lindenlaub, do you mean old like in:

- I am a big Woodman fan and bought his DVD, VHS etc. in the past

- Most of the castings are more than one year old

or ...

- You downloaded all the material via illegal websites the last years

liabatyd

Grossemite wrote:

andi1950 wrote:

ibou12 wrote:But you could still kick the pirates asses.

Sorry, as a network specialist NEVER EVER!!!!!!

There is nothing we can do about "piracy" but being a pain in the ass of the pirate is possible.
Dogfart is handling the problem the right way. PW is not handling the problem the right way. Result: Pirates can make more money sharing PW's work than DogFart stuff.

Aha, yeah I forgot the 400GB on Usenet when you search for DogFart!

So, that is the right way, okay now I know it!

in the late 80s and the 90s i consumed a lot of original material: all castings from pierre on vhs and dvd, also genuine private films and magazines in all forms, bought them or rent them in a videostore. also a lot of other shit like ggg-films etc. and i spent more than 150000-200000 deutsche mark in this fun-sport. I have made my contribution to the porn-industry, especially to pierres money-pocket. i can say, that pierres films were the best ever produced.
but he should be so smart to know that he has no chance against copying.
long time i was a member on wcx and pissoflove, but after the stopping of pissandlove, i stopped my membership, too many old shit appeared and no really new material and i bought only some interesting castings per credits.
after more than 20 years as a consumer of porn i have found that this employment is not the meaning of life...

greetings from germany

lindenlaub

OK we have understood your ego is bigger than your brain Lindenlaub, it's fine it's your right to think my work is just shit as I can consider you also like a peace of shit after what you said !!! 50 / 50 everybody's happy !!! But deeply we don't care what you said we just speak about piracy here not about your personnal taste, particulary when I can see the big success of the americans on the site !

About not give the chance to download and just give streaming, it doesn't change nothing, with real player or some other software you pick-up any kind of video on the net.
It will just take off to the loyal members the chance to see the videos in full HD !!!

No there is no other solution at the moment than the members support and as said Grossemite, if one day I have to close the site because of the missing of support it will be because people want watch the content I produce without paid one Euro for this. Then they will understand why they will NEVER have the chance to see what they was dreaming for ...

PW

ibou12 wrote: But if tomorrow Pierre's website is dead, he could earn 5k a month posting his videos to forums. It would be better than nothing. And it would kill the profit of other people making money on his back.

LOL ! I guess that's the price you have to pay when you complain all the time that the situation is catastrophic and that there's no hope in sight ! You get some nice fellow full of good intentions that gives you a little tap in the back and goes: "Oh poor little Woody, don't worry. I'm gonna teach you how to make some business. Let me explain you how to make a few bucks with your material... We don't want you sleeping in the streets..."

Anyway, would be interesting to know how much profit PW actually makes every month (don't jump on me Pierre, I'm not really asking ). And what would be the reaction of the fans if presented with the actual figure. Hmmm... Not so sure his ramblings would get so much support

Ahahahaah yes of course it's easy to said ! Many people want see me as a millionnaire, I don't know why !!! Of course there is some income of money at WCX and WUNF, I'm not the red-cross, but for instance, I've spend more than 10K to do the Indecent Evil trailer expecting it will give motivation to the public but in September I changed my plan and did not produced the entire movie just because I know all this money will go in the hand of the piracy and I will never get back more than 30% of my investment !
It's why you're wrong when you think I earn so much ! I have on a side, business from real estates to others which gives me the chance to work in porn and handle some lost sometime without crying to much but all has a limit and for sure 2012 will be my last year in porn if nothing change on the internet !!!

PW

Grossemite wrote:
Dude, if he closes and hide his videos forever, it won't be only a revenge against the pirates, it will be a revenge against the thousands (at the least) of people who loves his work but never accepted to pay for it.

And I think it's fair.

Of course it would be fair.
But being fair is not the point when we talk about business and piracy.

If Pierre closes his websites, there will be no revenge. Because pirates will continue to share every single video Pierre ever released. And they will continue to make money from them for the next 50 years.

andi1950 wrote:
Aha, yeah I forgot the 400GB on Usenet when you search for DogFart!

So, that is the right way, okay now I know it!

So, you are a Usenet user...
But Usenet is not the biggest problem in the world of piracy today.
Forums & blogs are a much more annoying issue. Because 100 millions people are using them every day. Everybody makes money (uploaders and file hosters) except the copyright holder.

Why using Usenet to download some DogFart or PW stuff, if you can get the whole thing legally using forums.
Cause if the copyright holder uploads the whole thing, it becomes legal, of course...

The next 50 years ??? Don't dream, the day this industry will really collapse, porn will die completly and only the Chat will survive ( I suppose ! ).
XV for instance does 35 millions download by day which means over a Billion by month !!! Each person who put an ad on his website paid between 35 and 350 000 €uros
Good business the piracy... I am a small player when I request 29,90 € for exclusive produced content !
Anyway this discussion doesn't have any sens, I love porn and will do it until I consider the red ligne is over and basta ! But then, if that day happen, for sure I will never come back ...

PW

The porn industry won't die.
Big companies like your Manwin buddies are making huge money. And they will continue to do business for a long time.

Smaller companies are still surviving too. Companies much smaller than yours. Like John B. Root, Fabian Lafait, JTC Video, ...

And if they die, other small players will replace them.

But there is a funny thing. Pirates are killing the "porn industry" but they are keeping the "porn" alive.
It is still possible to download porn from retired/dead pornstars, or even dead companies. Brigitte Lahaie, John Holmes, Teresa Orlowski, ... Movies shot 30 or 40 years ago because pirates ripped that porn, kept it and shared it.

So yes, if you stop tomorrow, people will still download and enjoy your work for the next 50 years.
Using forums, and tube sites, and other stuff. Because piracy websites won't die. They make big money and the authorities don't care about the porn industry.

ibou12, relax.. watch some porn