All i wanted to say, it's that we always blame on thing to forget another ! Stephan P... biz is helped directly by politics who don't close the tubes sites because it also bring money to them, and guys (Byron) from the past helped him "indirectly/involontary" by giving him idea with shit message propaganda from porn golden boy capitalism, i just refuse to put all the blame on the shoulders of consummers because the piracy situation is the result of a mix of A LOT of parametters, from the present/past, and there's NO "miracle/magic god power" in Stephan's rise of power. And of course stealing video is BAD, of course it's dirty money, BUT please understand also where it come from and analyse ALL the parametter !

PIERRE WOODMAN wrote:Also a beautiful house, a famous place, all those element give a "plus" to a shoot.
But all this has a price that regular producer can't afford anymore
PW

Shooting porno inside 4 walls of a hotel room or an house is also a way to avoid "extra problem", and all profession in 2019, even if the right budget would still be here today, would still prefer to keep shooting in securized area. Exotics place is nice to see, but it costed you "extra" when Richard Langin nearly burned all a village of people in africa at night, so even when the budget is here, accidents and unpredictable bad events are more "a down" from productor side in those exotics places, today nearly every prods focus just on "the sex action scene, girl make up" and avoid unecessary invest, even those who have the money don't shoot in "paradise place" anymore, also i guess some "cachet" from american girls cost more now that in the past, here yes i agree with you !

PIERRE WOODMAN wrote:Also a beautiful house, a famous place, all those element give a "plus" to a shoot.

We see this in every rap video clip now, with black women boobs and bigs ass, yeah it's nearly porn i guess

Jean wrote:today nearly every prods focus just on "the sex action scene, girl make up" and avoid unecessary invest, even those who have the money don't shoot in "paradise place" anymore

You are so fucking wrong!!! As far I know only one director all over the World make shootings always in the same room from so many years .... I suppose he likes to be considered only like a DAP artist!
Turning back to the incredible Kaia's scene, let me say a thing:

Homo*_*Eroticus wrote:

Jean wrote:today nearly every prods focus just on "the sex action scene, girl make up" and avoid unecessary invest, even those who have the money don't shoot in "paradise place" anymore

You are so fucking wrong!!!

Ok i'm so fucking wrong, all what i say is deep bullshit, ok ! But it's strange, when i read ANY comment/question about a wunf, question are like this: "did you fuck this girl in the ass ? ect"

not "did you fuck her under the sun ?"

yeah sure people care about "sun, decor and cozy place"

ok i only say shit ok.

Homo*_*Eroticus wrote:[
....don't you remember the Balaton scene?

Do you understand english ? I written "nearly... every prods".

And of course when Pierre do a scene like this it's great, but for me with or without the sun, the beach, the palace, the MAIN REASON I WATCH his prods are the girls and what they do !!! i don't care if he fuck them into a cavern (could be funny lol) !!!!!!!!

So at the end we all agree on same points !!!
A nice decors and aesthetic places are nice, giving a "plus" but, whatever or wherever it is the main things people who paid wants to see is about SEX !!!

PW

Jean wrote:

Homo*_*Eroticus wrote:

Jean wrote:today nearly every prods[/u focus just on "the sex action scene, girl make up" and avoid unecessary invest, even those who have the money don't shoot in "paradise place" anymore

Do you understand english ? I written "nearly... every prods".

I have understood what you said and I repeat that for me only 1 director is focusing only in sex action & make up!
He's Italian, work in Prague and does a work of shit, hurting the girl, using anesthesics to be able to do DP, DAP, TAP etc ... but some people like his horrible work even if from 5 or more years he's shooting regularly in the same building....

PIERRE WOODMAN wrote:So at the end we all agree on same points !!!
A nice decors and aesthetic places are nice, giving a "plus" but, whatever or wherever it is the main things people who paid wants to see is about SEX !!!

PW

Looking from a different angle: If you have 2 movies with the same quality of sex, but 1 based in the 80's with nice cars , no internet and so.....maybe some prefer the movie with the 80's theme....

To make a profit with it of course would require some "creative" ideas....

Yes, I agree also!!
The luxery locations and girls from the 70s and 80s will never come back!

They all taked and duplicated what they've seen in "Miami Vice" as main model in 80s, but the problem was, it missed Don Johnson in the copy to drive the cars.