RUSSIA - UKRAINE 2022 CONFLICT

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gRaPL4bJ5eg - This is my favorite, cause it's Shahed drone, the Ukrainians use it. Be careful who you blame
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https://youtube.com/shorts/ZolCM423bKs? ... TzHqqWdiuG

exact same drones in russian factory, careful who you blame

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Just a few days ago, I saw a drone explode from my window at night. Fortunately, it was shot down by the excellent Russian air defense forces


ill take 500 on things that never happened alex

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https://youtu.be/T3_8eXg6teg?si=CNSXR-5OuVHWICBE

bombing civilians again.. but dont worry blackson has a fucking picture that proves............well nothing

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PIERRE WOODMAN wrote:
Sat Dec 27, 2025 8:42 am
But Peetee are you a kid ???
Such videos what ever is the camp are always same ...
Just watch what have said one of the Hitler best general on court after the war :
"How many jews do you want me to say we have killed ??? 5000, 50000 or 500000 ??? I tell you what you want but please don't do again what you did to my balls !!! "
Everyone in deadly situation, most of the time after been torured, can say what ever the people want. It was ALWAYS like this and it will NEVER change !!!
It's obvious some russians did horrible things but it's also clear Ukrainians did the same, it's called WAR !!!

Sur un sujet un peu different suite à l'annonce de Macron d'armer la France cette video là met les pendules à l'heure !!!
Et n'en déplaise à certain, une fois de plus Poutine ridiculise Macron parce que ce qu'il dit est vrai ...

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/mEhZ-lKEpnc

PW
your correct , they should of massaged his feet, made his favourite meal, i mean murdering and raping civilians is not that bad

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Listen ...
This evening I was with a friend who is far to be an idiot and showed me various evidences about this sad war !!!
I have been obliged to step back in my opinion about something I thought true but is not.

In fact there are not any official document signed between Russia and a West country about a non extension of NATO.
Just a verbal sentence from an US foreign minister and a speech from a German foreign minister. That's all ...

https://nsarchive.gwu.edu/briefing-book ... ders-early

So yes of course a word is a word but an offcial document count more ...

It doesn't excuse the killing of russophone population in Ukrain by Kiev gouvernment but it changes a lot the configuration of what Russia can pretend about the NATO extension ...

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PIERRE WOODMAN wrote:
Sun Dec 28, 2025 12:26 am
Listen ...
This evening I was with a friend who is far to be an idiot and showed me various evidences about this sad war !!!
I have been obliged to step back in my opinion about something I thought true but is not.

In fact there are not any official document signed between Russia and a West country about a non extension of NATO.
Just a verbal sentence from an US foreign minister and a speech from a German foreign minister. That's all ...

https://nsarchive.gwu.edu/briefing-book ... ders-early

So yes of course a word is a word but an offcial document count more ...

It doesn't excuse the killing of russophone population in Ukrain by Kiev gouvernment but it changes a lot the configuration of what Russia can pretend about the NATO extension ...

PW
NATO only exists because of russia

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peetee1 wrote:
Sat Dec 27, 2025 10:42 pm
https://youtu.be/T3_8eXg6teg?si=CNSXR-5OuVHWICBE

bombing civilians again.. but dont worry blackson has a fucking picture that proves............well nothing
The photo proved that you should not believe everything you see. You showed a video of Ukraine being bombed by the weaponry supposedly used by Russians, while on the photo you've got the Ukrainian soldiers who used this drones. Don't trust anything you hear, trust only 50% you see.
peetee1 wrote:
Sun Dec 28, 2025 12:44 am

NATO only exists because of russia
NATO started existing because of the USSR, and the USSR is long gone, check your facts beforehand. You clearly are unable to present them properly

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PIERRE WOODMAN wrote:
Sun Dec 28, 2025 12:26 am
Listen ...
This evening I was with a friend who is far to be an idiot and showed me various evidences about this sad war !!!
I have been obliged to step back in my opinion about something I thought true but is not.

In fact there are not any official document signed between Russia and a West country about a non extension of NATO.
Just a verbal sentence from an US foreign minister and a speech from a German foreign minister. That's all ...

https://nsarchive.gwu.edu/briefing-book ... ders-early

So yes of course a word is a word but an offcial document count more ...

It doesn't excuse the killing of russophone population in Ukrain by Kiev gouvernment but it changes a lot the configuration of what Russia can pretend about the NATO extension ...

PW
What the fuck does that change???
I have written about the lack of an official document many times on this forum, but you only found out about it now. What does that change???
You see, there is a participant here, @Spiderdog, who responded to Russia's claims about NATO's eastward expansion with the help of artificial intelligence, which informed him that "NATO is a defensive bloc, its expansion is 'voluntary' and not bound by any treaties on non-proliferation to the East." You are repeating the same thing, or, as a lawyer, deciding where there is an official document and where there is not. If you were reasoning as an independent analyst, you would think: "Why are the security interests of some countries taken into account, but not Russia's?" This right is enshrined in the UN Charter! "Every country has the right to ensure its security, but not to the detriment of another country's security!"
Russia was given promises by officials and leaders of NATO countries when it withdrew its troops from East Germany and Eastern Europe as a whole, and from the point of view of security interests, Russia cannot be indifferent to the fact that the hostile and criminal NATO bloc is moving towards its borders.
We are talking about Ukraine now. Ukraine's declaration of independence clearly states that this state must be neutral and have non-aligned status!!! The criminal Ukrainian regime wants to join NATO, fine, then Russia will refuse to recognize Ukraine's independence. Are you okay with that? Maybe you want to know some more truth?
The truth is that Trump said they need Greenland because the US needs it for security against Russia and China, and that's it. He doesn't care about Denmark or other European jackals like him.
Ukraine is not Greenland. Ukraine has enormous integration with Russia, historically, ethnically, culturally, linguistically, religiously, economically, etc. In Ukraine, a criminal regime came to power through a coup d'état, unleashed a war against its own people within the country, wants to join the hostile, criminal NATO bloc, disregarding all previously adopted declarations and interests in the field of Russia's security, and Russia is supposed to put up with all this? Is that what you think? I can tell you right now that this will not happen, whether you like it or not, but no one will ask you! We have been talking to you about this for many years and trying to bring you to your senses, but diplomacy has reached its limit!

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"Why are the security interests of some countries taken into account, but not Russia's?"
I agree on that but at same time after the cold war it seems a bit logic that poland, CZ HU etc ... prefer goes to NATO that think maybe the ex USSR could be back ... No ???

At same time even if I am the first to critic the way USA are always trying to destabilize most of other part of the world I must admit a country is supposed be free to decide if she wants be independant, with russia or with Nato !!!
The deep problem is who is honest in this silly game ???
Can we consider Ukrain was really making an "independant" decision or do we have various president there just being the puppet of USA or RUSSIA ( depend the period )
So yes it's complicate particulary for west people to understand who is the less dishonest in this story !!!

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De toute façon, même quand les dirigeants occidentaux (france et allemagne) signent un document officiel (accord de Minsk 1 et 2...), c'est pour ne pas les faire respecter; pas besoin de torture pour les faire avouer, il le font d'eux même (François Hollande et Angela Merkel)!
La parole donnée, ils ne la respectent pas, et leur signature ne vaut rien, les faits sont là

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