RUSSIA - UKRAINE 2022 CONFLICT

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Éducation, bande dessinée, pour qui vous vous prenez , vraiment vous vous croyez supérieur .
Pour ce qui est du spatial vous soulevez une évidence sauf que la Chine travaille sur un programme de laser spatiale capable de détruire les missiles zirkon qui pour le moment à l'air de fonctionner dans sa phase experimentale. Autre problème la Russie partage et coopère en grande partie avec l'occident sur les questions spatiale, alors que la Chine est indépendante sur cette question ! Ce que vous dites est une évidence, je soulignais juste les forces et les faiblesse de chaque formation. Mais vous comme d'habitude prenez les gens de haut , pas d'éducation je suis choque par vos propos ignorant concernant les gens avec qui vous échangez, parce que l'éducation vous vous en avez aucune par contre.

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Pierre, I don't understand you, why are you repeating this absolutely far-fetched narrative of Western “false strategists” that Russia supposedly wanted to seize all of Ukraine or Kiev?
You yourself invented Russia's goals in this war, and now you are stating the results of the war on the basis of these goals that you yourself invented. Well, this is not professional, at the very least, and at the very most, just an elementary substitution of meanings.
Well, there are Russia's goals in a special military operation in the public space. They were outlined as early as 2022 and have not changed to this day. Why are you making things up?
The goals were as follows.
1). Protection of the Russian-speaking population in Dombass.
2). Denazification and demioitarization of Ukraine.
3). Non-admission of NATO to the territory of Ukraine.
That's it!!!
No one planned to take over Ukraine!
The fact that Russia now controls a third of the former Ukrainian territory is more a tactical result of military actions than the original plan.
By attacking Kiev at the beginning of the operation, Russia wanted to quickly force the Ukrainian regime to negotiate. And it achieved this in Istanbul. No one was going to take Kiev (a huge city) at the cost of numerous warrior casualties. The goal was only to blockade the city and force negotiations. It's just that Ukraine, under pressure from the West, reneged on its commitments at the Istanbul talks as soon as Russia withdrew its troops from Kiev.
Even Trump has now told you that Russia could easily destroy Kiev, but it won't do it.
Well, why are you making up these low-brow metaphors about “parade suits”?
What kind of nonsense is that? I did not expect such primitivism from you....

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MVitaly5 wrote:
Thu Feb 20, 2025 8:58 am
Pierre, I don't understand you, why are you repeating this absolutely far-fetched narrative of Western “false strategists” that Russia supposedly wanted to seize all of Ukraine or Kiev?
You yourself invented Russia's goals in this war, and now you are stating the results of the war on the basis of these goals that you yourself invented. Well, this is not professional, at the very least, and at the very most, just an elementary substitution of meanings.
Well, there are Russia's goals in a special military operation in the public space. They were outlined as early as 2022 and have not changed to this day. Why are you making things up?
The goals were as follows.
1). Protection of the Russian-speaking population in Dombass.
2). Denazification and demioitarization of Ukraine.
3). Non-admission of NATO to the territory of Ukraine.
That's it!!!
No one planned to take over Ukraine!
The fact that Russia now controls a third of the former Ukrainian territory is more a tactical result of military actions than the original plan.
By attacking Kiev at the beginning of the operation, Russia wanted to quickly force the Ukrainian regime to negotiate. And it achieved this in Istanbul. No one was going to take Kiev (a huge city) at the cost of numerous warrior casualties. The goal was only to blockade the city and force negotiations. It's just that Ukraine, under pressure from the West, reneged on its commitments at the Istanbul talks as soon as Russia withdrew its troops from Kiev.
Even Trump has now told you that Russia could easily destroy Kiev, but it won't do it.
Well, why are you making up these low-brow metaphors about “parade suits”?
What kind of nonsense is that? I did not expect such primitivism from you....
Toujours les même arguments bidons !

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El Major wrote:
Wed Feb 19, 2025 7:38 pm
So after years of talking about USA being the mastermind of all evil wanting to hurt Europe with this war and Putin was not to blame and Europe doing everything USA want . Now that USA elect a giant piece of shit of a human being going more and more full facist and Europe siding with Ukraine against the facist Putin regime and mango mussolini what is the conspiracy now when Europe cleary will step up to contriune supporting Urakine ?. Ok. Atleast Europe has now have to wake up because Trump is taking USA in a dark direction and we have to arm Ukraine and ourselves.

I could not have had any less faith in this giant sack of shit Trump is but Trump2 is actually a lot worse than even I thought.
Now he is being friendly with Putin again and calling the victim Zelensky a dictator and lying through his ass about Zelenskys populairty in Ukraine . 4 % is dumb even for Trumps lying brain. I thouhgt his comments about Gaza was the dumbest I have ever heard someone try to make a deal. Just remove all the palestians out of there and USA take it. His rambling about taking Greenland and Canada are absurd even for him. Threats against good allies that after 9/11 even sent soldiers that died in Afghanistan , and even instead siding with the country that put bounties on the head of ameerican soldiers. How can you bully good allies and lick Puitins ass after that. What a fucking traitor Trump is. Its pretty clear he hates democracy and goes full facsist and unlike last term the grownups are not there to stop him.


Saying Ukraine started this war and calling Zelensky a dictator for not holding an election when the fucuking country is invaded. How fucking dumb can you be. But we have heard this shit from the dumb maga moron circle like Tucker Carslson earlier and he was too stupid to know the differnce holding an election when your country is invaded and USA not being invaded during in 1944. . They cant be this stupid so its also evil as they just are siding with Russia and just makes stuff up to hurt Urakine .

Now it makes more sense though before the negotiations with Russia the maga moron administration said Ukraine cant be in Nato, cant expect to get the territories back etc .And they cant even sit at the table. Thats great. What the hell is Russia giving up. At this rate you will see Trump giving Putin what he wants which is more territory than they have managed to get. Complete shitshow. No way Ukraine or Euroep acceps this.

Sad to see people are in the same russian propaganda bubble as Trump is in . Unbeliveable how the hate of immigrants and gay/trans people and russian propaagnda take us back 100 years and facisim is again a threat . Hopefully some grown ups in the USA and Europe can start showing some balls opposing this monster.

And what is it with the obsession with Soros on the far right? The jew stealing money and being a mastermind of international conspiracies seems to be all over the far right talking points . Most rich people in the world supports the right because of taxes. But Soros is all they talk about.

In USA now yyou have the richest man in the world donating an absurd amount of money to Trump and now has unlimited power to fuck up the federal goverment. Not a word about him though . Maybe not so strange he is more accepcted with his nazi salutes and support for the far right AfD in Germany with plenty of history of nazi friendly people and statemensts.


This is shocking and extremely disappointing


zelensky is finally getting called out for the scammy piece of shit he is. a robber and thief who is living off american's tax money!! This dumbass receives millions of dollars and then says, 'we didnt receive anything so send more'. a dictator and the world knows it now.

USA is reducing financial aid to Ukraine and why wouldnt they? Its time to sit on the table and make a permanent ceasefire.

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MVitaly5 wrote:
Tue Feb 18, 2025 6:30 pm
Spiderdog wrote:
Tue Feb 18, 2025 5:32 pm
:lol: :lol: :lol: je ne suis jaloux de rien tes insultes immondes ne m'atteignent Russe minable bon à rien,nul en économie et menteur,il y a longtemps que je n'espère plus rien de toi petite frappe insignifiante propagandiste,va faire ton révisionnisme ailleurs et laisse parler les adultes petit tu n'es pas de taille face à l'Asie dominante,le monde asiatique arrive bientôt chez toi et tu ne seras qu'un esclave de plus pour la Chine ! Longue vie à Xi et puisse la Chine tous vous humilier bande de vers de terre ! La paix des USA froyssard déclinant et corrompus et des vieux Russe pourris qui se croient important ne vaut rien et vous allez tous bientôt le regretter, le moment que j'attends depuis si longtemps va vite arriver, où crois-tu que le transfert de connaissance se fait gros naïf, il y a longtemps que la Chine reconnaît les talents et recrute ceux qui lui apporteront la suprématie pendant que vous pauvre Russes seraient à la ramasse de l'évolution !
Comment votre trou anal brûle)))))) :lol:
Ouais, ne sois pas hystérique, on te le dit ! Il est clair pour tout le monde que vous avez déjà trouvé un nouveau trou du cul à lécher, maintenant c'est le chinois))). Seuls les Chinois n'apprécieront pas votre léchage de cul)). Vous, comme l'UE, pensiez qu'en léchant le cul de quelqu'un, vous seriez aimés et appréciés. Mais non ! Vous serez méprisés et utilisés ! Pourquoi continuez-vous à vous vanter de la Chine ? Êtes-vous - Chinois ? On parle de soi, on ne met pas sa langue dans le cul du nouveau maître)). Votre Trudeau, Trump parle à votre Trudeau comme à un petit chiot, tout comme il parle aux fonctionnaires de l'UE. L'avez-vous entendu parler à Poutine ou à Xi avec autant de dédain, d'irrespect et de mépris. De plus, les États-Unis ne seront jamais amis avec la Russie ou la Chine. Trump, bien que pipelette, dans sa simplicité, ne trouve pas nécessaire de cacher tout son mépris pour les flagorneurs comme vous, qui n'ont ni patrie, ni honneur, ni dignité personnelle. Tout le monde se moque de votre russophobie parce que vous n'êtes rien de vous-même. Votre « ami », le vice-président américain Vance, vous a pris par la peau du cou comme des petits enfants à Munich et vous a plongés dans votre propre merde, dont je parle ici depuis des années. Comme il était amusant de voir ces visages stupides dans le public lorsque Vance a prononcé son discours.
C'est la deuxième fois que vous écrivez que vous détruiriez la Russie si vous en aviez la possibilité. Toutes vos connaissances sur la guerre proviennent de bandes dessinées. Si je vous mettais dans une tranchée sur la ligne de front, vous seriez tellement effrayé que vos compagnons d'armes s'enfuiraient à cause de la puanteur. Savez-vous combien de personnes comme vous - des « warrior-babblers d'Internet » - j'ai vues au cours de ma carrière militaire ? Des milliers !
Il ne vous vient même pas à l'esprit que l'administration américaine négocie maintenant avec la Russie et fait abstraction de l'article 5 de l'OTAN pour éviter de défendre l'UE pour ses actions imprudentes ? Parce que le monde n'a jamais été aussi proche d'une guerre nucléaire. Vous pensez que « Captain America » va venir vous sauver ? Connaissant votre intelligence, vous pensez vraiment que c'est le cas. Votre russophobie semble ridicule et pathétique, parce que vous êtes vous-même pathétique....


very true!!

JD Vance made the EU slip in their own shit pile. What an amazing speech that was. The faces of the military elites who realised someone is exposing their wrongdoings was too good.

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Ok Pierre

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I think Pres trump just want to end the war regardless which side he takes. Its what he said during campaign. I don't think he cares or believes Putin.

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Trump only cares about himself so he does not give a shit about Ukraine or the people there. And he loves dictators like Putin

But anybody belives that when you are making a deal and starts the negotiations praising one side and bashing the other non stop are going to be fair is an idiot.

So he praies the attacker Putin than currently occupies around 20% of another country in a war with the biggest causalites in Europe since WW2.

The side that is under threat he calls a horrible leader with 4 % support. He lies and lies all the time but the recent lies about Ukraine is the most pathetic ones I have seen

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He cares about himself and the people that voted for him. As for ukraine and russia will see what the results. I am sure this is not his only decision. He probably consult with his advisor. He is only doing what he promised. He has done a lot. No more lgbt, trans, woke, immigration. Americans are tired of the abuse.

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Not sure the people that voted for him will enjoy the the higher prices , tariffs and cuts in medicaid and higher prices for insulin etc but I agree the maga morons that lose it if they see a rainbow flag will clap like seals and cheer him on regardless

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