in my view politics is a bit like staring into clouds: everybody seems to see something different...

I know what I see, and that is good enough for me

Read again my message or buy glasses, i said the réaction was childish, not the person, and its true the dark forum talk about what Eintrach did, yes it was foolish, from him, to not have mail Pierre to delete his account, instead of doing drama post cinéma "bye bye" rubbish post, its also my right to say it, guys

yes Eintracht supported the site and was funny, but he started to think that he also buyed Pierre Woodman

After 10 years membership you don't pay anymore and are a life member !!!

I did not see why Liabatyd left but saw he disagreed with Pierre in the Ukraine thread.

I don't know the real reasons as he did not told me but I think it's about Ukrain yes !!! Sad many people haven't understood I don't support Putin about this sad war and I am AGAISNT THIS ACTION but anyway I think Putin is not the only responsible of this situation even if obviously it's him who has invaded Ukrain !!!

I wish Pierre would spend less time with politics and more on editing (or relaxing with his family as he works a lot it seemes).

But as Pierre says he can say what he wants and I respect that even though I disagree with some of his opinions outside of porn.

Thank you I appreciate !!!

PW

I get the impulse, and I've had it before, of wanting out of an internet forum when the majority's opinion wants to bully you out and moderators, if there are any, take sides against you, but here? Where the majority agrees with you and the moderator simply lets the discussion be?

That spells "control freak" to me.

I cannot KNOW exactly why Eintracht and Liabatyd have decided to leave the forum and also the website but I do have an educated guess...It is NOT simply a difference of opinion so much as it is a difference of BASE values and the expenditure of time and money in supporting values which diverge dramatically from ones' own.

For example, if I were to believe that my subscription helped Pierre fund authoritarian regimes I would by necessity need to reconsider my subscription. I do not believe that is the case so I maintain my subscription. Others might feel more deeply and thus remove themselves, as they believe continued activity is TACIT agreement with what is hateful behaviour. Pierre may think Putin is a fine fellow...I do not...that is ok. BUT if Pierre was taking my subscription fee and paying it to Putin I would reconsider my subscription. I realize it is a fine line and may lose something in translation...but I felt it was necessary to try to clarify the issue.

I agree with you 100% and I have come to the same conclusion as you but respect others feel even more strongly about such a sensitive issue.

But it's a big joke, because in all the models casted a year, war time or not, you think that there will never be, at least one, who have, or will have, positions that are against yours values ? You think there will never be at least one pretty girl that will use a part of her porn salary, in something that is "against" your values ? You think that there's no models right now, who maybe"hide " their positions to keep their "image clean " ?

At least Pierre is honnest in what he say, he talk frankly with us !

Jean wrote: ↑

Thu Mar 10, 2022 8:57 pm

But it's a big joke, because in all the models casted a year, war time or not, you think that there will never be, at least one, who have, or will have, positions that are against yours values ? You think there will never be at least one pretty girl that will use a part of her porn salary, in something that is "against" your values ? You think that there's no models right now, who maybe"hide " their positions to keep their "image clean " ?

At least Pierre is honnest in what he say, he talk frankly with us !

obviously what I said was lost in translation for you...I am sorry for that...

Well if I found out my wife was an avid Putin supporter I would have to seriously reconsider my marriage to her. You might feel different but for others It's about values and beliefs. These things seriously affect who we choose to align ourselves with in life. Everything I would have thought about her would be considered an illusion. So in Eintracht and Liabatyds case it became a principled revelation. People can agree or disagree but their choices should be respected.

So your wife need to have the exact same political view as you, if not, you divorce her, even if she's could have others special avantages, in every sides, ok...