RUSSIA - UKRAINE 2022 CONFLICT

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MVitaly5 wrote:
Tue Mar 11, 2025 3:57 pm
Russia, as a sovereign, global superpower, treats with some condescension the small powers that are “floundering” and trying to survive in this murky stream of geopolitics and the world economy and world security.
I am not saying this in order to humiliate Serbia, but simply to state the reality. Hungary and Slovakia, for example, are in the same situation, whose rulers are trying to maneuver between the EU policy and loyal attitude towards Russia. The sovereignty and dependence on various external factors of such small countries depends very much on the “size and hardness of balls” of their leaders and their principled defense of the interests of their small countries and their people. And Putin's “communism” has absolutely nothing to do with it. This is nonsense. If you have people who have such thoughts in their heads, it speaks in a bad way about their intelligence.
Vujčić is trying to maneuver in global politics, economy, internal problems and disagreements of Serbs. On the one hand, he wants to show loyalty to Russia, on the other hand, he is doing something to maneuver between the anti-Russian policy of the European Union and the policy of loyalty to Russia, and clearly not in the interests of Russia.
Only one nuance. If the political leadership of Russia can treat such “throwing” with indulgence, and even ignore it, being loyal to Serbia, then ordinary Russians are more emotional, and sometimes perceive it as betrayal, weakness and unprincipledness!
Eh, I am not sure what you tried to say here, but if anything that is the reason why I believe that smaller countries should remain strictly neutral and looking after themselves. Also, it is these decisions from leaders that cause mistrust among nations. But Russian regime definitely supported Vucic regime.
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Tue Mar 11, 2025 3:57 pm
Frankly, I don't understand what you've written here at all! And what this is all about...
From the beginning of Russia's special military operation in Ukraine, there were people in Russia who did not share Russia's policy. First, they were an overwhelming minority in relation to the entire population of Russia. Secondly, many of them have already changed their point of view, having learned all the details of the West's policy in Ukraine against Russia, and returned to Russia. Thirdly, those who “fled” from Russia, they could have done so to any other country (besides Serbia) that supports anti-Russian policies. Fourth, I have already said that many Russians go to Serbia to ease logistics in business, sports and other activities. They tend not to discuss political topics at all, and put themselves outside of politics, in their own interests. And they may artificially hide their true political thoughts.
Therefore, the person with whom you spoke directly, it still does not reflect the entire objective picture. It requires a more complete analytical approach through research.
As for porn actresses of Russian origin, they go to Serbia precisely because of the logistical convenience for the field of activity they are engaged in, filming in Europe. They do not have to pretend to be Serbs, in Russia, it is illegal to produce and distribute pornographic products, but no one prosecutes porn actresses living in Russia. Don't talk nonsense! This shows the primitive judgment of the “Westerner”, who has been led to believe that Putin himself is chasing and arresting everyone. He has nothing else to do, of course. The majority of Russian porn performers, past and present, live perfectly well in Russia, shoot private porn content, and no one arrests them. In general, this is nonsense....
All those Russians you mentioned could do their job from inside Russia, very well. And they are only her temporarily. They either will go to the West, or return to Russia eventually (probably after someone else comes after Putin). If they do not discuss political topics at all, then why all those moved out of Russia just after March 2022? And the way they do not want to be integrated into the society tells me they don't have long term plans to stay at all. They just picked Serbia first because it'd be easier for them to go to a western country than coming straight from Russia.
Russian actresses - I already seen a few that put label "Serbian" to them, but they are either Russian or (maybe even Ukrainian). And they are porn content creators, shooting private porn content. Nothing against that, but I just prefer truth when it comes to nationalities. If no one prosecutes them, then why they moved to somewhere else? There is not such a thing like logistical convenience, unlike in Hungary. Don't talk stupid.
Following the Russian invasion of Ukraine in 2022, an estimated 30,000 to 50,000 Russians have moved to Serbia,[2] many of them whose companies were hit with international sanctions. Initial waves consisted of mostly young Russians (with their families) that worked in IT, and have since reopened or registered their firms and companies in Serbia. Later larger waves occurred in the later half of the year after the announcement of the military drafts in Russia. The majority of Russians from this new emigration waves initially moved to Belgrade, but overtime, majority of them moved to Vojvodina to cities like Novi Sad and Subotica (mainly Vojvodina province).[2] The majority of Russians who initially settled in Central Serbia or Belgrade eventually moved to Vojvodina over time. They cited several reasons for this shift, including Vojvodina’s cleaner environment, less garbage in cities and nature, better infrastructure, better salaries and overall higher quality of life. In interviews, they often expressed a preference for the region’s calmness, better and more of a european mentality and cultural atmosphere, which they found more appealing compared to the chaotic and less organized nature of Central Serbia.[10][11] In fact, over the past two years, Vojvodina has seen the highest number of property sales, surpassing both Belgrade and Central Serbia.[12][13] Another major factor influencing their choice was the architecture—many preferred Vojvodina’s Central European style, which they found more aesthetically pleasing.

As stated by the Ministry of Internal Affairs of Serbia, between February 24 and November 2, 2022, around 140,141 Russian citizens have registered residence in Serbia. These numbers include all temporary passing residents and registered emigrants, including statistics from required registration after 30 days of visa-free residence. Because of this, the actual number of residents with Russian citizenship is smaller than the statistical numbers given by the Ministry of Internal Affairs.[3]

As of January 2024, more than 300,000 Russians had emigrated to Serbia since the start of the war in Ukraine. About one in 10 had been issued a residence permit, though integration issues have been reported, with Russian immigrants living in a ″parallel society″.[14]

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milster wrote:
Thu Mar 13, 2025 3:45 pm
Eh, I am not sure what you tried to say here, but if anything that is the reason why I believe that smaller countries should remain strictly neutral and looking after themselves. Also, it is these decisions from leaders that cause mistrust among nations. But Russian regime definitely supported Vucic regime.
Just yesterday, the Serbian leadership announced that it had voted for the anti-Russian resolution in the UN by mistake, and officially withdrew its vote in favor of the “abstention” category.
You see, I personally don't care who you personally support in Serbia, these are your internal problems, not mine.
You will soon be like in Romania, where they simply withdrew from the elections a candidate for the presidency of Romania, who was undesirable to the Brussels criminal dictatorship, on absolutely far-fetched pretexts. And you personally will not be able to do anything about it!!!
That's why Russians are not your main “enemies”!!!

milster wrote:
Thu Mar 13, 2025 3:45 pm
All those Russians you mentioned could do their job from inside Russia, very well. And they are only her temporarily. They either will go to the West, or return to Russia eventually (probably after someone else comes after Putin). If they do not discuss political topics at all, then why all those moved out of Russia just after March 2022? And the way they do not want to be integrated into the society tells me they don't have long term plans to stay at all. They just picked Serbia first because it'd be easier for them to go to a western country than coming straight from Russia.
Russian actresses - I already seen a few that put label "Serbian" to them, but they are either Russian or (maybe even Ukrainian). And they are porn content creators, shooting private porn content. Nothing against that, but I just prefer truth when it comes to nationalities. If no one prosecutes them, then why they moved to somewhere else? There is not such a thing like logistical convenience, unlike in Hungary. Don't talk stupid.
Following the Russian invasion of Ukraine in 2022, an estimated 30,000 to 50,000 Russians have moved to Serbia,[2] many of them whose companies were hit with international sanctions. Initial waves consisted of mostly young Russians (with their families) that worked in IT, and have since reopened or registered their firms and companies in Serbia. Later larger waves occurred in the later half of the year after the announcement of the military drafts in Russia. The majority of Russians from this new emigration waves initially moved to Belgrade, but overtime, majority of them moved to Vojvodina to cities like Novi Sad and Subotica (mainly Vojvodina province).[2] The majority of Russians who initially settled in Central Serbia or Belgrade eventually moved to Vojvodina over time. They cited several reasons for this shift, including Vojvodina’s cleaner environment, less garbage in cities and nature, better infrastructure, better salaries and overall higher quality of life. In interviews, they often expressed a preference for the region’s calmness, better and more of a european mentality and cultural atmosphere, which they found more appealing compared to the chaotic and less organized nature of Central Serbia.[10][11] In fact, over the past two years, Vojvodina has seen the highest number of property sales, surpassing both Belgrade and Central Serbia.[12][13] Another major factor influencing their choice was the architecture—many preferred Vojvodina’s Central European style, which they found more aesthetically pleasing.

As stated by the Ministry of Internal Affairs of Serbia, between February 24 and November 2, 2022, around 140,141 Russian citizens have registered residence in Serbia. These numbers include all temporary passing residents and registered emigrants, including statistics from required registration after 30 days of visa-free residence. Because of this, the actual number of residents with Russian citizenship is smaller than the statistical numbers given by the Ministry of Internal Affairs.[3]

As of January 2024, more than 300,000 Russians had emigrated to Serbia since the start of the war in Ukraine. About one in 10 had been issued a residence permit, though integration issues have been reported, with Russian immigrants living in a ″parallel society″.[14]
Why are you giving me your statistics, what's the point of them? What do you want to prove to me, I don't understand? That the Russians kicked you out of your house???
I've already told you the reasons why Russians are in Serbia!!!
1). Logistical convenience. In what it consists, I have answered you in detail in the previous posts, clearly point by point.
2). Yes, there are people with Russian citizenship who left Russia after the beginning of the special military operation.
- They are less than 0.1% of the Russian population.
- They left not only to Serbia, but also those who have money left to other countries.
- Many, those who realized their mistake, returned to Russia.
- Those who don't want to associate themselves with Russia, Russians don't need them either. Let them stay with you. That's your problem!
Why this whining, I can't understand....

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US President and his Russian counterpart have ended a more than hour-long phone call, emerging with an agreement to avoid bombing critical energy infrastructure in Ukraine for 30 days.

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It's funny how some Western experts have a changing public narrative.

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Now Trump want gives special weapons against plane to Ukrain !!!

I think all these interaction they do is just a huge show but deeply there are many politics games ...

I am fucking tired of all this shit, time people are dying they are only able to do one step front and next day 2 steps back in direction of the peace !!!

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PIERRE WOODMAN wrote:
Wed Mar 19, 2025 9:35 pm
Now Trump want gives special weapons against plane to Ukrain !!!
What are you talking about?
PIERRE WOODMAN wrote:
Wed Mar 19, 2025 9:35 pm
I think all these interaction they do is just a huge show but deeply there are many politics games ...
“West" is always putting on a show. His whole real life has long since become a show!
As for politics, it is really a game - a “hard game”! And the one who is more skillful in this game, who has more “balls of steel”, and most importantly, who has more trump cards on his hands, wins!
PIERRE WOODMAN wrote:
Wed Mar 19, 2025 9:35 pm
I am fucking tired of all this shit, time people are dying they are only able to do one step front and next day 2 steps back in direction of the peace !!!

PW
What most don't want peace in Ukraine is the stinking American swamp of the Democratic lobby and electorate, Britain and the EU, and the Ukrainian political junta....

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Well, I think you all are missing the point. I was in a Trump rally in Florida and he told the crowd one thing that is a real truth "The only country that can stand alone against the whole world and bring to this world what this world need: to clean the planet of at least half of its population, is the United States of America. The ideal population of this planet is 3 billion people. 9 billion are too many."
So, that is thing. Russians already have their Shanghai Alliance, with all those countries, including China, and they also have mutual defense agreements with North Korea, India and Iran.
Africa is getting together around those new leaders in Burkina Faso, Mali, Senegal, Congo and so on. They will unite and have a single military in the next couple of years.
So, the thing is: Europeans need to stop living in our (US) basement. We don't want to pay for European defense anymore. In fact, we now consider Europeans, Canadians and Mexicans OUR ENEMIES (more than we consider the Russians even).
Europeans should get together and take the Canadians with them and create a new COUNTRY, a FEDERATION and have their OWN ARMED FORCES.
Trump said it. World War III is coming and at least half of the population of this planet will die from it. We in the US will be standing when it ends. China, Russia and India will probably be standing too. If Europe and the other lib countries like Canada want to be standing they must become A SINGLE COUNTRY, or we, or the Chinese, or the Russians will wipe them out of the map.
This is not an opinion. It is a statement of fact. There is not a single soul in this world that needs liberal shit anymore. No one eats "freedom", "democracy" or other bullshit. People need food, land, resources, money, and only the ones able to FIGHT, KILL AND DIE for it, will have it when this decade ends. The liberal order is dead.
Might is right, and might MAKES right. Simple like that, sorry for those that are going to cry but your feelings or opinons won't change what is about to happen.

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I think all of them only want eat others and it's just a "game" to control as much as they can of this world !!!

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Oui, je pense pareil.
Un manipulateur comme Macrotte1er par exemple, instrumentalise juste le fantasme de guerre pour écrabouiller encore un peu + la France. Il sait qu'il ne peut rien contre la puissance de feu russe, mais crée constamment un climat de guerre, un climat anxiogène pour laver le cerveau des gens au maximum et les épuiser mentalement.

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Oh, yeah, brave soldiers fighting for their country to protect democracy at all cost :D

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