There is no Armagedon or WW3 !!!
just a bunch of people playing chess with 8 billions of ants ... nothing else. This nuclear story in Iran is just a good reason to make them understand that they have to stop to support Hezbollah and Hamas in future or they will be eradicate from the map. They will also push the palestinian to Jordania in order to build a "jew riviera" able to take the part of market that South Arabia and UAE are controling more and more in the middle orient.
Many people have confirmed that the uranium is prepared at 800 meters deep and it was obvious they were not stupid enough to wait the USA bombing knowing for years they can be destroyed until 60 / 80 meters !!!
Always the same dirty games, playing with us , giving fake informations, making even family fight ( I actually know 2 families who are in total chaos and hate because of the Russia / Ukrain war .... This is one of the hundred of collateral dammages the politic can bring, having on first the fact apparently aliready a million people died !!!
This planet is just more and more flammable for increasingly useless things but which rots people's lives and makes them more and more irritable ...
PW
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It's very difficult to briefly outline the vision of this whole situation, but I will try.
Overall, I would call this situation a Show: a mix of PR, financial quotes, and the irresponsible playing with people's destinies.
Specifically regarding the countries...
Israel: Blatantly brazen and groundless aggression against a sovereign country on far-fetched pretexts. In the leadership of Israel there is the same ambitious Jew as in Ukraine. One under the pretext that everyone is obliged to help "poor and small Ukraine", the other that everyone is indebted to Israel for the Holocaust, and the latter can do whatever he wants in the world. As a result, each of them is simply fighting to maintain their power, because both will face big problems if all external distractions run out. For the blatantly planned attack by the same Mossad, in a shadowy way, by stupid Hamas fanatics, Netanyahu staged a bloody meat grinder in the Gaza Strip, killed tens of thousands of ordinary people in just a few months, in the end achieving nothing but a humanitarian catastrophe in this region. Next, he decided to attack Iran under a far-fetched pretext. The main goal was not to destroy Iran's nuclear program, because this is all nonsense, but a real change of power in Iran, and to distract the Israelis from internal problems. Thus, Netanyahu set up the fool Trump, who did not want to get involved in the war in the Middle East, but was forced to maneuver between the powerful Zionist lobby within the US and his family Jewish lobby on one side, and his 'MAGA nuclear electorate' on the other side. Netanyahu correctly calculated that Trump would be forced to stand up for Israel. However, Israel, for its part, greatly overestimated its own power and the strength of its air defense, and on the other hand genuinely hoped for the full involvement of the US in the war against Iran.
Interim results: Israel has not achieved its goals. This war has revealed a significant vulnerability in the heavily publicized 'Iron Dome' air defense system of Israel. Such a small territory could not fully protect itself from defeats inflicted by not the most intense attacks and not the most technologically advanced Iranian missile and drone capabilities. Without the support of the USA and certain NATO members, Israel is incapable of fighting against Iran. The ceasefire reached so far is clearly not in Netanyahu's interest, and I think Israel will do everything possible to sabotage these ceasefires, trying to hold the Iranian side responsible for any violations. The difficulty of all of Israel's strategy is that the USA is wavering and does not want prolonged and unpredictable wars in the Middle East. A victorious war seems extremely doubtful. We will continue to observe.
Iran: Also did not demonstrate anything outstanding. The air defense system is frankly weak. Not long ago, Russia offered Iran help to improve its air defense systems. As Putin said: "Iran reacted to Russia's offer without enthusiasm." Russia and Iran signed a cooperation agreement. So if Russia ratified this agreement immediately, the Iranian side did it in an expedited manner, only recently, after Israel attacked Iran. What were they waiting for? This is the eternal attempt to sit "on two chairs." What if they manage to negotiate with the West? The recently elected more moderate representatives in Iran, such as M. Pezeshkian, A. Araghchi, and others, made the same mistake that many other countries before them made, namely - they believed the USA, Israel, and the West as a whole, that they could somehow negotiate with them in the interests of each side. Believing in the USA and the West is extremely naive behavior. The agreements signed with the USA and the West are not worth the paper they are written and signed on! Any next president of the USA can disavow and destroy all agreements reached earlier, as happened with the first nuclear deal with Iran. The USA and its Western vassals, in general, disregard all norms of international law; they have their own 'rules' that satisfy only their ambitions and interests. The measures of decency they have exist only for their 'own,' and even that is not always the case now, while for second or third class states or people, there are no rules or decency that apply. To deceive them, to lie about one's intentions, is an honor for the West, not a shameful act. Such is the mentality of the Western political system of relations, and this is something that must always be recognized by third countries or individuals dealing with them! Iran fell for this trap, thinking it could strike a deal with the USA while considering its interests in the development of peaceful nuclear energy. In the end, the main negotiators of Iran for this deal, as well as many nuclear scientists, were openly eliminated in their own homes, along with their families. It is unclear where Iran's air defense, internal security, and intelligence were at that time. Traitors are operating freely on Iranian territory.
Interim result. Iran's nuclear program is not destroyed (perhaps damaged), because on June 18, Iran evacuated all enriched uranium and centrifuges from its main nuclear facilities. The attack on the American military base in Qatar, clearly coordinated with Qatar and the U.S., was to "save face" for a future ceasefire. I think a ceasefire benefits Iran to improve its affairs, primarily domestically, as there is also clearly felt political and social instability within the country. We will continue to observe.
USA: The main terrorist and destabilizing state in the world, along with its vassals (jackals) in the form of England. An absolutely brazen and impudent state, for which their domestic policy is the main arena for shows, staged performances, and PR, games of ratings, while the rest of the world is a secondary laboratory for various experiments and the fulfillment of the selfish interests of various financial and globalist clans, each of which has its own share of power in the USA.
Trump, a self-absorbed Narcissus who fancied himself as the 'chosen one of God,' especially after he almost lost his ears. He has fallen into a certain 'rapture,' like Tolkien's character Gollum. And essentially, he is a stupid 'trader' behaving like a livestock merchant from an eastern market. A damn public relations guy and showman, all of his 'victories' have been invented by him and declared in his social media, like trash for a dull audience. All his actions are embodiments of the struggle between his arrogance, various factions and lobbyists influencing him, and making money from fluctuating prices caused by openly disruptive activities and loud statements. Many simply profit from this. Trump, of course, has to maneuver between all these forces because he understands that his 'nuclear MAGA electorate', which effectively brought him to power, does not share many of his actions.
Trump himself was openly set up by Netanyahu when Israel killed all the negotiators and specialists from Iran before the nuclear deal was concluded. I think Trump himself didn't want such a turn of events. And after that, the foolish Trump loudly declared that he knew all about Israel's intentions, thereby sharing the responsibility with Israel for this brazen and stupid crime. And all this because of his foolish self-importance and narcissism. In reality, Trump knew nothing about Israel's intentions, and the powerful Zionist lobbying group in the US simply forced him to take further steps in Israel's interests. And if it weren't for the MAGA electorate, who were outraged by this, the US would already be in a full-scale war with Iran. But it's not the end of the story; we will see what happens next.
Iran proposed an absolutely controlled deal regarding its nuclear program. A renunciation of nuclear weapons in favor of peaceful atomic energy development. They agreed to any proposals for monitoring these processes, both from the IAEA and other international observers. No, it was necessary to turn everything into a bloody farce and create another destabilization in the Middle East!
These US strikes on Iran's nuclear facilities are an absolute spectacle, violating any norms of international law, and a show by Trump and his 'advisors', done entirely for PR purposes. Trump, the crazy showman, decided to show off what a 'cool American cowboy' he is. As early as June 18, Iran had removed all enriched uranium and other important equipment from the bombed sites. And intelligence agencies from many countries, including the US and Israel in particular, knew about this. So, Trump didn't destroy anything; instead, he promoted himself and the military as if they had won a global war, while also profiting from the fluctuations in stocks. This is why modern public policy is a mix of show, performance art, absurd theater, and self-promotion. And we, the spectators of this vomit, are ourselves! However, all these games are extremely irresponsible towards the safety of humanity, and in the end, they will lead to huge problems.
Interim conclusion: Narcissist Trump will now try in every way to present himself as a "peacemaker" after overtly bloodying his hands. Now Iran will double its thinking that the only thing that can save it from such brazen and impudent aggressions is nuclear weapons. This is what the USA and Israel have achieved with their stupidity and insatiable ambitions. Trump will continue to engage in self-promotion, playing to the public, making money out of thin air. But all this money is just digital speculation, not a real product. No matter what he touches or promises, he messes everything up and can't bring anything to completion. Yet he loudly creates his own "victories" and proclaims them on his social media. Playing to the public is for fools, which he himself is. And in America, he has huge problems! We will continue to observe...
Overall, I would call this situation a Show: a mix of PR, financial quotes, and the irresponsible playing with people's destinies.
Specifically regarding the countries...
Israel: Blatantly brazen and groundless aggression against a sovereign country on far-fetched pretexts. In the leadership of Israel there is the same ambitious Jew as in Ukraine. One under the pretext that everyone is obliged to help "poor and small Ukraine", the other that everyone is indebted to Israel for the Holocaust, and the latter can do whatever he wants in the world. As a result, each of them is simply fighting to maintain their power, because both will face big problems if all external distractions run out. For the blatantly planned attack by the same Mossad, in a shadowy way, by stupid Hamas fanatics, Netanyahu staged a bloody meat grinder in the Gaza Strip, killed tens of thousands of ordinary people in just a few months, in the end achieving nothing but a humanitarian catastrophe in this region. Next, he decided to attack Iran under a far-fetched pretext. The main goal was not to destroy Iran's nuclear program, because this is all nonsense, but a real change of power in Iran, and to distract the Israelis from internal problems. Thus, Netanyahu set up the fool Trump, who did not want to get involved in the war in the Middle East, but was forced to maneuver between the powerful Zionist lobby within the US and his family Jewish lobby on one side, and his 'MAGA nuclear electorate' on the other side. Netanyahu correctly calculated that Trump would be forced to stand up for Israel. However, Israel, for its part, greatly overestimated its own power and the strength of its air defense, and on the other hand genuinely hoped for the full involvement of the US in the war against Iran.
Interim results: Israel has not achieved its goals. This war has revealed a significant vulnerability in the heavily publicized 'Iron Dome' air defense system of Israel. Such a small territory could not fully protect itself from defeats inflicted by not the most intense attacks and not the most technologically advanced Iranian missile and drone capabilities. Without the support of the USA and certain NATO members, Israel is incapable of fighting against Iran. The ceasefire reached so far is clearly not in Netanyahu's interest, and I think Israel will do everything possible to sabotage these ceasefires, trying to hold the Iranian side responsible for any violations. The difficulty of all of Israel's strategy is that the USA is wavering and does not want prolonged and unpredictable wars in the Middle East. A victorious war seems extremely doubtful. We will continue to observe.
Iran: Also did not demonstrate anything outstanding. The air defense system is frankly weak. Not long ago, Russia offered Iran help to improve its air defense systems. As Putin said: "Iran reacted to Russia's offer without enthusiasm." Russia and Iran signed a cooperation agreement. So if Russia ratified this agreement immediately, the Iranian side did it in an expedited manner, only recently, after Israel attacked Iran. What were they waiting for? This is the eternal attempt to sit "on two chairs." What if they manage to negotiate with the West? The recently elected more moderate representatives in Iran, such as M. Pezeshkian, A. Araghchi, and others, made the same mistake that many other countries before them made, namely - they believed the USA, Israel, and the West as a whole, that they could somehow negotiate with them in the interests of each side. Believing in the USA and the West is extremely naive behavior. The agreements signed with the USA and the West are not worth the paper they are written and signed on! Any next president of the USA can disavow and destroy all agreements reached earlier, as happened with the first nuclear deal with Iran. The USA and its Western vassals, in general, disregard all norms of international law; they have their own 'rules' that satisfy only their ambitions and interests. The measures of decency they have exist only for their 'own,' and even that is not always the case now, while for second or third class states or people, there are no rules or decency that apply. To deceive them, to lie about one's intentions, is an honor for the West, not a shameful act. Such is the mentality of the Western political system of relations, and this is something that must always be recognized by third countries or individuals dealing with them! Iran fell for this trap, thinking it could strike a deal with the USA while considering its interests in the development of peaceful nuclear energy. In the end, the main negotiators of Iran for this deal, as well as many nuclear scientists, were openly eliminated in their own homes, along with their families. It is unclear where Iran's air defense, internal security, and intelligence were at that time. Traitors are operating freely on Iranian territory.
Interim result. Iran's nuclear program is not destroyed (perhaps damaged), because on June 18, Iran evacuated all enriched uranium and centrifuges from its main nuclear facilities. The attack on the American military base in Qatar, clearly coordinated with Qatar and the U.S., was to "save face" for a future ceasefire. I think a ceasefire benefits Iran to improve its affairs, primarily domestically, as there is also clearly felt political and social instability within the country. We will continue to observe.
USA: The main terrorist and destabilizing state in the world, along with its vassals (jackals) in the form of England. An absolutely brazen and impudent state, for which their domestic policy is the main arena for shows, staged performances, and PR, games of ratings, while the rest of the world is a secondary laboratory for various experiments and the fulfillment of the selfish interests of various financial and globalist clans, each of which has its own share of power in the USA.
Trump, a self-absorbed Narcissus who fancied himself as the 'chosen one of God,' especially after he almost lost his ears. He has fallen into a certain 'rapture,' like Tolkien's character Gollum. And essentially, he is a stupid 'trader' behaving like a livestock merchant from an eastern market. A damn public relations guy and showman, all of his 'victories' have been invented by him and declared in his social media, like trash for a dull audience. All his actions are embodiments of the struggle between his arrogance, various factions and lobbyists influencing him, and making money from fluctuating prices caused by openly disruptive activities and loud statements. Many simply profit from this. Trump, of course, has to maneuver between all these forces because he understands that his 'nuclear MAGA electorate', which effectively brought him to power, does not share many of his actions.
Trump himself was openly set up by Netanyahu when Israel killed all the negotiators and specialists from Iran before the nuclear deal was concluded. I think Trump himself didn't want such a turn of events. And after that, the foolish Trump loudly declared that he knew all about Israel's intentions, thereby sharing the responsibility with Israel for this brazen and stupid crime. And all this because of his foolish self-importance and narcissism. In reality, Trump knew nothing about Israel's intentions, and the powerful Zionist lobbying group in the US simply forced him to take further steps in Israel's interests. And if it weren't for the MAGA electorate, who were outraged by this, the US would already be in a full-scale war with Iran. But it's not the end of the story; we will see what happens next.
Iran proposed an absolutely controlled deal regarding its nuclear program. A renunciation of nuclear weapons in favor of peaceful atomic energy development. They agreed to any proposals for monitoring these processes, both from the IAEA and other international observers. No, it was necessary to turn everything into a bloody farce and create another destabilization in the Middle East!
These US strikes on Iran's nuclear facilities are an absolute spectacle, violating any norms of international law, and a show by Trump and his 'advisors', done entirely for PR purposes. Trump, the crazy showman, decided to show off what a 'cool American cowboy' he is. As early as June 18, Iran had removed all enriched uranium and other important equipment from the bombed sites. And intelligence agencies from many countries, including the US and Israel in particular, knew about this. So, Trump didn't destroy anything; instead, he promoted himself and the military as if they had won a global war, while also profiting from the fluctuations in stocks. This is why modern public policy is a mix of show, performance art, absurd theater, and self-promotion. And we, the spectators of this vomit, are ourselves! However, all these games are extremely irresponsible towards the safety of humanity, and in the end, they will lead to huge problems.
Interim conclusion: Narcissist Trump will now try in every way to present himself as a "peacemaker" after overtly bloodying his hands. Now Iran will double its thinking that the only thing that can save it from such brazen and impudent aggressions is nuclear weapons. This is what the USA and Israel have achieved with their stupidity and insatiable ambitions. Trump will continue to engage in self-promotion, playing to the public, making money out of thin air. But all this money is just digital speculation, not a real product. No matter what he touches or promises, he messes everything up and can't bring anything to completion. Yet he loudly creates his own "victories" and proclaims them on his social media. Playing to the public is for fools, which he himself is. And in America, he has huge problems! We will continue to observe...
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Thank you for your take on the matter MVitaly5, you usually have good insight and a somewhat level-headed conclusion
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Excellent take. There is better analysis here than in all of the media.
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Well, what do you know