MightyMonkey wrote:I happen to know this webcam-bizz because a businessrelation of me is running a few sites like this. Most girls don't even make 1K a month. And most of them are fed up in a couple of months and they quit.
I can imagine this. They have to sit for hours a day behind a screen chatting with Mr Anonymous (GuestXXX) all asking the same stupid questions: "Can u shows us ur tits? Can I see ur ass?".
Still the best option for girls these days is to work in the escort-bizz, where they can make up to 1K an hour. But this is of course just for the most beautifull ones who speak their languages and are able to conduct an intelligent conversation. And also this bizz is going back from where it was a couple of years ago. The recession hits everywhere.
I guess for some its the option of seeing a webcam get her kit off, or buying food. A tough decision for some. Some sites have taken it further, and offer naked girls for free, and the viewer only has to pay if they want to chat to the girls over the phone, one to one. I have no idea how well these sites do.
I think it will go full circle. Physical media, that provide high budger films with a story, interesting locations, and great looking girls. Think Private, Dorcel.
I don't mind paying for a DVD, better still a Blu-ray. I would never pay for downloads, as that kind of media seems cheap.
"For 16 years WCX is a fortress resisting the changes of the internet and the hatred of morons.Thanks to the fans having always supported me but also those discovering me today. It's together that we will go the furthest !!!"
I know. With so much cheap porno, I think its makers will loose interest sooner rather than later. It might some time. Maybe someday the governments around the world might clamp down of the whole situation. It was only 25 years ago they were pulling VHS horror films off the shelves as they were deemed to horror like for the masses I guess those same people are working behind the scenes to censor the world wide web. Once the avenues are shut down, the porno film industry might return to big profits. How long its going to take is anyones guess.
"For 16 years WCX is a fortress resisting the changes of the internet and the hatred of morons.Thanks to the fans having always supported me but also those discovering me today. It's together that we will go the furthest !!!"
PIERRE WOODMAN wrote:No, for sure it's impossible !!!
PW
They are working on blocking things always. I know a French guy that visisted a webite where he could download the lastest films for free, with ease. He attempted to access the site from the UK, and it simply was not available. He tried to Google it, and Google failed to find it. Even Google behaves differently from country to country. Take online Gambling sites, the US has taken control over those in the US. The US will allow US people to gamble online, but only via Gambling sites located in the US, as they don't wnat any money leaving the US via Gambling sites located beyond its borders, which seems like double standards, considering the US wants a McDonalds etc located all ovr the world. Even porn sites are monitored and taken down depending on X Y and Z. Its all taking time, the web is huge, but those in the know are working behind the scenes to decide whats what. Like you say, its difficult to police, and not everyone wants it policed. Wasn't there talk of forcing all porn sites to use something other than .com etc - it was (maybe still is) going to be .porno (for example) and users would have to say during their subscription to their internet than they wanted to opt into .porno - this in it's self would switch off millions, as they would not want to be associated with opting into .porno
Of course not all can make that money beacuse there are so many girls doing it but if you get a bit of name for yourself you can get plenty of money. I dont know how many of you listen to Howard Stern, but she has girls as quests sometimes who do that web cam stuff and they say how easy money it is.
Also i once stumpled across this hot chick on one of these web cam sites. She just played games on XBox Live and chatted with the guys on the chat. If you paid 100 dollars you got her Xbox Live account details and could play with her and also you could donate like 5 dollars or so and then when she reached certain goals she took her clothes off and played naked for a while. I was quite interested how much she could make and watched it for 1 hour. She made over 2000 dollars on that hour.
Mwahahaha.....and how much of this 2K came out of your pocket?
I know I won't be very interested in a naked girl playing with her Xbox. No matter how beautifull she might be. Unless of course she puts her joystick in another place than in her hands.
Anyway, as you can also see most girls look very bored on camera. No wonder, everybody would look bored after several hours of such depressing work. But sometimes it can be interesting also. I once saw a very beautifull girl who was about 8 months pregnant. I was intriged by this girl. I wondered why FGS she took a job like this while her baby was nearly dropping out. I suppose there was a sad story behind this. Father unknown, no job, no money, her last possibility to make some cash and to work from home was probably this webcam-bizz.
I felt so sorry for her that I make an exception and asked her her emailadr. I had the idea to sent her some cash through for instance Western Union. But she disconnected before I received an answer. Maybe she was shocked when one of the Mr. Anonymusses appeared to be a real man with real interest in her.
And from that moment I never look at these webcam girls anymore. They don't make me horny, but just sad. Very sad.
Trust me you wont ever see me putting money on this webcam stuff at these prices, even if i had lots of money i would rather put it on the real deal than to web cam girls.
Explain it to Live Jasmin or Streammate, they did hundred and hundred of million dollar !!! As Xvideos or Hamster who use content pirated and take it of when you ask it put put it back again one week after !!! They paid nothing else than their bandwich and get millions every year with those who paid advertisment on their sites as does ...LiveJasmin and all of them are in the top 100 of the site of the world !!!
And me I produce, work 24/24 and have lost 15 000 places on Alexa since beginning of this year ...
Here is an article from today about how the piracy as changed his way to be since the close of Megaupload ( sorry it's a french newspaper ! ):
Après la fermeture de MegaUpload, le streaming illégal a muté en profondeur
Le Monde.fr | 17.04.2012 à 17h43
Peu après la fermeture des sites de la galaxie MegaUpload, le marché du streaming illégal et du téléchargement direct a amorcé une recomposition en profondeur : un rapport commandé par la Hadopi à l'institut Idate, publié lundi 16 avril, dresse un premier portrait d'un marché en pleine mutation.
La fermeture de MegaVideo, MegaUpload et d'autres site liés a-t-elle réduit la diffusion illégale d'œuvres ? Passés les premiers jours, la fermeture des principales plateformes de diffusion de vidéos illégales en streaming ou de fichiers en téléchargement direct semble avoir eu un impact relativement net sur le streaming, mais beaucoup plus mesuré sur les services de téléchargement direct.
En se basant sur les chiffres du service Alexa, sujets à caution car leur méthodologie tend à sur-représenter les internautes américains, l'Idate note que le trafic global sur les sites de streaming concurrents de MegaVideo était en diminution. Outre MegaVideo, deux autres sites importants, VideoBB et Videozer, ont supprimé une grande partie des contenus hébergés de manière illégale sur leurs plateformes, ce qui a entraîné une chute de leur fréquentation. "Cette baisse (...) n'est pas compensée par une percée des acteurs restants et/ou de nouveaux entrants qui imposent pour le moment de lourdes restrictions d'usage", écrit l'Idate.
L'ESSOR DE SERVICES DE STREAMING PAYANTS
En effet, plus encore qu'une évolution des usages, la fermeture de la galaxie MegaUpload semble avoir provoqué un bouleversement dans le modèle économique des sites de streaming. Deux services ont particulièrement profité de la fermeture de MegaVideo : PureVid et MixtureVideo. D'après les mesures de l'Idate, ces deux sites se partagent aujourd'hui 90 % des liens présents sur les annuaires référençant les vidéos diffusées illégalement en streaming sur les moteurs et annuaires spécialisés.
Mais contrairement à MegaVideo, ces deux sites imposent des limitations très fortes au visionnage des vidéos pour les internautes qui n'ont pas souscrit un abonnement payant. MegaVideo permettait aux utilisateurs de regarder gratuitement 72 minutes de vidéo ; au-delà, l'internaute devait attendre une heure, ou souscrire un abonnement payant. PureVid est bien plus stricte en limitant le visionnage gratuit aux dix premières minutes ; MixtureVideo va plus loin, réservant tout visionnage à ses abonnés payants. Ce dernier a également profité de la disparition de MegaVideo pour relever sensiblement ses tarifs, sauf sur les abonnements à l'année, note l'Idate.
Plus généralement, la fermeture de MegaVideo semble avoir concentré le marché du streaming illégal sur de nouveaux acteurs, qui touchent une cible plus restreinte que ne le faisait MegaVideo, mais qui se concentrent sur un modèle payant et illimité.
LE TÉLÉCHARGEMENT DIRECT MOINS IMPACTÉ
Pour ce qui est du téléchargement direct, le nombre d'acteurs en jeu - un service de téléchargement direct est plus simple et moins coûteux à mettre en place qu'un service de streaming - a fait que le trafic de MegaUpload semble s'être reporté sur de nombreux services.
Se basant toujours sur les chiffres d'Alexa, l'Idate note que le trafic sur les différentes plateformes a augmenté en février. "Cette hausse pourrait être due d'une part à un transfert des utilisateurs de MegaUpload, mais également d'une partie des utilisateurs des formules d'accès gratuit aux contenus en streaming", analyse le cabinet, dont l'étude ne couvre pas les impacts sur les autres modes de téléchargement, comme le P2P, qui semble aussi avoir bénéficié d'un report partiel des anciens utilisateurs de MegaUpload et MegaVideo. Autre évolution majeure : les services de téléchargement direct ont largement abandonné ou réduit leurs pratiques d'affiliation ou de rémunération des utilisateurs alimentant leurs plateformes en contenus. L'acte d'accusation contre MegaUpload se basait notamment sur ces rémunérations, considérées comme une incitation directe à la publication de contenus protégés par le droit d'auteur.
Perturbés dans leur fonctionnement après la fermeture de MegaUpload, les annuaires et moteurs de recherches de liens de téléchargement direct - ces services ne proposant pas de moteurs de recherche internes - semblent avoir conservé un trafic stable. "Le temps nécessaire au remplacement des liens sur les sites de référencement a perturbé le marché, mais le trafic augmente sur les services qui restent actifs", écrit l'Idate.
LA PISTE DES PARTENAIRES ÉCONOMIQUES
Le rapport de l'Idate, principalement consacré au modèle économique de ces différents services, ne suggère pas de pistes pour lutter contre le streaming illégal ou le téléchargement direct. La Hadopi, dont la mission de lutte contre le téléchargement illégal se concentre exclusivement sur le téléchargement P2P, a été chargée par Nicolas Sarkozy de faire des propositions en ce sens pour début 2012.
La Haute autorité avait laissé entendre qu'elle étudiait avant tout des solutions consistant à viser les outils de financement des sites de streaming, par le biais des services de paiement ou les régies publicitaires.
PW
"For 16 years WCX is a fortress resisting the changes of the internet and the hatred of morons.Thanks to the fans having always supported me but also those discovering me today. It's together that we will go the furthest !!!"
I've had Live Jasmin up. Never the same girl, so there must me 1000's of them
While Live Jasmin might do well, maybe the girls dont do so well. What do I know ?
I guess those same people are working behind the scenes to censor the world wide web. Once the avenues are shut down, the porno film industry might return to big profits. How long its going to take is anyones guess.
