Impossible to know where Alcaraz or Sinner will end up and honestly when I see the level the players have to go physicaly I am not sure anyone will beat the records of Federer, Nadal and Djokovic ...
I don't think anyone will do 10 Australian open ( Djokovic ) or 14 Roland Garros ( Nadal ) or the 8 Wimbledon + 7 Us open of Federer !!!
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Amen. Hope his records survive this uninspiring duopoly of Nadal 2.0 and the Südtirol robot.
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In fact it's impossible to know what will be the future !!!
Some records of Bruce Lee are still available today an maybe will never be beaten ...
Maybe no one will beat Djokovic or Nadal, Federer, Connors ( still the number one for number of trophies ) records ( Novak with 102 is à 1 step from Federer ( 103 ) !!!
But also there are other way to count who is the GOAT by ranking the number of major singles titles won in Open Era !!!
Novak Djokovic: 32 major titles
24 Grand Slam tournaments, 7 Masters, and 1 Olympic tournament
Australian Open (10): 2008, 2011, 2012, 2013, 2015, 2016, 2019, 2020, 2021, 2023
Roland-Garros (3): 2016, 2021, 2023
Wimbledon (7): 2011, 2014, 2015, 2018, 2019, 2021, 2022
US Open (4): 2011, 2015, 2018, 2023
Masters (7): 2008, 2012, 2013, 2014, 2015, 2022, 2023
Olympic Games (1): 2024
Roger Federer: 26 major titles
20 Grand Slam tournaments and 6 Masters
Australian Open (6): 2004, 2006, 2007, 2010, 2017, 2018
Roland-Garros (1): 2009
Wimbledon (8): 2003, 2004, 2005, 2006, 2007, 2009, 2012, 2017
US Open (5): 2004, 2005, 2006, 2007, 2008
Masters (6): 2003, 2004, 2006, 2007, 2010, 2011
Rafael Nadal: 23 major titles
22 Grand Slam tournaments and 1 Olympic tournament
Australian Open (2): 2009, 2022
Roland-Garros (14): 2005, 2006, 2007, 2008, 2010, 2011, 2012, 2013, 2014, 2017, 2018, 2019, 2020, 2022
Wimbledon (2): 2008, 2010
US Open (4): 2010, 2013, 2017, 2019
Olympic Games (1): 2008
Pete Sampras: 21 major titles
14 Grand Slam tournaments, 5 Masters, and 2 Grand Slam Cups
Australian Open (2): 1994, 1997
Wimbledon (7): 1993, 1994, 1995, 1997, 1998, 1999, 2000
US Open (5): 1990, 1993, 1995, 1996, 2002
Masters (5): 1991, 1994, 1996, 1997, 1999
Grand Slam Cup (2): 1990, 1997
Ivan Lendl: 15 major titles
8 Grand Slam tournaments, 5 Masters, and 2 WCT Finals
Australian Open (2): 1989, 1990
Roland-Garros (3): 1984, 1986, 1987
US Open (3): 1985, 1986, 1987
Masters (5): 1981, 1982, 1985, 1986, 1987
WCT Finals (2): 1982, 1985
John McEnroe: 15 major titles
7 Grand Slam tournaments, 5 WCT Finals, and 3 Masters
Wimbledon (3): 1981, 1983, 1984
US Open (4): 1979, 1980, 1981, 1984
Masters (3): 1978, 1983, 1984
WCT Finals (5): 1979, 1981, 1983, 1984, 1989
Björn Borg: 14 major titles
11 Grand Slam tournaments, 2 Masters, and 1 WCT Finals
Roland-Garros (6): 1974, 1975, 1978, 1979, 1980, 1981
Wimbledon (5): 1976, 1977, 1978, 1979, 1980
Masters (2): 1979, 1980
WCT Finals (1): 1976
Jimmy Connors: 11 major titles
8 Grand Slam tournaments, 2 WCT Finals, and 1 Masters
Australian Open (1): 1974
Wimbledon (2): 1974, 1982
US Open (5): 1974, 1976, 1978, 1982, 1983
Masters (1): 1977
WCT Finals (2): 1977, 1980
Boris Becker: 11 major titles
6 Grand Slam tournaments, 3 Masters, 1 WCT Finals, and 1 Grand Slam Cup
Australian Open (2): 1991, 1996
Wimbledon (3): 1985, 1986, 1989
US Open (1): 1989
Masters (3): 1988, 1992, 1995
WCT Finals (1): 1988
Grand Slam Cup (1): 1996
Andre Agassi: 10 major titles
8 Grand Slam tournaments, 1 Masters, and 1 Olympic tournament
Australian Open (4): 1995, 2000, 2001, 2003
Roland-Garros (1): 1999
Wimbledon (1): 1992
US Open (2): 1994, 1999
Masters (1): 1990
Olympic Games (1): 1996
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Some records of Bruce Lee are still available today an maybe will never be beaten ...
Maybe no one will beat Djokovic or Nadal, Federer, Connors ( still the number one for number of trophies ) records ( Novak with 102 is à 1 step from Federer ( 103 ) !!!
But also there are other way to count who is the GOAT by ranking the number of major singles titles won in Open Era !!!
Novak Djokovic: 32 major titles
24 Grand Slam tournaments, 7 Masters, and 1 Olympic tournament
Australian Open (10): 2008, 2011, 2012, 2013, 2015, 2016, 2019, 2020, 2021, 2023
Roland-Garros (3): 2016, 2021, 2023
Wimbledon (7): 2011, 2014, 2015, 2018, 2019, 2021, 2022
US Open (4): 2011, 2015, 2018, 2023
Masters (7): 2008, 2012, 2013, 2014, 2015, 2022, 2023
Olympic Games (1): 2024
Roger Federer: 26 major titles
20 Grand Slam tournaments and 6 Masters
Australian Open (6): 2004, 2006, 2007, 2010, 2017, 2018
Roland-Garros (1): 2009
Wimbledon (8): 2003, 2004, 2005, 2006, 2007, 2009, 2012, 2017
US Open (5): 2004, 2005, 2006, 2007, 2008
Masters (6): 2003, 2004, 2006, 2007, 2010, 2011
Rafael Nadal: 23 major titles
22 Grand Slam tournaments and 1 Olympic tournament
Australian Open (2): 2009, 2022
Roland-Garros (14): 2005, 2006, 2007, 2008, 2010, 2011, 2012, 2013, 2014, 2017, 2018, 2019, 2020, 2022
Wimbledon (2): 2008, 2010
US Open (4): 2010, 2013, 2017, 2019
Olympic Games (1): 2008
Pete Sampras: 21 major titles
14 Grand Slam tournaments, 5 Masters, and 2 Grand Slam Cups
Australian Open (2): 1994, 1997
Wimbledon (7): 1993, 1994, 1995, 1997, 1998, 1999, 2000
US Open (5): 1990, 1993, 1995, 1996, 2002
Masters (5): 1991, 1994, 1996, 1997, 1999
Grand Slam Cup (2): 1990, 1997
Ivan Lendl: 15 major titles
8 Grand Slam tournaments, 5 Masters, and 2 WCT Finals
Australian Open (2): 1989, 1990
Roland-Garros (3): 1984, 1986, 1987
US Open (3): 1985, 1986, 1987
Masters (5): 1981, 1982, 1985, 1986, 1987
WCT Finals (2): 1982, 1985
John McEnroe: 15 major titles
7 Grand Slam tournaments, 5 WCT Finals, and 3 Masters
Wimbledon (3): 1981, 1983, 1984
US Open (4): 1979, 1980, 1981, 1984
Masters (3): 1978, 1983, 1984
WCT Finals (5): 1979, 1981, 1983, 1984, 1989
Björn Borg: 14 major titles
11 Grand Slam tournaments, 2 Masters, and 1 WCT Finals
Roland-Garros (6): 1974, 1975, 1978, 1979, 1980, 1981
Wimbledon (5): 1976, 1977, 1978, 1979, 1980
Masters (2): 1979, 1980
WCT Finals (1): 1976
Jimmy Connors: 11 major titles
8 Grand Slam tournaments, 2 WCT Finals, and 1 Masters
Australian Open (1): 1974
Wimbledon (2): 1974, 1982
US Open (5): 1974, 1976, 1978, 1982, 1983
Masters (1): 1977
WCT Finals (2): 1977, 1980
Boris Becker: 11 major titles
6 Grand Slam tournaments, 3 Masters, 1 WCT Finals, and 1 Grand Slam Cup
Australian Open (2): 1991, 1996
Wimbledon (3): 1985, 1986, 1989
US Open (1): 1989
Masters (3): 1988, 1992, 1995
WCT Finals (1): 1988
Grand Slam Cup (1): 1996
Andre Agassi: 10 major titles
8 Grand Slam tournaments, 1 Masters, and 1 Olympic tournament
Australian Open (4): 1995, 2000, 2001, 2003
Roland-Garros (1): 1999
Wimbledon (1): 1992
US Open (2): 1994, 1999
Masters (1): 1990
Olympic Games (1): 1996
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TENNIS:
As a huge fan of the big 3, I am also now a huge fan or Alcaraz and Sinner, and for me I think their head to head matches are as entertaining as any matches in history.
However, they will need to be very consistent over many years into their mid to late 30's to be able to compare in numbers with the big 3. But this is not their concern nor ours, it's just media circus.
Our job is just to enjoy the quality they give us for hopefully a long time, but there are never guarantees.
One small correction to Pierre Above post - when he says "Masters" he is referring to the single year end tournament with the top 8 players, not the separate masters 1000 tournaments, of which their are 9 each year, and djokovic has nearly 40 titles.
Djokovic of course is the GOAT now across nearly all the statistics that matter, though on Clay - Nadal is still GOAT and for me Federer is still GOAT on Grass with the most wimbledon titles and finals and other grass titles and arguably also he is on fast indoor courts too.
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As far as Messi vs. Ronaldo, I think Messi is ahead of Ronaldo in quality and how he impacts the game in so many different ways, not just scoring.
Though Argentina have many Antics, usually Messi is not the culprit or involved in them so I think the two are even with each other individually when it comes to fair play.
I was thoroughly unimpressed with how Ronaldo last week or so stormed off the national team. Very childish behaviour, in contrast to the Beautiful farewell ceremony of Messi in the home friendly match against Benin.
As a huge fan of the big 3, I am also now a huge fan or Alcaraz and Sinner, and for me I think their head to head matches are as entertaining as any matches in history.
However, they will need to be very consistent over many years into their mid to late 30's to be able to compare in numbers with the big 3. But this is not their concern nor ours, it's just media circus.
Our job is just to enjoy the quality they give us for hopefully a long time, but there are never guarantees.
One small correction to Pierre Above post - when he says "Masters" he is referring to the single year end tournament with the top 8 players, not the separate masters 1000 tournaments, of which their are 9 each year, and djokovic has nearly 40 titles.
Djokovic of course is the GOAT now across nearly all the statistics that matter, though on Clay - Nadal is still GOAT and for me Federer is still GOAT on Grass with the most wimbledon titles and finals and other grass titles and arguably also he is on fast indoor courts too.
FOOTBALL:
As far as Messi vs. Ronaldo, I think Messi is ahead of Ronaldo in quality and how he impacts the game in so many different ways, not just scoring.
Though Argentina have many Antics, usually Messi is not the culprit or involved in them so I think the two are even with each other individually when it comes to fair play.
I was thoroughly unimpressed with how Ronaldo last week or so stormed off the national team. Very childish behaviour, in contrast to the Beautiful farewell ceremony of Messi in the home friendly match against Benin.
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Merci Pierre de mentionner Jimmy Connors.
Oui, au nombre de tournois gagnés, il reste encore le numéro 1.
Une incroyable personnalité, un solitaire imbuvable mais un sacré joueur.
Je me souviens de son incroyable US Open en 1991.
Le gars s'est marié avec une ancienne Playmate. Une véritable légende.
Oui, au nombre de tournois gagnés, il reste encore le numéro 1.
Une incroyable personnalité, un solitaire imbuvable mais un sacré joueur.
Je me souviens de son incroyable US Open en 1991.
Le gars s'est marié avec une ancienne Playmate. Une véritable légende.
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Je l'ai rencontré à Roland Garros en 1984 lorsque j'étais flic car j'ai eu la chance d'y bosser pendant la quinzaine !!!
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