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Circus forum bullshit infos:

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the section of distorted information by Mr Ananas for all those who have brains of goats and are ready to believe these bastards.
Pierre has said several times here that this guy is a friend / business partner of Pacaud and obviously just like the company boss he puts the responsibility of the NYT article on Pierre Woodman's head.

but frankly they just think that people jerking off on their videos are just stupid or are they themselves?

I'm one of those idiots who once paid for their site and I really know the difference between their work and Woodman's.
these people don't do porn, they're butchers!

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Thanks you, what you said is right, and I am sure a lot of people will agree with you.

I can add the following points:

- Who is the No. 1 in worldwide internet porn piracy ? Woodman ?

Not me, not even Pornhub but WGCZ yes, with Xvideos and XNXX

- Is there underage girl been to police to say she see her on any of Pierre Woodman site ?

NO !!! But Xvideos and Pornhub YES !

- Did you read once on the net any girl who said she ended in emergency after a shoot with me ???

NO !!! But Twitter and Instagram have a lot of girls complaining about serious injuries, even operation to take off plastic balls inside her body ( Nicole Love ) and many other physical problem NEVER happened during my productions.
And no need to mention all girls who complained about LP / ANALVIDS during my interviews. Pacaud love pretends I paid them for that which is ridiculous considering I do not cut when some girls are speaking in a good way about them ( it's rare but there are ). Also paid someone to shut is mouth when we deal with porn girls or boy is a mega stupid mistake, Nicole Love got money in exchange of her silence, it's on paper signed but anyway all porn industry know the story ...
If I have had spend a single euro on a girl to say shit about them it's long time this "song" will be in all heads but everyone can see ONLY Pacaud pretend that because he wants justified a true fact as a "BIG LIE" build by Woodman.

- Who has numerous times performers on set with syphilis and even request not say it to no one ??? Woodman ??? Brazzer ???

NO !!! Just GTFlix.TV the company owning Legal Porno and belonging to WGCZ !!! I prooved twice Mike Angelo was syphilis positive ( he confirmed himself on video posted on twitter ). Also the original blood test positive of Mina K and Timea Bella have been found even if they hidden it for a month on request of LP team. And who still wrote on Twitter during the syphilis outbreaks " No need to stop shooting ???" LOL Mr Giorgio Grandi working also for this marvelous people who don't care of anything and for sure not people health. They also did shoot with 10 people in same room during Covid restriction !!!
I was able proove it easily as some girls put it on Twitter !!!

- Who speak about wife and daughter as prostitutes ( with photos and work adress + my personal adress ) on his forum, able also to pretend I am : Pedophile, homosexual, scatophile, zoophile, rapist, murderer, using underage on my site, etc ...

Mr PACAUD himself on his forum but also on Xvideos twitter accound ( 600 000 followers ). Yeah "la classe" this man.
I never said anything like that about him, or any of his crew members and I think using wife and child to fight is just one of the lowest thing an human been can do !!!

- So now I am supposed be the man who has oriented Nicholas Kristof the journalist of the New York Times to make an article about Xvideos ???

As Nick said in the article, yes I contacted him to say I was not happy that only Pornhub get troubles considering they are babies in term of bad actions in comparison of Xvideos/XNXX and Legal Porno and if Pornhub fall down because of him he will become Santa Claus for Pacaud which is 100 % the truth. So Nick started investigations, asking me questions but also to MANY porn industry people, even to this lobotomised brain of Robin Reid who published the question on Pornbox forum.
So at the end what do we have ???

An honest journalist having prooved his integrity because he refused 95 % of what I told him considering I have a personal reason to speak bad about Pacaud. He even refused to speak about various EVIDENCES just in order not been accused of collusion with me !!! I must said I was very disappointed and frustrated for that but at same time I understand it because another journalist, french this one did the same. ( Czech journalists started burn WGCZ image in Czech Republic without even they know my name )
Also Pacaud has infinite money possibilties and spend mountain of euros in lawyers against me already to try shut me down.
He failed until now but this month will be the EUROPEAN COURT to decide about breaking or not the french court result making me winner and also the final round in Hungary will be this month.
Of course this is something who can scare journalist and Pacaud knows that very well ... but I'm not scared of him and even if one day I'll maybe ended with a bullet in the head, I don't care, I'll fight with my heart until my last breath against this category of people cleaning their dirty money got from the piracy breaking the souls of young women ( even minors watching the tubes or been on it after porn revenge etc ) without any mercy and not hesitating to attack my own children to justify his wickedness.

Mr Ananas can be proud overseas having such great europeans friends !!!

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I stand by every word I wrote.

Kristof refuses to address the systemic origin of this problem, preferring to single out specific companies instead because it’s easier for the masses to grasp, but that approach will not solve anything. Nowhere does he mention anything about the fact that most illicit sexual content (revenge porn, rape videos, child sex imagery, etc. whatever you want to call it) is traded through non-pornographic social media platforms like Snapchat, Facebook, and Instagram. So given that fact, how does sanctioning random tube sites do anything to solve this? Taking down Pornhub or Xvideos will only result in other platforms replacing them in short order and will do nothing address the root of the problem at all.

There’s a very interesting discussion here regarding liability exemptions for user-submitted content on the Internet (e.g. Section 230), but nobody seems to be interested in talking about that even though, when you boil it down, it is in fact the actual root of the problem.

The modern Internet only exists, and only can exist, thanks to legal protections (like the U.S.’s “Section 230” provision) which make tech companies non-liable for user-generated content. Quite simply, these protections are what makes free speech in cyberspace possible, and without them, the Internet would be a much more centralized (and censored) place as media giants would consolidate their power and influence over the most heavily-trafficked sites and muscle out all competition. Is that what anyone here wants to happen? We saw what happened earlier this year when Amazon Web Services revoked hosting services for Parler, a conservative social media network that was supposedly too dangerous to exist during the U.S. Capitol riots. Whether you agree or disagree with Trump or what happened on that day, there was a clear political motive behind that action, and that happened with Section 230 fully in place. Can you imagine what tech companies would be compelled to censor without it?

So, we should all want those protections to stay in place. Section 230 is important and vital to the functioning of the modern Internet. Taking it away would remove the ability of common people to communicate freely through the global connectivity of the Internet.

However, illicit sexual imagery on the Internet is a problem. In fact, it’s a pretty huge problem. There are moral guardians growing rapidly in numbers (thanks to #MeToo, IMO) who want to stop the spread of this imagery on the Internet, which is a noble goal in and of itself, but they are being weaponized as useful idiots by parties such as the New York Times (and the rest of mainstream media) who are heavily invested in ending legal protection for tech companies - NOT for moralistic reasons - but because they want to take away free speech on the Internet and regain the control of the narrative that they had before the Internet existed. These parties are well-organized, well-funded, and very, very powerful, which is why I believe the porn industry needs to become much more proactive in its efforts to police itself and monitor illicit sexual content on user-generated platforms.

We need to change how these platforms work before the government steps in and either regulates the porn industry or rescinds Section 230 entirely.

Xvideos is not the problem. Xvideos does a lot to monitor and remove illicit sexual content on its platform, as did Pornhub before it, and they are simply playing by the rules society has set for them. If you were to take them out, others would replace them quickly. They are not actually breaking any laws with respect to this and they dedicate a lot of resources to keeping their platforms clean.

But it’s still not enough.

We need to change the rules… without changing Section 230.

So, how do we do this?

One solution is for the government to enforce the laws that already exist, and have existed for decades, regarding mandatory record-keeping for producers of adult content. Here’s the problem: Nobody ever checks these records. My question is, why the hell not? They should be spot-checking these things all the time. Otherwise, why do they even exist? Why do content producers have to devote so much time and energy to keeping them?

Another solution is for the industry to regulate itself and voluntarily begin maintaining 2257 records for all content hosted on user-generated platforms, even though they are under no legal obligation to do so. (It is actually the producer’s responsibility to maintain these records. Hosting platforms are not producers, so they are under no obligation to keep them. They only have to be able to direct you someone who does keep them, e.g. a custodian of records. Section 230 completes the loop and renders them non-liable for any illicit content uploaded by users.)

A third solution is for 2257 itself to change, via an amendment, to force hosting platforms to maintain records alongside the producers, although this becomes murky as it may conflict with Section 230 and step on the toes of the First Amendment. (2257 is already controversial for this reason and has even been declared partially unconstitutional.)

These are just some ideas I came up with while writing this. I’m not saying all of them are good, and I am not an expert in this field, but this is the discussion we should be having instead of trying to deplatform rivals or pitting members of the industry against each other. This is a new and complicated problem that we’re all trying to solve, and we’re fumbling in the dark because nobody is really sure what to do about it, but the intent to solve the problem on both sides is self-evident. It’s simply not working.

It’s worth noting that I’m trying to look at this situation realistically. I’m not necessarily a great fan of 2257, but it was deemed necessary once before as a measure of control over our industry. 2257 was the bitter pill the industry swallowed to avoid the iron fist of censorship and government regulation. Maybe it can serve that purpose again.

One thing’s for sure, this isn’t going to just go away, and we need to be realistic about the health of the industry as a whole instead of dying on the “free speech” hill to the point that we invite moral guardians to take us down.

Okay, that’s all I’ve got for now. I wonder how many people here actually want to discuss these points.

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I could agree with 80 % of what you wrote but the problem you are part of WGCZ and not able to be 100 % honest. It's sad !!!
Xvideos is not the problem. Xvideos does a lot to monitor and remove illicit sexual content on its platform, as did Pornhub before it, and they are simply playing by the rules society has set for them.
Write this is just a fucking lie !!!
THE ONE AND ONLY PLACE ON THIS PLANET WHO HAS EXPOSED MY DAUGHTER WHEN SHE WAS 15 YEARS OLD AND PUT HER PICTURE WITH HER WORK PLACE AND ADRESS ON A PORN FORUM WAS OWNED BY WGCZ property of your friend Stephane Pacaud.
I have had to go to police and make a huge mess to get the chance they take it off after two weeks only even I send direct email to Robert William Seifert, sms to Petra the production director and Pacaud himself but no one answered and did not erase anything. It's only after the police gave a phone call to DDF office in Budapest that curiously one hour after the post about my daughter disappeared !!!
But since 5 years my wife 30th birthday pictures are on WGCZ ( pornbox forum ) exposing her as a prostitute organising jobs to girls for Dubai. One of the girls on the picture is a family members and ... 16 years old on the photo.
So go to fuck yourself with your nice words written in lawyer version of the club, you are all a bag of thugs at WGCZ trying to pretend otherwise.
There is no compassion in your post for those who are victims of the actions of this monster that is Pacaud, not a word from you to admit that he has been doing dishonest things for more than 20 years stealing content for adult and giving it for free on the net which allow children to see sexual acts. You agree with all this company is !!!
Of course Facebook, Snapchat etc ... are doing unclear things, but that I know of no one other than this bandit group from WGCZ exposed my family and endangered my family !!!
And in any case you mention Mindgeek ( Pornhub ) for which I have no respect when it comes to piracy and exposition of sex act to minors, but they NEVER published image of my family and exposed/put in danger any member of my family.
Also in 30 years of porn I never listened a girl telling me she went to hospital aftyer a shootting for Brazzer or any Mindgeek films companies, but I heard front of my camera/read on social, every week since 2012, girls complaining about the rudeness of people at Legal Porno studio that was obliged change their name after so many scandals.
And don't say the New York Times did wrong, because since that article the way the job is done for the Pornbox various studios is totally different. Since three months girls don't really complain anymore and they start be more carreful about what is going on. I hope it's not just for a short period until all become calm but anyway it's a first step to be a "normal" competitors and it's all everyone wish in our industry even if until the company on behalf of WGCZ are using the money from piracy to produce their contents !!!

WGCZ a music company !!! :lol: :lol: :lol:

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But you'll see one day Pacaud will have to pay for his behavior ...

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PIERRE WOODMAN wrote:
Sat Jun 12, 2021 4:56 am
but I heard front of my camera/read on social, every week since 2012, girls complaining about the rudeness of people at Legal Porno studio
Yes, but even if we explain to those girls what it's going to happen on LP set when we meet them first, they're still going, you know that, so maybe there's also some models who play "drama queen" and who are just after Pacaud's money

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It has no sens what you said ...

When a girl say front of my camera she got this or that on LP set, it's the best way never get anymore any money from Pacaud.
But curiously when a girl write on their forum something very bad like did Florane Russell, yes she got a " new job" as director for the company and from a good friend of mine start say bad things about me !!! :lol: :lol: :lol:

Anyway, today I see and hear many things have changed, so let it be like that and expect they keep a better way to shoot from them ...

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I could agree with 80 % of what you wrote but the problem you are part of WGCZ and not able to be 100 % honest. It's sad !!!
Xvideos is not the problem. Xvideos does a lot to monitor and remove illicit sexual content on its platform, as did Pornhub before it, and they are simply playing by the rules society has set for them.
Write this is just a fucking lie !!!
THE ONE AND ONLY PLACE ON THIS PLANET WHO HAS EXPOSED MY DAUGHTER WHEN SHE WAS 15 YEARS OLD AND PUT HER PICTURE WITH HER WORK PLACE AND ADRESS ON A PORN FORUM WAS OWNED BY WGCZ property of your friend Stephane Pacaud.
I have had to go to police and make a huge mess to get the chance they take it off after two weeks only even I send direct email to Robert William Seifert, sms to Petra the production director and Pacaud himself but no one answered and did not erase anything. It's only after the police gave a phone call to DDF office in Budapest that curiously one hour after the post about my daughter disappeared !!!
But since 5 years my wife 30th birthday pictures are on WGCZ ( pornbox forum ) exposing her as a prostitute organising jobs to girls for Dubai. One of the girls on the picture is a family members and ... 16 years old on the photo.
So go to fuck yourself with your nice words written in lawyer version of the club, you are all a bag of thugs at WGCZ trying to pretend otherwise.
There is no compassion in your post for those who are victims of the actions of this monster that is Pacaud, not a word from you to admit that he has been doing dishonest things for more than 20 years stealing content for adult and giving it for free on the net which allow children to see sexual acts. You agree with all this company is !!!
Of course Facebook, Snapchat etc ... are doing unclear things, but that I know of no one other than this bandit group from WGCZ exposed my family and endangered my family !!!
And in any case you mention Mindgeek ( Pornhub ) for which I have no respect when it comes to piracy and exposition of sex act to minors, but they NEVER published image of my family and exposed/put in danger any member of my family.
Also in 30 years of porn I never listened a girl telling me she went to hospital aftyer a shootting for Brazzer or any Mindgeek films companies, but I heard front of my camera/read on social, every week since 2012, girls complaining about the rudeness of people at Legal Porno studio that was obliged change their name after so many scandals.
And don't say the New York Times did wrong, because since that article the way the job is done for the Pornbox various studios is totally different. Since three months girls don't really complain anymore and they start be more carreful about what is going on. I hope it's not just for a short period until all become calm but anyway it's a first step to be a "normal" competitors and it's all everyone wish in our industry even if until the company on behalf of WGCZ are using the money from piracy to produce their contents !!!

WGCZ a music company !!! :lol: :lol: :lol:

Capture d’écran 2021-06-12 à 06.29.47.png
Capture d’écran 2021-06-12 à 06.59.22.png
Capture d’écran 2021-06-12 à 07.03.11.png
https://www.challenges.fr/classements/f ... acaud_3054


But you'll see one day Pacaud will have to pay for his behavior ...

PW
I was going to compose a long reply to this, but honestly, I have neither the time nor the interest to sustain yet another back-and-forth. I am not part of WGCZ at all. I am not employed by them and I have no decision-making power there. I don’t know how to be any clearer about this. Your understanding of the situation is so flawed and incorrect. By the way, I know the real reason the posts about your daughter were taken down and it had nothing to do with the police. Family stuff is inappropriate, I’ve always said that, I’ve always criticized it when it happens, and I will continue to do so.

Models are not mistreated on set as far as I have seen, although it’s impossible to vouch for every studio on the site because they’re all independent producers and I don’t know every single one of them. What I can attest is that I’m very familiar with several of the studios, I’ve worked with a couple of them, and I’m friends with some directors at other places, and with all of that exposure in mind, I have seen literally nothing about production change in the time since the publishing of Nicholas Kristof’s article. Like, not a single thing. Nothing needed to change because nothing inappropriate was going on. The NYT article had no impact on production and didn’t even cover the whole “LP = heartless monsters” bullshit angle anyway. (I think he had maybe one paragraph about it. Right? I can’t be bothered to look back at it.)

Kristof is a useful idiot who has been duped on several occasions in the past. It’s well-documented. Literally just Google “Nicholas Kristof duped” and there are many relevant results which go into it. NYT is using the “clout” associated with his column to achieve its own ends. Some others actually think he is being more malicious than that and is deliberately misrepresenting the situation. I am still of the opinion that he is sincere, but very easily manipulated. His record seems to bear that out.

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PIERRE WOODMAN wrote:
Sat Jun 12, 2021 12:12 pm
It has no sens what you said ...

When a girl say front of my camera she got this or that on LP set, it's the best way never get anymore any money from Pacaud.
PW
Yes, but i mean before a girl complain about LP, who knows if it's not, in somes cases, some sort of vengeance because Stephan didn't approved "extra cash" demand from a girl, it's not impossible that somes girls are talking shit just because he, or the director from LP, didn't approved some crazy salary request, Stephan is not a nice guy, he do many bads stuffs and have A LOT of wrongs side and shits, but i stay also in "interogation" about the motivations of some girls, i don't swallow what every girls are sayings, specialy when they knew since long time what was going to happen at Pragues

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You are not part of the company but you know in detail why they have take off the pictures of my daughter minor and also when adult from their Pornbox forum and it wasn't because of the police.
Me I know the picture was there at 11 am the last day, the police called DDF at 11h30 and at 1 pm all had been off ( only about my daughter because my wife is still there June 12.2021 and presented as a prostitute organising traffic to Dubaï )

Anyway you said a lot but I feel some contradictions :

maybe you're not part of them today but yourself said :
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and you support Pacaud a lot even when it come to be about me as a rappist :
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EBI never sucked my dick ( I prefer because bosses are men ! :lol: ) and honestly situation is better today than ever with them.
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and when situation is clearly agaisnt LP on ADT you immediatly minimise your friendship to them ...
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but at least there was ONE post you did on Pornbox fourm which was a good one in my opinion but also proove what I said since many years, these people don't care about the physical integrity of anyone, only they care about money they do !!!
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so Nick kristof is for sure not an idiot and wasn't abused by anyone concerning what he said about Mindgeek and WGCZ and he has been a top pro because he refused to speak about anything else than what was clearly prooved and even did not mention my family which is a big luck for WGCZ considering the situation they are facing now in america with Jane Doe law suit against the company but also directly the names of Pacaud brother/sister :
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So Pacaud is good ( and you too ) to push about Woodman as a bad guy "rapist" but for now it's WGCZ accused and not me because I never raped anyone and all I do is recorded when I am with a girl.
Recently Lana Rhoades did a broadcast where she had to speak about the bad moments of her career and she didn't mentionned my name. Three weeks ago, a friend of mine, also a friend of her asked why she suddently went kind a did not mentionned her Budapest trip as something "bad".
She said : " I was another person, Woodman did nothing bad to me !!! "

And you can see how many hundred of nice comments I have on social media's from girls having worked with me and how many shit comments Legal Porno / Analvids has got !!!

This month the European court and Budapest court will decided about the trial with PAcaud and me.
But deeply it's illegal as he attacked me in 2 EU countries at same time which is not allowed. he loss in France and expect the EU court to break the sentence. In Budapest the judge was upset when he saw my daughter and wife images on their forum.

Let see what will be the end of this, because anyway after the Covid situation will be set up, my family and me will continued about it in Prague and he will pay for that trust me !!!

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Yes, I know the reason the photos were removed. Sineplex =/= WGCZ, so you’re wrong about that. I have never been employed by WGCZ. I don’t take sides and I am very opinionated, which has always been true and will continue to be the case, so yeah, sometimes I criticize them.

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