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PIERRE WOODMAN
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"It seems the key to success is motivation. So that's perfect because thanks to all of you who have supported me for 17 years here, I am extremely motivated."
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Jean
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Personnellement, je pense que les 2 activités ont leurs problèmes, c'est pas tout blanc d'un côté et tout noir de l'autre, on peut lire dans les derniers messages postés ici que "aucune actrice X n'a fini en méchoui, pourtant, ça avait été évoqué dane le passé, un voisin de Giorgio Grandi s'était fait passé pour un photographe et avait mis une pornmodel dans son congelateur. .. (sans vie, évidemment), sinon y'a aussi toutes celles qui sont décédé avant 40 ans dans le X, y'en a un paquet il me semble... ah oui, et aussi celles qui sont encore traumatisé d'êtres passé chez pascal op et le gars cagoulé du 93 qui bande mou... bref tout ça pour dire que oui, malheureusement, des tragédies arrives dans l'escorting, mais aucun milieu n'est a l'abris de ca, même des histoires d'amour hors univers sexuel, ça peut finir en tragédie (affaires Cantat, daval, jubilar, ect), hélas...
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On ne va quand même pas tous devenir moines et uniquement se branler sur les vidéos du père woodman qui gueule "AAAAAAAAH SUKA DE MERDE" à cause de ça ... déjà que les tubes, c'est devenu la merde sans vpn, alors si on enlève aussi les putes. .. on fait quoi ? Un supot et au lit ?

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PIERRE WOODMAN
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Mais j'espère surtout qu'un jour ils n'existeront plus !!! Ils devraient être tous en taule pour avoir laissé des millions de gamins voir de la pornographie volée à des gens comme moi mais aussi parfois des scènes de masochisme ou zoophilie ce qui est à mon sens l'une des raisons principales pour lesquelles notre société est aussi déglinguée aujourd'hui !!!déjà que les tubes, c'est devenu la merde sans vpn
Et les politiques qui laissent faire depuis 25 ans devraient aussi être mis au pilori ...
Et pour les putes ils savent mieux les taxer que les protéger ...
A part ça, ton retour c'est pour nous dire que mes cris d'orgasmes ont froissé tes petits tympans ???
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If you try OnlyFans, you can book approx 75% of all pornstars with an OF account as an escort. Let’s be realistic. Nearly all only work for the money. So less modelling work or less pay for videos: OF is the first next step after filming and escorting the second. Even ‘sweet girls’ like Zazie S, Rose D, Kari M. and many many others were available for escorting. And still are. It is a common side effect of the business. It is hard to stop since it dries up the ‘easy money’ Some work under the radar; some in the open. If you google pornstar escorts in Prague or Budapest you are amazed. Good or bad? I see it as the final pay out for the carnal careerpath they followed.
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Jean
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Déjà, à mon sens, un gamin, ça n'a rien à foutre avec un téléphone ou une tablette dans les mains mais bon.... autre chose, effacement définitif des tubes = fin d'accès à l'historique de tout ce qui s'est passé avant dans X... Pour le cinéma traditionnelle, si on veut voir un film des années 80/90/2000, on se le commande sur Amazon ou autre, mais pour le X, on veut revoir, par affection ou nostalgie , une scène du passé, on fait comment sans tubes ? Je l'ai toujours dit, pour certains, le X c'est pas uniquement pour se branler, mais bon...PIERRE WOODMAN wrote: ↑Mon Aug 24, 2026 4:53 amMais j'espère surtout qu'un jour ils n'existeront plus !!! Ils devraient être tous en taule pour avoir laissé des millions de gamins voir de la pornographiedéjà que les tubes, c'est devenu la merde sans vpn
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PIERRE WOODMAN
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Les propriétaires de presque tout le porno des 50 dernières années ce sont les propriétaires des tubes donc ils pourraient juste faire des sites payant et tout rentrerait dans l'ordre. Tu ne va pas chercher ta bouffe gratos chez Lidl ou tes pneus de voiture gratos chez ton garagiste etc ...
La concurrence est un moteur qui pousse à la créativité et au travail, le gratuit assassine tout et démotive les gens ...
Moi quand je vois que les compteurs sont au vert avec des abos en plus je suis motivé pour produire / editer plus de videos mais quand c'est rouge j'ai envie d'aller me balader en forêt et faire un autre boulot ...
But when I see girls like Liz Ocean for instance, no escort, no collab of shit, just a nice girl enjoying fuck as a normal person, I have a huge respect for her !!!
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La concurrence est un moteur qui pousse à la créativité et au travail, le gratuit assassine tout et démotive les gens ...
Moi quand je vois que les compteurs sont au vert avec des abos en plus je suis motivé pour produire / editer plus de videos mais quand c'est rouge j'ai envie d'aller me balader en forêt et faire un autre boulot ...
It's true many girls are doing escorting, many of them disappear and nobody know what happened to them, many get just attacked and stop all, and the other are lucky and still do it !!!JohanvonR wrote: ↑Mon Aug 24, 2026 5:32 amIf you try OnlyFans, you can book approx 75% of all pornstars with an OF account as an escort. Let’s be realistic. Nearly all only work for the money. So less modelling work or less pay for videos: OF is the first next step after filming and escorting the second. Even ‘sweet girls’ like Zazie S, Rose D, Kari M. and many many others were available for escorting. And still are. It is a common side effect of the business. It is hard to stop since it dries up the ‘easy money’ Some work under the radar; some in the open. If you google pornstar escorts in Prague or Budapest you are amazed. Good or bad? I see it as the final pay out for the carnal careerpath they followed.
But when I see girls like Liz Ocean for instance, no escort, no collab of shit, just a nice girl enjoying fuck as a normal person, I have a huge respect for her !!!
PW
"It seems the key to success is motivation. So that's perfect because thanks to all of you who have supported me for 17 years here, I am extremely motivated."
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Disco_Dan
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Ok, so lets use your reasoning here only this time looking at it from the model's point of view.PIERRE WOODMAN wrote: ↑Mon Aug 24, 2026 9:21 am
Competition is an engine that drives creativity and hard work; free content kills everything and demotivates people.
When I see things are going well with more subscriptions, I'm motivated to produce/edit more videos, but when they're down, I feel like going for a walk in the woods and finding another job.
PWJohanvonR wrote: ↑Mon Aug 24, 2026 5:32 amIf you try OnlyFans, you can book approx 75% of all pornstars with an OF account as an escort. Let’s be realistic. Nearly all only work for the money. So less modelling work or less pay for videos: OF is the first next step after filming and escorting the second. Even ‘sweet girls’ like Zazie S, Rose D, Kari M. and many many others were available for escorting. And still are. It is a common side effect of the business. It is hard to stop since it dries up the ‘easy money’ Some work under the radar; some in the open. If you google pornstar escorts in Prague or Budapest you are amazed. Good or bad? I see it as the final pay out for the carnal careerpath they followed.
Models have to compete with other models; if they worked for free, they wouldn't have very long careers now, would they? That's why when they have sex with old men like you, they are doing it for MONEY, not because they like you or want to have "fun." The reason why they turn to OnlyFans is so that they can control their OWN careers and don't have to humiliate themselves with the likes of you."Competition is an engine that drives creativity and hard work; free content kills everything and demotivates people."
They have sex with men like you FOR MONEY. You're the only one with this deluded thought that they like you; I mean, come on. So, yes, JohanvonR, you are exactly right; don't let this deluded idiot think he's telling you something.
When you say more subscriptions, you mean MORE MONEY, because you don't actually give a shit about members. Your content (When you finally get around to doing any) is old, dated and boring; that's why nobody is subscribing anymore. (When was the last time you answered or posted any BTS for that long-standing member of yours, doxxx I think his name is???)"When I see things are going well with more subscriptions, I'm motivated to produce/edit more videos, but when they're down, I feel like going for a walk in the woods and finding another job."
Feel free to go for that walk in the woods, Andre, but please, do us all a favour and don't worry about finding your way back.
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You are aware that you're an old man as well, right Dan?
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PIERRE WOODMAN
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Don't even try speak with him ...
I am gonna ban this botox factory because he doesn't even know what he is speaking about and only try put some shit here like always do all my haters !!!
It's just once again an enjoyment to see I am burning the mind of these people. But at same time no need lose more time with them. The Circus forum is dead my haters there are writing for the wall, EBI or Indexxx have also the 3 or 5 same idiots since 15 years there, nothing has change, so why should I keep a tribune for someone who is stil existing just because he has an american passport ??? This guy lives in a flat of 50 square meters at 600 euros / month rent without even a descent sofa or bed inside and wants come here to play the superman while he never got the chance to keep a girlfiend more than few months after they find out he is just a "nobody" without money who pretend be a billionaire ...
He is a joke and now that all Budapest laugh about him once again I think we don't need him here anymore !!!
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I am gonna ban this botox factory because he doesn't even know what he is speaking about and only try put some shit here like always do all my haters !!!
It's just once again an enjoyment to see I am burning the mind of these people. But at same time no need lose more time with them. The Circus forum is dead my haters there are writing for the wall, EBI or Indexxx have also the 3 or 5 same idiots since 15 years there, nothing has change, so why should I keep a tribune for someone who is stil existing just because he has an american passport ??? This guy lives in a flat of 50 square meters at 600 euros / month rent without even a descent sofa or bed inside and wants come here to play the superman while he never got the chance to keep a girlfiend more than few months after they find out he is just a "nobody" without money who pretend be a billionaire ...
He is a joke and now that all Budapest laugh about him once again I think we don't need him here anymore !!!
PW
"It seems the key to success is motivation. So that's perfect because thanks to all of you who have supported me for 17 years here, I am extremely motivated."