (where all women worked) most Eastern European girls are more independent, dominant and open minded than their American peers. So saying "accustomed to being treated as objects" is completely false and even ignorant.

Of course it plays a major role that the wages are lower in those countries as in the US, but you should know the huge hassle it represents to bring a Russian girl to the US for work. It costs more than the price of the scene, so why bring them to American productions? because the public demands it...

Also on a side note, how can you explain the dominancy of Eastern European girls in as runaway models?

There are some factual errors in what you've written - please read my comment again.

First of all you are the one who cathegorized American girls into 2 groups (which I think is quite false). Let me remind you that the US is probably the most diverse country in the world, you can find all kinds of people there. I understand that you meant the majority by this, but it's still too vague to put it like that.

Secondly, the girls (and I mean most of them) who go to these so called "castings" and agree to participate in porn are mostly desperate and are quite badly off. So logically it's not likely they are going to spend a lot of money on makeup, right?

Thirdly, I live in an eastern European country and also have been to quite a lot of countries (including the US), so your assumption is incorrect. I probably know a lot more about communism, than you and one thing I can tell you: it didn't make people "independent, dominant and open minded". Quite the opposite to be exact.
If you mentioned it in correlation with the loss of morals, then I would have agreed with you. And being open minded does not equal being poor and doing things you might regret later.

Fouthly, maybe you didn't pay attention. I said: "Russia is the favorite part of the world for porn producers: since girls (...) are generally accustomed to being treated as objects" not eastern European girls as a whole (actually that's a typical mistake western Europeans used to make - they think about Eastern Europe as whole block, not several, diverse and generally quite different nations).
And as you can see, Taurus can affirm this (it might seem ignorant, but it's still true).

And at last, most of the times girls aren't taken to the US, they shoot the sessions in eastern-central Europe. When they pay the airplane tickets for a girl, you can be sure that it's not because of a single occasion (the girl is probably about to stay there for a longer period). Americans might be rich, but they aren't stupid (at least most of them aren't).

For your last question I can only guess: poverty and desperation.

I hope I was able to clear up a few things for you.

Here is a comment of an expert supporting my point of view:

Alena Heitlinger, Professor of Sociology from Trent University, Canada who is doing research on women in Central Europe, came to the conclusion, which I strongly support, that woman's role in the society traditionally was quite strong. "Far from regarding men as strong and powerful, many Czech women see them as "wimps". As Hauserova, a Czech feminist (n.d., 2) wrote, that Czech women "really rule families. Exclusively women educate boys at least to the age of 14 or 15, so they are used to authoritative females, and as partners they incline to be submissive. Czechoslovak men are not 'macho' at all, they are gentle, indecisive, passive, and sometimes sort of apathetic."

...women in post Communist countries did not reject sexual harassment so sensitively, they were quite happy to hear that they look pretty even if sometimes the way, how it was expressed would be considered as not "politically correct."

Alena Heitlinger concludes "They regard themselves as strong women rather than victims; assign highly positive meaning to motherhood and the family, and reject feminism's anti-male bias."

Toi was right about my comment, I was speaking about women not like a porn producer but like a man who started to know american girls in the fashion industry when I was a fashion photographer !!!
Even if for instance Megan Fox can be one of my actual favorite girl on earth, I'm ready to bet my balls that she's a girl I will never bring in hollidays with me ! Why ?
Because she's american !!! And one american is the number one on earth for complicate life, difficult acceptation of another point of view, ego, narcissism etc...
One Russian, one Czech, one Thaï, one Brazilian and many other ones are funny, enjoying every second of the life and ready to speak normaly.
This is my point of view, and believe me I've crossed few women worlwide...

PW

Pierre, you forgot to mention American girls' stupidity. And also, it is impossible to have a conversation with them. I have more meaningful conversations with women whose second or third language is English (and their vocabulary is often better!).

It's exactly what I mean when I said it's impossible to have a normal discussion !!!

PW