HUNGARY / HONGRIE

[bucki125]

Another would-be dictator goes into the trash bin of history. I hope Trump follows him soon (wait until November elections)!

[PIERRE WOODMAN]

You keep cheering for Trump and Orbán like they’re defenders of civilization but let’s face the facts

Western countries have killed millions of civilians in Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya and Syria yet nobody calls them “terrorist states.” But if a Muslim country, China or Russia kills a few civilians suddenly the whole nation is branded “terrorist.” That’s the double standard you never talk about.

Before America invaded Iraq in 2003 with fake WMD claims, there were basically no Middle Eastern refugees flooding Europe. It was U.S. wars that destabilized the region and created the refugee crisis you now complain about. You hate immigrants, but it’s Western bombs that created them.

Trump didn’t stop that cycle — he continued America’s terrorism abroad. You don’t care when Arabs are being bombed but if America ever turned its guns on Europe you’d be the first to scream “terrorist!” That’s hypocrisy at its finest.

And now Trump is even attacking the Pope on social media while cozying up to Tel‑Aviv. So your “hero” isn’t protecting anyone he’s just following orders from outside powers.

So yeah, supporting Trump while ignoring America’s crimes is peak hypocrisy. You hate immigrants, but it’s Western wars that made them refugees in the first place.

Unfortunately many things you said are true ...

PW

[MVitaly5]

Democracy won
Woodman, Putin and that orange fuckin gorilla lost

Remember Pierre wanted that orange monkey to come back because he would bring world peace and everything would be cheaper
how's that working out?

What does Putin have to do with this, again?)
I saw in the news that after the Hungarian elections, at a rally for the “Tisza” party, a bunch of young idiots were shouting, “Russia, get out!” It’s always made me laugh and amused me.
Yeah, who the hell needs you and your Hungary?
Putin doesn’t give a damn who he sells oil and gas to, or anything else, like building nuclear power plants. Right now, especially with the situation in the Middle East, Russia is making a ton of money. It can’t meet all the demand in Asian markets, so it sells energy resources at a premium. Russia doesn’t give a damn about your Europe! Go ahead and die of hunger or war over there—that’s your problem! Ukraine will be over sooner or later, but what will you do when you no longer have the “Ukraine excuse” to use in front of your own people for all your problems?
Personally, as a Russian, I couldn’t care less who becomes prime minister in Hungary. I never had any warm feelings toward Orbán, knowing his past. And it’s even more ridiculous when your deceitful and foolish propaganda called Orbán a friend of Russia or Putin. That’s utter nonsense! Orbán was simply thinking about his own country’s national priorities, rather than running errands for the European Commission to the detriment of his own country.
Orbán and Magyar worked together for a long time under the wing of Soros’s foundations. It was simply in the interests of Soros and the liberal global lobbies to promote a globalist liberal candidate, which is what Magyar became. So yes, "democracy has triumphed"—they’ve swapped one thing for another, just the same, much to the delight of the herd of sheep; they’ve pulled off yet another masterful manipulation))
Before the election, Magyar was all talk, but now he’ll be running to kiss Putin’s ass so that Russia not only doesn’t cut off the flow but also sells energy resources at the prices set in long-term contracts. And right after the election, Magyar said he would negotiate with Putin. He was just showing off to his voters before the election, and he’s doing the same now. Chattering and manipulating a foolish herd isn’t real action. Since 2014, they’ve been telling you all fairy tales about cutting ties with Russian energy, and you still have a bunch of fools who believe this nonsense. That is, if Putin even deigns to talk to the Magyars. It depends on how he behaves. But if Hungary refuses supplies from Russia and panders to the Brussels bureaucracy, then Hungary is finished. You’ll be destitute. Have you seen the prices at gas stations in France or England? That’s exactly what you’ll have in Hungary. And everything depends on energy prices!
That’s why Russia doesn’t care who’s in charge of Hungary—Russia has long relied only on itself!
And the Hungarian youth who voted for Magyar will get all the “European liberal values and freedoms” they so desired: gay pride parades, and the like, as well as the opportunity for self-realization at the expense of—and to the detriment of—public order, national peace, and national interests...

[PIERRE WOODMAN]

Before react about Peter Magyar election I wanted wait a bit to see what he will say and do first !!!

To be honest for me as a foreigner but married to an hungarian women I only wish there is a strong man who control the country and THE SECURITY stay the same ...

My fear is about the fact I don't see how someone been helped by Brussels can go against Brussels !!!
Hungarians complained about the money Orban is supposed have put in his pocket but for me what is the difference if now a part of the EU money instead go in the pocket of Orban it goes in the pocket of Zelensky
( And considering that Magyar will be honest of course )
Ah yes there is a difference, Zelensky it will be 10 to 100 times more !!!

But out of that, it seems Magyar wants keep the same line than Orban in most parts, No illegal migrants, and for all the other things it seems what was supposed be changed will be but for the same at the end ...
All medias will get a new team on his side, and same about police justice etc ... the control will be still there but with a different name !!!
So I don't think there will be a big difference and I only hope Von der Leyen and Soros will not have too much power on this young guy who claim all the bad infos about him was build by medias ( it's not impossible when I see what my ennemies are ready to pretend about me sometimes ) and for now I have to accept the fact a country decided by herself who she wants on the top and I am ready to believe like I did in 2017 with Macron, that maybe Magyar will be a good prime minister for Hungary !!!
Futur as always will bring all answers ...

https://www.lepoint.fr/monde/vous-mavez ... TQVJB7MGM/


Et si ca c’est vrai sa politique commence à me plaire !!!

PW

[PIERRE WOODMAN]

Bon sous reserve que cela soit bien le cas voici les dernières rumeurs en date :

https://x.com/silvano_trotta/status/2044000125287035134

D'après les informations communiquées par des sources du renseignement serbe, le véritable objectif de la « défaite » d'Orban est de lui permettre de devenir le cheval de Troie que Donald Trump souhaite placer au cœur de l'Union européenne.

Le président américain souhaiterait que l'ancien Premier ministre hongrois soit le prochain candidat à la présidence de la Commission européenne, actuellement occupée par Ursula von der Leyen, qui dirige une majorité de plus en plus fragile et a déjà survécu à une motion de censure, signe de profondes fractures au sein des institutions de l'UE.

Trump a plus d'un tour dans son sac pour discréditer von der Leyen, et parmi celles-ci, la plus sérieuse semble être celle liée à l'affaire Pfizer. Ursula, en plus d'avoir effacé plusieurs SMS échangés avec le PDG de Pfizer, Albert Bourla, aurait bénéficié d'un énorme pot-de-vin de 760 millions de dollars déguisé en « commission » versée par la multinationale pharmaceutique susmentionnée à son mari Heiko, embauché « providentiellement » par une société appelée Orgenesis, elle-même liée à Pfizer.

Il s'agit probablement du plus important pot-de-vin de l'histoire européenne, mais le seul journaliste à l'avoir révélé, le Roumain Adrian Onciu, a perdu son emploi pour cela, tandis que ses autres « collègues » des médias traditionnels sont trop occupés à accuser Moscou et Budapest de corruption pour regarder sous le tapis bruxellois, où pullulent pots-de-vin et commissions occultes pour les différents commissaires.

L’affaire Pfizer n’est cependant pas la seule arme dont disposent Trump et Orban.

L'ancien Premier ministre hongrois a lui-même constitué un dossier conséquent sur toutes les graves irrégularités financières impliquant Ursula von der Leyen et l'a présenté au Parlement européen en août dernier, évidemment sans que la presse n'en fasse état.

Orban s'est notamment concentré sur l'énorme somme du fonds de cohésion, qui s'élevait à 392 milliards d'euros, dont deux ont fini à l'ancienne université von der Leyen, où la présidente de la Commission européenne enseignait l'épidémiologie à la fin des années 1990.

Selon Orban, Von der Leyen s'est rendue coupable du détournement de fonds publics le plus classique, destinés non pas à des travaux et initiatives d'utilité quelconque, mais à des institutions de tous types, toujours liées à Von der Leyen elle-même et aux autres commissaires européens.

La même dynamique se serait produite avec le volet financement du programme NextGeneration EU, dans lequel quelque 5 milliards d'euros ont fini par atterrir dans diverses sociétés de conseil en Allemagne, une fois de plus liées au président de la Commission européenne, le plus généreux envers lui-même en matière de tels dons.

Il s'agit en réalité de la partie émergée d'un iceberg dont nous commençons à peine à apercevoir la pointe.

En dessous, il y a d'autres prêts, comme ceux du tristement célèbre PNRR, alloués à des contrats fantômes à des entreprises liées à divers partis politiques, sur lesquels, cependant, le pouvoir judiciaire ne semble pas avoir l'intention d'enquêter, car si une pièce du puzzle s'effondre, toutes les autres s'effondreraient en cascade.

L'euphorie qui règne à Bruxelles fera peut-être place à la perplexité lorsqu'il deviendra évident que rien n'a changé à Budapest, tandis qu'Orban est désormais libre de se présenter à la présidence de la Commission européenne, muni d'une valise pleine de documents qui révèlent les squelettes dans le placard d'Ursula von der Leyen.

Kirill Dmitriev, proche conseiller de Vladimir Poutine, semblait l'avoir compris lorsqu'il a commenté les résultats des élections hongroises, déclarant que ces résultats ne feraient qu'accélérer la chute de l'Union européenne, fragile et isolée.

À Moscou comme à Washington, tout le monde est parfaitement conscient de ce qui va se passer.

À Bruxelles, en revanche, on célébrait une mesure visant à donner un élan décisif au régime de l'UE.

Les derniers à comprendre l'histoire sont toujours ceux qui refusent d'en accepter les verdicts.

PW

[MVitaly5]

Le problème, c'est simplement que Trump lui-même, par ses agissements stupides, risque bientôt de se retrouver en position de « canard boiteux » lorsque les démocrates prendront le pouvoir au Congrès en novembre. Et cela semble inévitable, à moins d'un miracle ou d'une guerre civile aux États-Unis provoquée par les mesures répressives de l'administration actuelle. Trump s'est brouillé avec tout le monde : avec les principaux influenceurs du mouvement MAGA aux États-Unis, et avec le reste du monde. Aussi puissant que soit le lobby sioniste aux États-Unis, il ne pourra pas aider Trump. Quant à l'élite politique européenne actuelle, y compris les eurocrates de Bruxelles, ce sont tous des marionnettes de l'establishment mondialiste américain proche du Parti démocrate. Et ils ne craignent plus vraiment Trump, après que ce dernier a commis une série de bêtises et que bon nombre de ses décisions et actions ont été discréditées ; l'annulation judiciaire de ses droits de douane, sa politique de déstabilisation extérieure, sa rhétorique anti-OTAN, etc. J'accueillerais volontiers les actions de Trump visant à détruire l'OTAN, mais je sais que Trump est un imbécile et un bavard, et qu'il n'y parviendra pas.
Si Trump était un homme et un politicien intelligent, et non un narcissique psychopathe stupide souffrant d’un « complexe du Messie », il mettrait en œuvre son programme électoral ; il ne se serait pas engagé dans des guerres absurdes et ruineuses, il aurait donné la priorité à l'économie et à l'ordre intérieur aux États-Unis, il aurait établi de bonnes relations avec les superpuissances que sont la Russie et la Chine, et il aurait alors disposé de leviers d'influence sur l'Union européenne et son élite politique. Or, le soutien de l'administration Trump n'a apporté à Orbán qu'une défaite aux élections. Et Trump a déjà déclaré à propos d'Orbán : « Il ÉTAIT mon ami ! » Trump n'aime pas les perdants, et il n'a pas d'amis parmi les politiciens d'autres pays.
C'est pourquoi, si des forces politiques proches du Parti démocrate arrivent au pouvoir aux États-Unis, il est peu probable que le pouvoir et l'influence de von der Leyen et de son équipe soient ébranlés. Et leur nature criminelle ne sera révélée que par les historiens.
En tout cas, je regarde ce qui se passe chez vous dans l’Union européenne, et je n’ai que des pensées sceptiques. Ils vont encore mener leurs manipulations habituelles lors des élections au Parlement européen et le troupeau élira les « bonnes » personnes.

[PIERRE WOODMAN]

I think you're right it will be difficult for Trump to get back the love form the MAGA influencers and the fact he fight with some of his best supporters like Tucker Carlson ( over 20 million followers ) will not help him !!!

Myself I feel very disappointed by the way he drive his mandat !!! One day white one day black it changes constantly and I do not understand why he started thsi Iran war after they killed so many people instead help them when they were in the street
Now all is just a chaos as usually it happens when american start a war and never finish it correctly ...

In Hungary new prime minister want taxe the rich people ...
The same as Macron said he will do in 2017. But many people went to Hungary because the charges on companies are only 9% and the system is good. But a lot of people want run to Bulgaria now ...
So I am curious to see if at the end it will be not the same like in France when Macron arrived we had 2000 Milliard if debt but today 3500 Milliards and europe voted yesterday 90 Milliard euros for Ukrain that in theory Moscow is supposed to pay when the war will be finished ( what a good joke ) and 17 Milliard on these 90 must be paid by France and now of course Hungary will have to give a part too ...
So as I said maybe as everyone pretend in medias Orban has stolen 1 or 2 milliard from Bruxelles not from the Hungarians but now in the next 4 years how many milliards Hungarians citizens will have to pay for Zelensky ???
Maybe I am wrong and Magyar will be a good prime minister but for me it looks very strange for now.
From experience I know left side politic push rich people to go abroad and the all economy collaps inside the country.
Let see what we will have ...

PW

[MVitaly5]

The fact is that the U.S. and Israel “helped” by staging blatant provocations and engaging in the most brazen and insolent interference in Iran’s internal affairs, organizing protest movements within a sovereign state. Trump doesn’t shy away from talking nonstop, and he himself openly admitted that they armed militant groups (from Kurdish tribes) and some small groups of Iranians who were deliberately infiltrated into the peaceful protest movement in Iran. Trump’s quote: “We (the U.S. CIA) sent them (Kurdish groups and others) weapons for the protests, but one of the groups kept the weapons for themselves and refused to participate in the protests.” This fully proves that the protest movement in Iran was man-made and organized from outside! These same armed groups deliberately fired on people, attempting to create as many symbolic casualties as possible among ordinary citizens, and then blamed pro-government forces for it. This is a cliché used by all organizations behind coups d’état and color revolutions. And the only ones who fail to understand this are the majority of naive ordinary people around the world, whose emotions and support are being exploited! And the saddest thing is that you all constantly fall for these manipulations. All your mainstream propaganda constantly lies and deliberately demonizes the target of intervention or aggression! There were NOT 45,000 deaths during the protests in Iran. It’s all a lie!!! Moreover, this figure kept rising as Western propaganda and politicians falsely demonized the Iranian government. Because they realized that the aggression against Iran was no longer going according to plan, and to justify themselves, they constantly raised the bar to manipulate the crowd’s emotions. It’s obvious!!! Now this "litmus test" is Iran’s notorious nuclear weapons, the development of which was never part of the Iranian government’s plans. But Trump and Netanyahu themselves artificially created this problem, which didn’t exist. And now, to justify themselves, they constantly exploit this “scare tactic”!
Yes, there were many deaths in Iran during the protests, but even among those who died, the majority of peaceful protesters were killed by armed groups planted within the crowd, not by pro-government forces. The latter had to use weapons as well, because there were many armed groups among the protesters. And there’s no question of 45,000 deaths. That figure is grossly exaggerated. But the thousands of Iranians—children and women—who died during the US and Israeli bombing of Iran? That’s the truth! That’s how the US “helped” the Iranians! The US has never helped anyone unless it served their own interests. Remember this once and for all! And it doesn’t matter which president or party is in power there.

Understand that there are dissatisfied people in every country in the world!!!
But if any EU country or the United States were subjected to such brazen and blatant external interference in their internal affairs; paid for protest movements, supplied these protest groups with weapons, waged aggressive propaganda and provocations, demonized the government bodies in those countries, and so on, you would already be drowning in blood!!!
It’s just that such methods aren’t currently used by any countries other than Western ones. Any competent political scientist will tell you: “Give me the necessary resources and don’t get in my way, and I’ll orchestrate a color revolution in any country in the world, even one that appears to be the most prosperous on the surface!”

So here’s the bottom line: don’t fall for the lies and provocations—they’re exploiting your emotions. And the goals behind this aggression against Iran are absolutely not humanitarian; don’t delude yourselves, and don’t fall for this deceitful, hypocritical crap again! That’s the first point. As for the second, well, you killed the Ayatollah. Are you satisfied? All you’ve done is unite even more Iranians and create the situation we’re seeing now. Did you think you’d kill an old man who became a martyr and “do a favor” for all Iranians? Or that by killing the leader of a sovereign country, you’ve “protected” all of you from the supposed threat from Iran and now you’re going to pop open the champagne? Is that what you thought? No, for thinking people who can predict the situation, who think not with emotions but logically, analytically, and strategically, it was obvious where all this would lead. Were you happy that you killed the leader of the Iranian people? Well, now you’re going to have to clean up this mess with a full scoop! Nothing personal, and no offense meant—just the facts!!!




As for Hungary, the problem is that, in reality, Hungary does not enjoy full sovereignty—neither political nor economic!!!
And the less experienced the leader in Hungary, the more he will succumb to pressure.
Hungary depends on many external factors. On money from Brussels, which constantly blackmails it, demanding compliance with all the conditions set by the Brussels administration. That’s the kind of “freedom” and “independence” you have.)
Hungary is still very lucky that, despite its Russophobic stance, the oil and gas tap from Russia hasn’t been turned off yet. And no matter how much the Magyars strut and puff themselves up, they depend on everyone!!!
And consequently, you, living in Hungary, depend on everyone!!! The only problem is that your voting electorate doesn’t understand this, because for the most part, they think only of their own personal, selfish, and short-term interests and pleasures...

[bubborick]

I am a (former) Trumper. I am American, white, conservative and right winger but basically Trump (and his offshots around the world, like retard Milei, retard Bolsonaro, and other faggots) are now just wussies that suck Billionaire/Trillionaire balls and drink their piss (while the Billionaires and Trillionaires just say they are going to KILL US ALL, including us AMERICANS, like that black-hindo-mixed-blood dark skinned Karp from Palantir that just keeps bouncing on chairs with a dildo up his ass, while giving interviews and laughing like a retarded dumbass while saying shit like "you going to be all dead in a year anyway", "we are digging bunkers and you are all gonna fry because you are poor", "our Jesus only like homo-billionaires like my boss Thiel and his lover Musk and he is going to kill all of you subhuman working class" and other shit, while the Western billionaires LITERALLY are EATING BABIES AND R*PING LITTLE CHILDREN WHILE SUCKING FETUSES BLOOD, so really crazy satanic shit in name of "Redneck Warmongering Kindergarten-bombing Jesus").

Point is: Trump just said on Truth Social he is going to bomb Brazil and Colombia (because we getting our asses kicked in Iran, so he is going to bomb weak homo countries that cannot defend themselves because their people dream to come to Florida so they can be illegal aliens cleaning my toilet and seeing Disneyworld). Why in hell are we going to bomb Brazil? Or Colombia? Why we supporting Christian Evangelical fundamentalists on those countries that want TO COVER BEAUTIFUL BRAZILIAN AND COLOMBIAN GIRLS ASSES with some Christian burka shit? If I didn't have a family I would put my 2nd ammendment rights to a good use, because our country needs a second civil war to clean AT LEAST half of our population and, especially, parasite South African Nazi billionaire homo child r*apists like Musk and Thiel.

[PIERRE WOODMAN]

I think you go to far in your opinions !!!
Munsk for sure is a particular person but personaly I don't see him been part of all these crazy satanics rituals neither Trump for is for sure not attracted by childrens ( I have my sources ) ...
The "shaddows monsters" are more people very important that most of the public don't even know the names ... even if sometimes obviously some big ones appears in the Epsteins files !!!

Someone told me yesterday that all what Trump does at the moment is only making his business better but also this fills the American debt ...

We will see at the end.

PW