balou wrote:He has his own strategy and he doesn`t need - us! You want that he follows your rules - more releases, nicer girls, always more, less, higher, lower.... this will never happen guys. Take him as he is or leave him.

Pierre is stubborn, hard headed, won't listen ...
In one's personal life, being stubborn is not a good quality, but hey, if people don't like you then fuck'em
In business, being stubborn and hard headed, not listening to your customers, not matching the competition, thinking you now everything,.. is suicide !!

Masters and Teachers, let's look at Pierre's track record:

Pierre gained notoriety in this business by being an excellent Director, Producer and Talent Scout, no question. He brought us so many fresh, beautiful faces it was unbelievable. He shot in awesome locations, big budget productions. won awards !

But wait a minute,... Pierre had budgets, production crews, advertising, and VHS / DVD mass distribution from Private Media and Hustler, he never had to worry about this side of the business.

On his own, after fighting with Private and Hustler :

1) Pierre's 1st venture with his own website was under the "Exxotica and Spider" labels ..... failed
2) Pierre started Woodman Entertainment, "the new horizon in porn" and declared war on Private Media (EBI Snippets) .... failed
3) Pierre started a website with Christoph Clark, was going to mentor him and do joint productions. The website closed after 10 days ..... failed
4) Pierre started Ultimate Dark Perversions, with his friend Phillipe Soine. After a few years we have a couple of scenes, Soine is long gone .... failed
5 ) WCX. After 6 years the website is flat, stuck at 6,000 members, losing money. He was going to finish Indecent Evil when he got to 10,000 members, and show his detractors ... remember the pictures with Rose ? Today, WCX has less monthly traffic then most of the major adult competitor sites, such as ...

>> Private.com, Pierre declared war .... 4x more traffic then WCX, ouch !!
>> 21sextury, Pierre started these guys in the business ...2.5x more traffic then WCX
>> Legalporno, Pierre got into a fight with them .....2x more traffic then WCX
>> Faketaxi, mickey mouse site .... 1.8x more traffic then WCX
>> DDF, no where near the fresh faces of WCX .... 1.7x more traffic then WCX
>> Czech Castings, another mickey mouse site, ..... 1.07x more traffic then WCX

These are just examples. I'm not even going to try and compare to Brazzers, Mofos, Bangbros, Evilangel, etc....

You guys, Pierre has more fresh faces then anyone else, why are the numbers low ? It's simply because he releases far less content than everyone else. He sits on scenes, doesn't edit them and won't release them .... hard head, stubborn hah ?
Listen to me Pierre, I'm a graduate of Cal Poly, and I know the internet business !

...and yet all you trolls who deride PW on a daily basis continue with your subscriptions.

Nuff said.

Horndogger (congrats with Poly cat) everything you say might be true but simply not relevant. PW is not trying to get a maximum of money out of this website. Seems to be difficult for you to understand. Just get your head out of the numbers and enjoy like he does.

liabatyd

1) Pierre's 1st venture with his own website was under the "Exxotica and Spider" labels ..... failed
2) Pierre started Woodman Entertainment, "the new horizon in porn" and declared war on Private Media (EBI Snippets) .... failed
3) Pierre started a website with Christoph Clark, was going to mentor him and do joint productions. The website closed after 10 days ..... failed
4) Pierre started Ultimate Dark Perversions, with his friend Phillipe Soine. After a few years we have a couple of scenes, Soine is long gone .... failed
5 ) WCX. After 6 years the website is flat, stuck at 6,000 members, losing money. He was going to finish Indecent Evil when he got to 10,000 members, and show his detractors ... remember the pictures with Rose ? Today, WCX has less monthly traffic then most of the major adult competitor sites, such as ...

>> Private.com, Pierre declared war .... 4x more traffic then WCX, ouch !!
>> 21sextury, Pierre started these guys in the business ...2.5x more traffic then WCX
>> Legalporno, Pierre got into a fight with them .....2x more traffic then WCX
>> Faketaxi, mickey mouse site .... 1.8x more traffic then WCX
>> DDF, no where near the fresh faces of WCX .... 1.7x more traffic then WCX
>> Czech Castings, another mickey mouse site, ..... 1.07x more traffic then WCX

So after that Horndogger you don't understand that Balou or Liabatyd are just getting the point that you don't ???
I don't care what does my competitors, I'm just angry against LP because he his a thief and use uncorrect way to do the work with the girls. But out of this until I have enough support here, I'm happy and enjoy to make the day of those who like me as I am ...

PW

I understand Pierre, it's you and the "Master and Teacher crowd" (5 or 6 guys) on this forum that have never understood me. An educated, successful person who understands internet businesses at the macro level offers his opinion, and I'm a "balls breaker and troll".

You were once the premier director in adult videos. You were the king of big productions, exotic locations and beautiful models. Today, you shoot POV style anal in hotel rooms with a handycam while young teens lick your 50 year old hairy bean bag. You don't have a studio, don't have sets, your website doesn't have picture galleries with each shoot, no BTS, on and on.

You blame piracy for the downfall. You come on this forum all the time and say if your membership goes down you'll "close the site". Okay, so I offered you some analysis of what's going on, and I've showed you the numbers for WCX. They are low, and your getting your balls shaved by competitors, the list continues:
18 only girls wow fendom .... 2x the traffic of WCX
Iknowthatgirl.com, just 1/17 sites of Mofos ..... 3x the traffic of WCX.

It's not piracy Pierre, I hate to burst this big bubble. It's a lack of interest in your website because of a slow release schedule with promises going unanswered.
All this time, when people say I'm breaking your balls, I've been trying to compliment you. New models in this business still want to work with you. Even though the big production days are over, you're still a class act amongst a sea of sleeze bags. You simply need to realize that you're getting the fresh faces, you're still the master of seduction, but your website is on life support and may close down after 6 years .... why ? To stay afloat, lockdown your membership and perhaps increase a little to 10,000 + so you have some "breathing room", you need to bump up your release schedule to match production and member expectations. Here's the kicker Pierre ... it's not because Horndogger is whining, it's because the models and agencies want to work with you, you're shooting more, so you need to release more ... Holy crap man.

Don't forget you predicted the end of this site for the end of the year ... 5 years ago on another forum and I'm still here !!!
One "expert" like you should know that traffic = money is a wrong equation ...
I'm happy in what I do and you can write one billion message here,
I DON'T CARE !!!

PW

My only advice ... whatever you do, don't pick another fight with LP. Since the beginning of 2015, you've released 28 scenes all together, LP has released 150 !!

They have a studio, provide picture sets with each update, shoot multiple girls and guys per scene, provide trailers for upcoming releases ... their website has been online for 1/3 the time of WCX, yet they have 2x the traffic. The Alexa numbers are a blowout, their global rank is far better.

Basically in business, they're shaving your bean bag with a straight razor, then pouring a full bottle of Old Spice shaving lotion on your nutsack afterwards. Piracy is no excuse for the numbers, or the sore ball bag, ouch

horndogger wrote:Piracy is no excuse for the numbers...

Read the "STOP PIRACY OF PIERRE WOODMAN CONTENT" Thread, I wrote 2011:

Please, come on, the best piracy protection is good content with a good relations price/content.

And once and for all - YOU CANNOT MAKE ANYTHING ABOUT PIRACY
So, if you will make business with copyright material you will get handled the piracy problematic! If you don't, shut down your server!

This was valid 2011 and is valid now and will be valid 2300....
This whole "Piracy"-Thing is only a excuse for Pierre....

nosferatu wrote:...and yet all you trolls who deride PW on a daily basis continue with your subscriptions.

Only the "not thinking" ones... On the beginning of "to be continued" I cancelled my membership.... So, I'm not a troll...

as much as a fan i am of PWs work, and not into dictating/telling directors what to do, u have to admit horndogger presents valid arguments with no valid reply. I know nothing of the industry and how it works, but slow releasing vids...not releasing an entire scene in one shot...not giving members/potential subscribers good trailers or even a few preview pictures is very frustrating. logically i don't see how it makes good business at all when you compare it to what all the other sites have to offer.

personally I consider myself patient, so i haven't complained, but i can see how this would agitate an average subscriber. Just my unbiased 2 cents.