RUSSIA - UKRAINE 2022 CONFLICT

[PIERRE WOODMAN]

https://www.france24.com/fr/france/2026 ... -l-ukraine

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Mais on a pas d'argent pour tant de choses mais pour la guerre oui là ça va ...

PW

[PIERRE WOODMAN]

Can someone explain me how today many important politics leader was in Kiev, an did some speech OUTSIDE when every day we got on the news that the city is under the bombs !!!
Something is not normal ... why are they not scared from been killed by a drone or a rocket ??? as far we heard every day Ukrain can't stop many bombs the russian send on the city so how can they stay a full day ouside with a smile on their face ???

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et pendant que les gens meurent :

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PW

[BlackSon]

Can someone explain me how today many important politics leader was in Kiev, an did some speech OUTSIDE when every day we got on the news that the city is under the bombs !!!
Something is not normal ... why are they not scared from been killed by a drone or a rocket ??? as far we heard every day Ukrain can't stop many bombs the russian send on the city so how can they stay a full day ouside with a smile on their face ???


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et pendant que les gens meurent :


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PW

Pretty simple. They know Russia won't attack government buildings cause Russia knows it wouldn't matter, so pretty much it's the safest place for them there

[Data Fanatic]

Can someone explain me how today many important politics leader was in Kiev, an did some speech OUTSIDE when every day we got on the news that the city is under the bombs !!!
Something is not normal ... why are they not scared from been killed by a drone or a rocket ??? as far we heard every day Ukrain can't stop many bombs the russian send on the city so how can they stay a full day ouside with a smile on their face ???


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et pendant que les gens meurent :


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PW

When we talking places near the government building, Hrushevskogo St., Maidan metro station and Franka metro station - they all are safe if you have _intime_ warnings.
And we have them indeed: єППО, Флюгер, Повітряна тривога app and 4 more at Google Play.

The tricky part: ballistic missiles, which give you only 3-5 minutes to move to rather deep shelter (meteo station, government building shelter etc.)

A year ago ballistics were rare. But now the most part of victims are civilians, who cannot move to safe place in 3-5 minutes. Which mainly happens at night, when everyone is sleeping.

You can install єППО etc. and see yourself the time when ballistic shelling happens - not in day time...

It's mainly night, 1 pm - 5 pm as I can conclude from the sirens in my Kyiv regions.

A year ago I had "drone highway" over my head, Shakheeds headed to Kyiv. Sounded like a lawn mover or a scooter somewhere far in the sky. And I used to see guys at gun trucks, hunting for those drones.

[PIERRE WOODMAN]

OK I understand but it doesn't explain me why Zelensky and all his "guest " are so confident about not been killed by Russia.
I could not imagine Winston Churchill inviting some leaders from other european countries and relax in the street of London between the WWII !!!
So why it is like that in Ukrain since the beginning of this war ???
How it's possible these people can fly to Kiev without been scared ???

PW

[MVitaly5]

OK I understand but it doesn't explain me why Zelensky and all his "guest " are so confident about not been killed by Russia.
I could not imagine Winston Churchill inviting some leaders from other european countries and relax in the street of London between the WWII !!!
So why it is like that in Ukrain since the beginning of this war ???
How it's possible these people can fly to Kiev without been scared ???

PW

They come to Kyiv not because they are brave, but because they have tacit guarantees of their safety. If it weren’t for these guarantees, it would technically be very easy to wipe them all out. Ukraine no longer has any air defense systems capable of intercepting Russian ballistic missiles. Russia’s behavior can be explained by several factors.
First, the Russian Army does not strike targets that are not significant in terms of undermining Ukraine’s defense capabilities—its military, energy, or economic capabilities!
You know, I’ve long wondered why Russia doesn’t eliminate Ukraine’s political leadership or representatives of hostile countries, as the West usually does—blatantly killing the leaders of other nations—even though Russia has all the technical capabilities to do so. Some of my highly competent sources, who are close to the circles of power, once told me, and I quote: “There’s no point in wasting an expensive missile on some nobody who’s of no consequence!” It’s much more important to destroy, for example: a weapons manufacturing plant, warehouses containing weapons and ammunition, facilities of economic or energy significance, and so on.
You see, all this worthless rabble that comes to Kyiv—they have no real significance. But killing these people could create opportunities for propaganda and artificially turn these nobodies into “martyrs” in the eyes of the international community. You see, these are very subtle points; they need to be understood as well. Trump and Netanyahu killed an Iranian ayatollah, and now they feel nothing but the immense hatred of the Iranian people and all Shia Muslims toward them. Putin is a veteran intelligence official, and he has his own views on concepts such as “political games,” “revenge,” “international law,” and so on. Putin is a proponent of very measured, step-by-step, grandmaster-like decisions—an evolutionary approach. He wants the West, having blown up this Zelensky soap bubble, to let it burst on its own. And he has no desire to turn this drug addict into a “martyr.” What’s more, Zelenskyy himself is doing everything he can to destroy Ukraine, and he’s secretly eliminating all the Nazi scum in this war. Isn’t that exactly what Russia is aiming for? Why would Russia want to have all that on its border afterward? Yes, there are many ambiguous nuances, costs, and so on, but politics is a cynical and harsh business! As for Western leaders, from Putin’s perspective, why kill them if their political careers are already numbered? All of your leaders are extremely unpopular in their own countries. Putin is patiently waiting for a change in political course in various Western countries. My personal opinion on this matter is mixed; I’m more skeptical about such a prospect, but that’s a different discussion.
Second, and this follows from the first point, the Russian leadership believes that the targeted assassination of leaders of other countries is a gross violation of international law, and it simply does not want to be seen as akin to the “bloody West” in the eyes of its international partners: China, India, and many other countries in the international community. The West is accustomed to viewing itself as the center of international political “trends,” but this is far from the truth; you are slaves to your own propaganda, which instills these narratives in you. The real political powers and centers of international influence have long since shifted to Asia, and it is precisely for a favorable standing within the international community of that region that the struggle is being waged. Putin takes this into account!
Third, Russia has no intention of withdrawing its diplomatic missions from European countries—at least for now. Nor does it want to endanger Russian citizens residing in Western countries. Aggressive actions against Western leaders could negatively impact these processes. Putin does not want this; he wants to have a positive influence on people living in Europe or other countries. And this is bearing fruit, despite the most vicious propaganda in the West aimed at demonizing Putin. Putin’s calculation is that your own people will soon remove your leaders from power. And this is indeed a realistic prospect, given the extremely negative attitude toward their leaders in the overwhelming majority of Western countries. And Putin’s calculation is quite understandable.
I can’t say that I agree with Putin on this point—specifically, his expectation of a more favorable outlook in relations with the West—because I don’t believe in political and moral freedom in the capitalist West, but no one asks for my opinion. And, for my part, these are just assumptions...

[user-47]

I could not imagine Winston Churchill inviting some leaders from other european countries and relax in the street of London between the WWII !!!

Because it is not a war. It is a [para]military operation. When War takes place all trades will stop! Did England trade with Germany during WWII? Of course not.

Does Europe trade with Russia? They they does. In fact, Russia sells gas and oil to Ukraine too, through side-off contacts. It is all big money and big business.

As for your original question, why they dont afraid to be bombed - because it is all settled before with russian intelligence. They were announced before departure about their plan to visit Kiev, and Russia apparently gave their OK for this meeting not to be intterupted, because it is not the war, it is an operation. I am pretty much sure financial interests of both sides at stakes!

[PIERRE WOODMAN]

They could have done the same image with all actual european leaders !!!

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PW

[Jean]

Hey Mvitaly, i need your opinion on this, there"s an ex pornactress, Mia Khalifa, who explain recently that people who "give/sell their body" to a military army for doing war, it's worse than doing cockteasing/men ejaculate on onlyfan (it's a internet place where women show their intime parts in exange of money) , what do you think about that my friend ? (I'm asking you because it's you the military expert )

[MVitaly5]

Hey Mvitaly, i need your opinion on this, there"s an ex pornactress, Mia Khalifa, who explain recently that people who "give/sell their body" to a military army for doing war, it's worse than doing cockteasing/men ejaculate on onlyfan (it's a internet place where women show their intime parts in exange of money) , what do you think about that my friend ? (I'm asking you because it's you the military expert )

Mia Khalifa’s opinion on such topics is, of course, very important to us, given that she hasn’t found anything better to do with her brain than sell her body. And I’m not going to belittle her—everyone earns a living however they want. At the same time, I don’t think she should speak up on topics she knows nothing about. Comparative terms like “worse” or “better,” coming from her, are already cause for suspicion. Most people like her constantly suffer from an inferiority complex, though they’ll never admit it. They always want to prove that there are “worse” occupations than the one they’re in. But in this context and regarding the topics under discussion, her comparison is completely out of place—which is why it sounds stupid!
Through her work, she benefits only herself—and satisfies the physiological needs of a few horny sperm-obsessed men. On top of that, she wants moral, social, and possibly even legal recognition so she can do this legally. Therefore, her motivation is solely to earn personal income and suppress her inferiority complex.
Not all wars are the same! There are different kinds of wars. In most wars, each belligerent side considers its war to be just and righteous, and its actions to be justified! Motivations, aside from obtaining spoils or financial compensation, also vary. No one goes to war to die. The goal is to survive the war and destroy the enemy! The broader objectives of war, however, are more significant, and sacrifices are accepted in order to achieve them. Therefore, the phrase “selling one’s body to war” is an inaccurate statement—unless a person is insane, or is intentionally or forcibly thrown into certain and inevitable death.
By nature, a man is a “warrior, hunter, and protector”!
If Mia Khalifa is treated unjustly tomorrow, she will demand protection from those very same men. And it doesn’t matter what form that takes—whether it’s law enforcement protection, military protection, or the like—the essence of the matter remains the same!