RUSSIA - UKRAINE 2022 CONFLICT

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MVitaly5 wrote: ↑
Sat Sep 26, 2026 10:25 am
alexandrow wrote: ↑
Sat Sep 26, 2026 9:31 am
AfD co-leader Alice Weidel has described Adolf Hitler as a "left-wing extremist" and a "left-wing radical."
So what?
I don't understand you. Fascism is totalitarianism and authoritarianism that relies more heavily on private capital (Italy under Mussolini). Hitler publicly tried to rely on the popular electorate, exploiting the psychology of revanchism and nationalist ideology; for this reason, some historians are reluctant to call Hitler’s Germany fascist. But in reality, the essence was fascist, because Hitler was also supported by foreign capital; there was an authoritarian form of government based on “leader worship,” totalitarianism in public life, militarism, and a clear Nazi ideology. I don’t know what Weidel meant by that, nor what you’re trying to prove by saying this...
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Sat Sep 26, 2026 9:31 am
Björn Höcke has previously caused a stir with statements regarding German culture of remembrance and the Holocaust Memorial (which he described as a "monument of shame").
I haven't heard anything about that. People say all sorts of things when they're emotional, especially when they're not thinking straight. There are always plenty of fools around.
Please understand that these are your problems—you shouldn't link them to Russia! Russia does not support such views!!!


In Ukraine, Nazism and Nazi criminals are glorified and supported at the state level! And this has been proven! Pantheons are being built from the remains of Nazi criminals, monuments are being erected, city streets are being named after them, and Nazi ideology, symbols, and the like are being promoted. No country in the world bans culture, language, or discrimination based on nationality. In Israel, the Arabic language and Farsi are not banned, and synagogues operate in Iran. But in Ukraine, the Russian language and culture are banned, and discrimination is practiced against the Russian-speaking population and the Russian Orthodox Church. And your “Western community” couldn’t care less about any of this! Because you have always supported—depending on the situation—Nazis, extremists, and terrorists, as long as they acted in your interests against your “enemies” in a given situation.
Roosevelt on the Nicaraguan dictator Somoza: “He’s certainly a ‘son of a bitch,’ but he’s our ‘son of a bitch’!” This slogan encapsulates your entire international philosophy throughout your entire history.
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Sat Sep 26, 2026 9:31 am
Alexander Gauland says Hitler and the Nazis were merely a "speck of bird shit in over 1,000 years of successful German history."
I didn't hear that line either. Well, if it was said, the part about the "speck" is certainly open to debate, and personally, I don't agree with the scale of the crap))),
but maybe he meant to say that the history of the German people has included great culture, literature, philosophy, and much more that is part of the world's cultural heritage.

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Sat Sep 26, 2026 9:31 am
Christian Lüth says about migrants: "You can always shoot or gas them later."
Well, there have always been plenty of emotional idiots who don’t watch what they say, and in every political party. I’ll say it again: these are your problems; you yourselves created this migrant crisis that Germans hate so much, so there’s no point in looking for “Russia’s malicious intent” here. If the West were in Russia’s place, you certainly wouldn’t miss the opportunity to vigorously add fuel to the fire of German social instability. But you’re trying to pass off your own vices as Russia’s...


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Please understand: what matters is what the authorities of a given country actually do, and the concrete actions that are embodied in government policy. And only rhetoric coming from official sources—from those vested with real power—is taken seriously. And even in this case, some Western leaders today are perceived as oddballs rather than serious political leaders.
If you were to listen to what is sometimes said on certain Russian talk shows by journalists, politicians, or public figures, then in their view, you (the West) should have been destroyed long ago for your extremely hostile policy toward Russia. Public sentiment must be taken into account and acknowledged, but what matters is what policies and actions are carried out by those who hold real power, who implement state policy, and—MOST IMPORTANTLY—WHO BEAR RESPONSIBILITY!!!
Therefore, we must analyze the actions of those in power—and, most importantly, of serious and authoritative politicians who enjoy national support and international standing—rather than the meaningless rhetoric of all sorts of oddballs and fringe figures...

I am definitely more and more sure that all this pressure Brussels gives to all of us about the war and supposed "Russian attack" is only made in order to stop the possibility that AFD in Germany, or RN in France and all extrem right movement ready to put the migrant out and reopen discussion with Moscow, will be blocked !!!
They have only this solution to stay at the power otherwise it's clear that 2027 will shut down most actual government supporting Ukrain.
They have ruin europe, make american so much stronger and now want go even higher in that way ...
And as probably Trump will loss the November election they feel so much that the wind will come back like when Biden was there and they have no any shame to push harder in the psychose way in order keep the power ...
Silly people !!!

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PIERRE WOODMAN wrote: ↑
Sat Sep 26, 2026 11:50 am
I am definitely more and more sure that all this pressure Brussels gives to all of us about the war and supposed "Russian attack" is only made in order to stop the possibility that AFD in Germany, or RN in France and all extrem right movement ready to put the migrant out and reopen discussion with Moscow, will be blocked !!!
They have only this solution to stay at the power otherwise it's clear that 2027 will shut down most actual government supporting Ukrain.
They have ruin europe, make american so much stronger and now want go even higher in that way ...
And as probably Trump will loss the November election they feel so much that the wind will come back like when Biden was there and they have no any shame to push harder in the psychose way in order keep the power ...
Silly people !!!

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Yes, that’s true, but that’s not the whole story.
All it takes is a thorough and logical analysis to clarify all the motives driving the current political elite in Brussels and across Europe.
This war, into which Europe has poured colossal sums of its taxpayers’ money, had certain initial motives; at worst, to weaken Russia and bring its resources and political course under control; at best (for the organizers), to destroy Russia as a unified and sovereign state, fragment it, and—with the same goal in mind—bring its resources under control, effectively through colonization.
Historically, the West has repeatedly had such global plans for Russia, which serves as indisputable proof of my theory. It’s just a shame that, for the West, the lessons of history have been in vain and have taught them nothing. The ambitions of the elite and the greed of former colonizers, slave owners, pirates, and gangsters have remained unchanged in their mindset, no matter how much they try to mask it with outward “glitz, humanitarian, and liberal ideas.” All these “ideas” were meant only for yourselves, but not for the people of the rest of the world, whom you have always despised.
That covers the motives; as for the plan, it was as follows:
1). With the help of a so-called proxy force—namely, the puppet, anti-Russian political regime in Ukraine, installed through a coup d’état—the goal was to provoke Russia into taking action in the interests of its own security and the security of the vast number of Russian people who have historically lived on Ukrainian territory. Which, in fact, is exactly what they succeeded in doing. Fighting directly against a leading nuclear power would have been too costly, so proxy forces had to be used. It’s a shame that ordinary Ukrainians don’t understand that they are merely a buffer and cannon fodder in this scheme. And in reality, no one needs them—except perhaps Russia, as paradoxical as that might sound to some.
2). The sanctions—which, by the way, were planned well in advance, before February 2022—and the hostile policies were aimed at the same goals.
3). The demonization and Russophobic propaganda in the international community were aimed at the same goals.

Is it even necessary to say now that all these plans have failed spectacularly? Yes, they have suffered a crushing fiasco.
Realizing this, the organizers and executors of this entire “grand plan” have fallen into a state of sheer hysteria and, in effect, “death throes.” In the midst of this hysteria, they essentially have no idea what to do next. In the wake of this fiasco, how can they explain the colossal waste of funds and resources, and the decline of their own “assets”? Everything that current Western leaders are doing now is nothing more than frantic, desperate attempts, because there is no turning back for them. They couldn’t care less about Ukraine and the Ukrainians—even if they all perish—which is why they will drag out this war. They are also trying to intimidate their own population with an “imaginary Russian threat,” because how else can they explain such financial expenditures that run counter to national interests? That is one aspect. Another aspect is that this war feeds a huge number of politicians and representatives of big business, especially in the military-industrial complex. All these politicians are entangled in corruption schemes, kickbacks, and outright criminal activity. And the main victims, as usual, are the majority of ordinary people. After all, the main problems—both economic and social—are still ahead of you. All those weapons, once Ukraine is defeated in the war, will return to Europe—only this time, they’ll be turned against you. The malicious Nazi ideology demands an outlet for aggression; lacking the strength and ability to vent their hatred, malice, and aggression on Russia, they will take it all out on you, weak Europe, and in the end, they will blame you for their defeat—you’ll see.

You see, all of them—von der Leyen, Merz, Macron, Bernam, and others—are nothing more than puppets, mere pawns carrying out a global plan devised by a small circle of global capital.
Who is Merz? He’s a former employee of the global corporation “BlackRock,” which had many commercial interests in Ukraine and in the Donbas in particular. That’s Merz’s main interest, while the interests of the German people are, for him, perhaps third or fifth on the list. It’s obvious. It’s a shame that a local forum participant from Germany is unable to understand this.
Who is Macron? He is a representative of the global banking and financial sector (figuratively speaking, the Rothschild clan), who was made French president in less than half a year during his first term. Before that, no one knew him. Naturally, the interests of global capital come first for him, while the interests of the French come third—or maybe fifth—and right now he probably doesn’t care at all, because he understands perfectly well that he’s just a temporary figure and will leave in 2027 anyway. As the Marquise de Pompadour said, “After us, the deluge!” That’s why he doesn’t give a damn about you!
Who is Bernam? Just another British prime minister—they change every month, but in reality, nothing in the country changes except for the mounting problems. His kingdom is falling apart, yet all he thinks about is Ukraine and how to harm Russia. And why? Because there’s a secret agreement between Britain and Ukraine granting Britain rights to many assets in Ukraine. As for Zelenskyy, he sold out all of Ukraine long ago. That’s why all these Starmer, Bernam, and others are just one gang, whose members simply take turns in power without any elections, mocking the British people’s illusions about the existence of democracy.
And I can give you a brief analysis like this for every European or American politician.
U. von der Leyen is just a bureaucratic establishment that virtually no one elected (except for that freakish European Parliament); they’re all mired in total corruption, and they, too, are carrying out a political agenda and, together with the Ukrainian junta, are simply a corrupt criminal gang. And to cover this up, they invent myths about imaginary external threats and the like, using you—and thinking of you, ordinary Europeans and Americans—as a herd of brainless sheep.
I could write a great deal on this topic, but I don’t have much time...

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Don't act as if you're the only one who understands everything. We all know everything you've said about the politicians. The fact that you set yourself above everyone here and accuse them all of having no clue speaks volumes.

I can only speak for Germany, and I can assure you that their goal was never to attack Russia in any way or anything of the sort. Compulsory military service in the Bundeswehr was abolished ages ago. The military is a joke. Why on earth would Germany go after Russia?

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I could tell you a funny joke a son of my friend told me once! It happened sometime in 2015

He participated in Germany's army training (not NATO), his role was to monitor the situation. For like 20 years or so Germany first time decided to practice scenario of parachutting entire group of different regiments.

As I was told, this entire scenario was copied from Belgians (who copied it from France). Each country successfully accomplish this then. But not us.

Well, troops embarked with parachute successfully and reached the point of their mission. And then suddenly they discovered their APC squad (4 units) along with their paratrooper personel were missing!

In accordance with their mission, they had to land somewhere and drive like 2 hours to west to somewhere in SA-Anhalt land. But something went wrong, their navigation failed and instead of driving west, they drove east!

At some point they reached the markline with polish troops with eyes like this :shock: :shock: :shock: shouting KURWA!!!

I guess they felt it was 1939 again!

I am sure that somebody lost his job.

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Sat Sep 26, 2026 2:43 pm
Don't act as if you're the only one who understands everything. We all know everything you've said about the politicians. The fact that you set yourself above everyone here and accuse them all of having no clue speaks volumes.
If I were to listen to all of you, it seems like everyone here knows everything. Why, then, are you so reluctant to demonstrate your knowledge, yet you keep writing all kinds of nonsense? Believe me, I’m a tough guy, but I’m not trying to humiliate anyone here—I just really don’t understand, and all I hear is, “Don’t tell me that—I already know it!” Strange...
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Sat Sep 26, 2026 2:43 pm
I can only speak for Germany, and I can assure you that their goal was never to attack Russia in any way or anything of the sort. Compulsory military service in the Bundeswehr was abolished ages ago. The military is a joke. Why on earth would Germany go after Russia?
Really? I was born in the Soviet Union, and I remember perfectly well what happened to my ancestors in the mid-20th century!!! All my ancestors were forced to defend their land from you! (Well, not from you personally.) So you’re not the one to be telling me about this.


But you apparently didn’t read my post carefully, or you didn’t understand a thing.
Yes, modern Germany really can’t compete with Russia in the military sphere—at least not yet, even though it’s doing everything it can to actively militarize itself. I was talking about something entirely different. I was talking about other forms of hostility and aggression, and I described everything in my post. Your Germany, under its current leaders, is one of many members of a large cohort of vultures, whose leaders carry out the political agenda of big global capital through their aggressive “instruments” and various militarized and other structures; NATO, the European Union—which has now turned into an aggressive rabble—and others. And the targets of this hostility are competitors in the capitalist market: Russia, China, etc.
The goal of any form of global capital is control over resources and assets; that is the whole point of the capitalist system. This is how all wars begin—when there is a “hunt” for new resources—because capitalism is structured in such a way that it exhausts all resources without restraint. If Russia did not possess enormous military potential—and, most importantly, an advanced, high-tech nuclear arsenal—the West would have already invaded Russia under any far-fetched pretext. As it is, it seeks out various other avenues, using puppet forces, sanctions, pressure, and so on. And this isn’t some fantasy, prejudice, paranoid thought, or conspiracy “theory” of mine—your politicians and military officials, especially in behind-the-scenes discussions, aren’t even trying to hide their intentions toward Russia anymore. Believe me, I participate in a great many discussions and debates across various platforms, and I know what I’m talking about. Indeed, why hide it now? You’ve already provoked Russia, demonized it; no one has cared about Ukraine’s fate for a long time—the masks have long since been dropped. Here’s a small example: “Why pay Russia for gas via the ‘Nord Stream’ pipelines, thereby contributing to Russia’s development, when you can take it all away?” This is a typical colonial mentality, and there’s nothing new about it! And I can give you plenty of examples like this! How do you do it? There are many different ways—without a direct attack—and that’s exactly what you’ve all been collectively doing. Only, in the end, you’ve suffered a complete fiasco!
This is what I was talking about in my post—read it carefully. Your countries are nothing more than tools in the hands of global capitalist puppet masters!!!

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Brussels sing the song of the war, england today is supposed been "attacked" but at same time no one mention that Russia says it's not true and that Russia propose to give fuel for less money than any other ...
So why the Ukrain which is not even in the EU should be the reason everyone must pay so much the energy ...
oersonaly I don't give a shit, my Tesla cost me 20 euros for 400 km but honestly it's maybe time for europeans to wake up a bit and say stope to all these lies !!!

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Pour les francophones un lien vers une analyse que je trouve « non impossible » même si j’émets des réserves vu qu’il ne parle pas de la Lybie !!!
Mais son point de vue est intéressant je trouve. …


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