you are correct the russian population are sheepMVitaly5 wrote: ↑Fri Dec 05, 2025 2:20 pmBecause I have told you hundreds of times that you do not have nationally oriented leaders in power, and most of the population is a herd of sheep that supports them.
Some enthusiasts have roughly calculated that during his time in China, Macron devoted only 30% of his time to French interests, and the remaining 70% to the problems of Ukraine, or how else to harm Russia.
And even here, some participants in your forum always rebuked me: "No, that's not true, Macron is a leader who thinks only about the French people."
So ask them these questions: where are Jean and the others? You say that you have such an entourage. Ask them where you are headed...
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-------------------------------------------------------------------PIERRE WOODMAN wrote: ↑Sat Dec 06, 2025 5:33 pmEven yesterday, when Putin came to India, he and our Prime Minister sat in a Toyota Fortuner — which is normally just the official vehicle for a commissioner in Mumbai. We usually make foreign leaders sit in a Range Rover or BMW. But Putin is so angry with Europe that he refused both — since Range Rover is from the UK and BMW is from Germany.
Yes and it's terrible because in term of business Russia was a great economic partner for europe. Only if the AFD in Germany or RN in France get to lead their countries there will be a possibility to cool the ambiance but anyway it will never be again as it was when Chirac was in charge. If Chirac was still president today this war in Ukrain will have never started ...This clearly shows how much Europe has lost respect in his eyes
PW
Our relations — I mean India’s relations — with European countries are good, like France, London (UK), and other countries. Meanwhile, Rishi Sunak, who is of Indian origin, became the UK Prime Minister after Boris Johnson. He attends someone’s wedding or the other every year, but the one doing the job of dividing and deceiving is only and only the USA. Now even Europeans are slowly beginning to understand. Trump is doing a double-faced job: on one side, supporting Ukraine and making its situation worse, and on the other side, trying to make a settlement with Russia from behind the scenes, leaving Europe confused and struggling in the middle.
So, the moral of the story is that the USA cannot truly be anyone’s friend. It can only betray others under the name of friendship — nothing more.
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----------------------------------------------peetee1 wrote: ↑Sun Dec 07, 2025 1:07 amcomplete bullshitkon wrote: ↑Sat Dec 06, 2025 9:58 amWhat has happened is that Europeans still haven’t come out of their old mindset. They think that Europe’s problems are the world’s problems, and the world’s problems are not their problems. When the war began, they believed that if they told India not to buy crude oil from Russia, India would obey. And they thought they would watch how Russia would survive. But the opposite happened — India used to buy only 3%, and now we buy around 40%… and we are selling the same oil to Europe.
Because of that, Europe is struggling now — inflation has gone up. Earlier, Europe was threatening us, saying “Do this, do that,” and now they are requesting India to stop the war.
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Even yesterday, when Putin came to India, he and our Prime Minister sat in a Toyota Fortuner — which is normally just the official vehicle for a commissioner in Mumbai. We usually make foreign leaders sit in a Range Rover or BMW. But Putin is so angry with Europe that he refused both — since Range Rover is from the UK and BMW is from Germany.
This clearly shows how much Europe has lost respect in his eyes… and in the future, a lot more is going to happen. This is just the beginning.
NO bullshit — he is trying to say that we still hate you, and you better improve yourselves, otherwise you will have to face the consequences.
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PIERRE WOODMAN wrote: ↑Sat Dec 06, 2025 5:33 pmEven yesterday, when Putin came to India, he and our Prime Minister sat in a Toyota Fortuner — which is normally just the official vehicle for a commissioner in Mumbai. We usually make foreign leaders sit in a Range Rover or BMW. But Putin is so angry with Europe that he refused both — since Range Rover is from the UK and BMW is from Germany.
PW
Well, relations with Japan aren't great right now either...
As for the US, I agree, but when it comes to European countries, especially post-colonial ones, and especially the UK, I wouldn't get my hopes up too high if I were you. Deep down, they dream of turning you back into a colony so they can plunder and oppress you, just like they did only 70 years ago. Have you forgotten? Believe me, nothing has changed in their mentality and policies. The only thing is that this is no longer possible in modern conditions, so they still have their ambitions and arrogance, but no understanding of the real balance of power in world politics. That's why they have phantom pains about their past greatness. If their policy were smarter, they would have long ago realized that even with the entire "Western world" behind them, they can do nothing against Russia and are losing to it on all counts. They would have begun to adjust their policy to improve relations rather than promote their ambitions, which no longer have any substance and only harm their peoples and future existence. India would be next after Russia and China in their policy of suppressing competitors.kon wrote: ↑Sun Dec 07, 2025 5:54 amOur relations — I mean India’s relations — with European countries are good, like France, London (UK), and other countries. Meanwhile, Rishi Sunak, who is of Indian origin, became the UK Prime Minister after Boris Johnson. He attends someone’s wedding or the other every year, but the one doing the job of dividing and deceiving is only and only the USA. Now even Europeans are slowly beginning to understand. Trump is doing a double-faced job: on one side, supporting Ukraine and making its situation worse, and on the other side, trying to make a settlement with Russia from behind the scenes, leaving Europe confused and struggling in the middle.
So, the moral of the story is that the USA cannot truly be anyone’s friend. It can only betray others under the name of friendship — nothing more.
That is why all these "Rishi Sunaks", despite their Indian roots, do not think about the interests of India or even the UK. Once they get caught up in this "Western politics" cycle, they become mere tools for promoting the interests of global capital. More and more ordinary Europeans are beginning to understand this, which is why these politicians cannot stay in power for long (how many British prime ministers have changed recently) or have extremely low approval ratings. But through skillful manipulation, the shadow power of global capital once again pushes its next temporary protégé into the leadership of European states, and everything starts all over again. Their priority is not to defend national interests, but to promote the interests and ambitions of global capital, which has its roots in the Western political and economic system, centered in the United States. And ordinary Europeans are once again becoming hostages to these manipulative schemes because they succumb to these manipulations and the real lack of freedom of choice in these countries, but only the illusions of this freedom created by propaganda. Either politicians who come to power change radically.
There are no friends in politics; there may be good personal relationships between leaders, but interests (of the state or "shadow masters," as in some Western countries) will always come first.
Don't pay any attention, it's just the old troll. He's back from TikTok chat, where, apart from a few malicious and envious phrases consisting of a few words, he doesn't have enough brains to write anything meaningful.kon wrote: ↑Sun Dec 07, 2025 5:56 am----------------------------------------------peetee1 wrote: ↑Sun Dec 07, 2025 1:07 amcomplete bullshitkon wrote: ↑Sat Dec 06, 2025 9:58 amWhat has happened is that Europeans still haven’t come out of their old mindset. They think that Europe’s problems are the world’s problems, and the world’s problems are not their problems. When the war began, they believed that if they told India not to buy crude oil from Russia, India would obey. And they thought they would watch how Russia would survive. But the opposite happened — India used to buy only 3%, and now we buy around 40%… and we are selling the same oil to Europe.
Because of that, Europe is struggling now — inflation has gone up. Earlier, Europe was threatening us, saying “Do this, do that,” and now they are requesting India to stop the war.
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Even yesterday, when Putin came to India, he and our Prime Minister sat in a Toyota Fortuner — which is normally just the official vehicle for a commissioner in Mumbai. We usually make foreign leaders sit in a Range Rover or BMW. But Putin is so angry with Europe that he refused both — since Range Rover is from the UK and BMW is from Germany.
This clearly shows how much Europe has lost respect in his eyes… and in the future, a lot more is going to happen. This is just the beginning.
NO bullshit — he is trying to say that we still hate you, and you better improve yourselves, otherwise you will have to face the consequences.
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Actually, I was watching a podcast where many talented people from different countries were present. They were discussing that there has been a secret deal between the USA and China. In that deal, both sides have supposedly agreed that the USA will remain the No. 1 power, and its territory of influence will extend over Europe, Latin America, and the UAE. And the USA, in return, will help China become the second most powerful nation, with the rest of the countries falling under China’s influence.
Because now China is also challenging Russia in Siberia, Putin is strengthening ties with India — coming here for deals related to the Navy, Air Force, and other major sectors. So, to counter China, India and Russia are standing together and supporting each other.
This is the kind of geopolitical picture they were trying to explain. I m not sure how much truth there is in this, but this is at least the picture being presented.
Because now China is also challenging Russia in Siberia, Putin is strengthening ties with India — coming here for deals related to the Navy, Air Force, and other major sectors. So, to counter China, India and Russia are standing together and supporting each other.
This is the kind of geopolitical picture they were trying to explain. I m not sure how much truth there is in this, but this is at least the picture being presented.
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MVitaly5 wrote: ↑Sun Dec 07, 2025 7:50 amPIERRE WOODMAN wrote: ↑Sat Dec 06, 2025 5:33 pmEven yesterday, when Putin came to India, he and our Prime Minister sat in a Toyota Fortuner — which is normally just the official vehicle for a commissioner in Mumbai. We usually make foreign leaders sit in a Range Rover or BMW. But Putin is so angry with Europe that he refused both — since Range Rover is from the UK and BMW is from Germany.
PW
Well, relations with Japan aren't great right now either...
As for the US, I agree, but when it comes to European countries, especially post-colonial ones, and especially the UK, I wouldn't get my hopes up too high if I were you. Deep down, they dream of turning you back into a colony so they can plunder and oppress you, just like they did only 70 years ago. Have you forgotten? Believe me, nothing has changed in their mentality and policies. The only thing is that this is no longer possible in modern conditions, so they still have their ambitions and arrogance, but no understanding of the real balance of power in world politics. That's why they have phantom pains about their past greatness. If their policy were smarter, they would have long ago realized that even with the entire "Western world" behind them, they can do nothing against Russia and are losing to it on all counts. They would have begun to adjust their policy to improve relations rather than promote their ambitions, which no longer have any substance and only harm their peoples and future existence. India would be next after Russia and China in their policy of suppressing competitors.kon wrote: ↑Sun Dec 07, 2025 5:54 amOur relations — I mean India’s relations — with European countries are good, like France, London (UK), and other countries. Meanwhile, Rishi Sunak, who is of Indian origin, became the UK Prime Minister after Boris Johnson. He attends someone’s wedding or the other every year, but the one doing the job of dividing and deceiving is only and only the USA. Now even Europeans are slowly beginning to understand. Trump is doing a double-faced job: on one side, supporting Ukraine and making its situation worse, and on the other side, trying to make a settlement with Russia from behind the scenes, leaving Europe confused and struggling in the middle.
So, the moral of the story is that the USA cannot truly be anyone’s friend. It can only betray others under the name of friendship — nothing more.
That is why all these "Rishi Sunaks", despite their Indian roots, do not think about the interests of India or even the UK. Once they get caught up in this "Western politics" cycle, they become mere tools for promoting the interests of global capital. More and more ordinary Europeans are beginning to understand this, which is why these politicians cannot stay in power for long (how many British prime ministers have changed recently) or have extremely low approval ratings. But through skillful manipulation, the shadow power of global capital once again pushes its next temporary protégé into the leadership of European states, and everything starts all over again. Their priority is not to defend national interests, but to promote the interests and ambitions of global capital, which has its roots in the Western political and economic system, centered in the United States. And ordinary Europeans are once again becoming hostages to these manipulative schemes because they succumb to these manipulations and the real lack of freedom of choice in these countries, but only the illusions of this freedom created by propaganda. Either politicians who come to power change radically.
There are no friends in politics; there may be good personal relationships between leaders, but interests (of the state or "shadow masters," as in some Western countries) will always come first.
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The UK and European countries are granting large numbers of refugees ( Muslim ). Some people worry that, one day, those populations might gain significant influence across Europe and create social and cultural disruption.
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In a way, these are all conspiracy theories and speculation. Journalists, analysts, bloggers, retired politicians, military personnel, etc. love to engage in this. I am no exception myself.kon wrote: ↑Sun Dec 07, 2025 10:48 amActually, I was watching a podcast where many talented people from different countries were present. They were discussing that there has been a secret deal between the USA and China. In that deal, both sides have supposedly agreed that the USA will remain the No. 1 power, and its territory of influence will extend over Europe, Latin America, and the UAE. And the USA, in return, will help China become the second most powerful nation, with the rest of the countries falling under China’s influence.
Because now China is also challenging Russia in Siberia, Putin is strengthening ties with India — coming here for deals related to the Navy, Air Force, and other major sectors. So, to counter China, India and Russia are standing together and supporting each other.
This is the kind of geopolitical picture they were trying to explain. I m not sure how much truth there is in this, but this is at least the picture being presented.
Logic and history tell us that only the US and the West as a whole have a tradition of global hegemony after the collapse of the Soviet Union, and they are feverishly clinging to it, but their time has already passed, or is practically over. China, Russia, India, and other superpowers have no such aspirations. These countries promote the idea of multipolarity. I partly agree with you that, in any case, several superpowers will have global influence in the world, but it is unlikely that this will be limited to only two states (the US and China). That is my opinion. It is very difficult to bring states such as Russia, India, and Brazil under one's influence. I can only speak with certainty about Russia, because in its most recent history and traditions, Russia has never been under anyone's influence. Russia is a very self-sufficient country, and the Soviet Union always lived under sanctions. The entire periodic table is found in large quantities on Russian territory. In fact, Russia doesn't even need to import anything into its country. It's just a bunch of stupid idiots in the West who thought that if Russia was deprived of iPhones, BMWs, and Mercedes, it would collapse. They also thought that if Russia was deprived of oil revenues, it would not be able to finance a special military operation in Ukraine. Only 13% of the Russian budget consists of oil revenues!!! So this is also a stupid idea. But the fact that they have greatly mobilized Russia for effective and accelerated development, I am even grateful to them for that. I am not saying that sanctions and other obstacles do not harm Russia, but in any case, they will not be critical enough to force Russia to give up its interests and sovereignty. As for China and India, they have powerful economies, but they lack resources. Therefore, objectively speaking, if these countries were subject to the same sanctions as Russia, they would have a much harder time, especially India. This is because India's economy is very export-oriented, while China is the "world's factory" and has its own "trump cards up its sleeve." Your countries (India and China) have a big advantage: their huge populations. You can live and support your economies even through the domestic market. Russia lacks labor, but with the development of robotics and artificial intelligence, this will be somewhat offset.
As for China and Siberia, I heard these speculations back in the 1990s, during the crisis in Russia. There is no Chinese expansion into Siberia or other regions of Russia. It's all nonsense. Therefore, China cannot challenge Russia over Siberia for the following reasons:
1). Russia and China have friendly relations, and I think they will only grow stronger in the near future, because both countries understand perfectly well that it is better for them to stand together against the aggression and hegemonic ambitions of the West.
2). China is not economically strong enough to have a decisive influence on political processes in Russia, and as I have already said, Russia is a self-sufficient state. Russia has a trade surplus with both China and India, meaning that Russia sells more to you than it buys from you. What kind of economic expansion or critical influence can we even talk about?
3). I can say without exaggeration that Russia's military power is currently the strongest in the world. This is not because I am Russian, but based on objective indicators of all available resources and combat experience. Therefore, it is also foolish to talk about China's military expansion in Russia.
4). China has no such ambitions or tradition of military or economic expansion. To be honest, I would even like China to not just talk about its development and economic and other successes, but to take action. After all, they have direct economic interests in Iran and Venezuela, and what? I don't see where China's interests are being protected yet.
I think all this talk in your mainstream media is largely due to the fact that there are many points of tension and competition between China and India.
Not long ago, a high-level Russian delegation visited China, where Putin was greeted with great pomp and the utmost respect and friendliness. And recently, with the same pomp in India. I think that the leaders of the three countries: Russia, India, and China should think more about equal relations between themselves and jointly oppose the ambitions and aggressive actions of the West, rather than competing for global influence or cultivating various conspiracy theories aimed at creating mistrust or tension, because that is exactly what Western politics wants!
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Merci MVitaly pour ce post absolument passionnant, c'est à chaque fois un festin que de vous lire!
Et plus généralement merci à la Russie qui nous "oblige", nous occidentaux, à nous remettre en question de notre arrogance naturelle (sur les autres peuples) et à nous interroger sur le REEL, pas les fantasmes qui appartiennent au passé.
Et plus généralement merci à la Russie qui nous "oblige", nous occidentaux, à nous remettre en question de notre arrogance naturelle (sur les autres peuples) et à nous interroger sur le REEL, pas les fantasmes qui appartiennent au passé.
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Merci Tango pour ces mots aimables!TangoJLB75 wrote: ↑Sun Dec 07, 2025 12:49 pmMerci MVitaly pour ce post absolument passionnant, c'est à chaque fois un festin que de vous lire!
Et plus généralement merci à la Russie qui nous "oblige", nous occidentaux, à nous remettre en question de notre arrogance naturelle (sur les autres peuples) et à nous interroger sur le REEL, pas les fantasmes qui appartiennent au passé.
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it is bullshit inflation has gone down, its amazing that mvitaly lives in a town bombed everday and the internet and electricity are never effectedMVitaly5 wrote: ↑Sun Dec 07, 2025 7:50 amPIERRE WOODMAN wrote: ↑Sat Dec 06, 2025 5:33 pmEven yesterday, when Putin came to India, he and our Prime Minister sat in a Toyota Fortuner — which is normally just the official vehicle for a commissioner in Mumbai. We usually make foreign leaders sit in a Range Rover or BMW. But Putin is so angry with Europe that he refused both — since Range Rover is from the UK and BMW is from Germany.
PW
Well, relations with Japan aren't great right now either...
As for the US, I agree, but when it comes to European countries, especially post-colonial ones, and especially the UK, I wouldn't get my hopes up too high if I were you. Deep down, they dream of turning you back into a colony so they can plunder and oppress you, just like they did only 70 years ago. Have you forgotten? Believe me, nothing has changed in their mentality and policies. The only thing is that this is no longer possible in modern conditions, so they still have their ambitions and arrogance, but no understanding of the real balance of power in world politics. That's why they have phantom pains about their past greatness. If their policy were smarter, they would have long ago realized that even with the entire "Western world" behind them, they can do nothing against Russia and are losing to it on all counts. They would have begun to adjust their policy to improve relations rather than promote their ambitions, which no longer have any substance and only harm their peoples and future existence. India would be next after Russia and China in their policy of suppressing competitors.kon wrote: ↑Sun Dec 07, 2025 5:54 amOur relations — I mean India’s relations — with European countries are good, like France, London (UK), and other countries. Meanwhile, Rishi Sunak, who is of Indian origin, became the UK Prime Minister after Boris Johnson. He attends someone’s wedding or the other every year, but the one doing the job of dividing and deceiving is only and only the USA. Now even Europeans are slowly beginning to understand. Trump is doing a double-faced job: on one side, supporting Ukraine and making its situation worse, and on the other side, trying to make a settlement with Russia from behind the scenes, leaving Europe confused and struggling in the middle.
So, the moral of the story is that the USA cannot truly be anyone’s friend. It can only betray others under the name of friendship — nothing more.
That is why all these "Rishi Sunaks", despite their Indian roots, do not think about the interests of India or even the UK. Once they get caught up in this "Western politics" cycle, they become mere tools for promoting the interests of global capital. More and more ordinary Europeans are beginning to understand this, which is why these politicians cannot stay in power for long (how many British prime ministers have changed recently) or have extremely low approval ratings. But through skillful manipulation, the shadow power of global capital once again pushes its next temporary protégé into the leadership of European states, and everything starts all over again. Their priority is not to defend national interests, but to promote the interests and ambitions of global capital, which has its roots in the Western political and economic system, centered in the United States. And ordinary Europeans are once again becoming hostages to these manipulative schemes because they succumb to these manipulations and the real lack of freedom of choice in these countries, but only the illusions of this freedom created by propaganda. Either politicians who come to power change radically.
There are no friends in politics; there may be good personal relationships between leaders, but interests (of the state or "shadow masters," as in some Western countries) will always come first.
Don't pay any attention, it's just the old troll. He's back from TikTok chat, where, apart from a few malicious and envious phrases consisting of a few words, he doesn't have enough brains to write anything meaningful.