RUSSIA - UKRAINE 2022 CONFLICT

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PIERRE WOODMAN wrote:
Thu Jan 09, 2025 5:10 pm
From day 1 I have said this war was based on the ingerence of USA and EU in Ukraine breaking the signed agreement of 1997 and 2014 !!!

Anyway now I don't know what to think after I see Trump making proposal to take Greenland and Canada + Panama canal ...
Do you think EU will come to help canada or Greenland in case of ??? :evil: :evil: :evil:

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Thu Jan 09, 2025 11:21 pm
Il a dit ça par pure geo strategie , faut pas le prendre au pied de la lettre ! Ce qui est affligeant ce sont les dirigeants Européens qui s'inclinent devant lui comme des lâches sans couilles , il faudrait du courage à l'Europe ! Musk a eu raison d'insulter le Chancelier Allemand qui est un gros lâche insignifiant et quand je vois la classe politique française venir le défendre et surtout la servilité française vis à vis de l'Allemagne , aucun dirigeant Français n'a compris que depuis Merkel l'Allemagne et les USA enculent la France profond , non non ils continuent a être serviles au lieu de chercher de nouvelles alliances !
Beaucoup d'européens pensent plus aux nombres de bagnoles qu'ils vont vendre ou à leur retraite dorée et leur petit confort alors qu'il y a menace économique et territoriale , ce continent et sa classe politique me dégoûte , quand on voit l'assemblée nationale qui fait chier pour des trucs irréalistes et s'occupe du chien écrasé pour satisfaire des enfants gatés incapables de s'adapter à la guerre internationale sans cesse entrain de pleurer au lieu de se retrousser les manches ça m'écœure !
De toute façon depuis que j'ai vu Laurence Rossignol dépenser l'argent public pour demander à Gregory Dorcel pourquoi il y a "groose bite black" sur son site et pas "grosse Bite Blanche" j'ai bien compris que la sodomie la plus profonde n'est pas donnée dans un film X mais par nos dirigeants !!!

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Matvienko, a fighter of the Ukrainian armed forces, was taken prisoner in Kursk region.
He now has a miserable appearance and claims that he was forcibly driven into the Ukrainian army.
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Back in the summer of 2024, this Nazi asshole mocked while looting the Russian grocery store “Pyaterochka” (Suja, Kursk region), and with a very “brave” look, posted his videos in Tik Tok.
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https://vkvideo.ru/video254792090_45624 ... in=ya62.ru

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I don’t think there is any karma in such war situation !!!
There are probably same type of story with Russians soldiers too …
Each part has his way to think and often in fight mode both side are able to do this stupid thing and cry the day they have been catched !!!

Once again I hope this war will end this year and ASAP.
Here another video who explain clearly why we are where we are now :

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DC3mOU9N ... pxdHQ5MA==


when I see how much money USA ( démocrates ) has spent in order to fight in Ukraine with NATO while now there is no water in Los Angeles to fight against the fire and my thought are :
« Why the fuck this idiot if Biden did not spend money to build a pipeline between states like Michigan who has more water than they need and save the 150 billions the tragedy of this week will cost to their country ????
Or why don’t they do like middle orient people who spend billions for machines changing the salt water of the sea in pure water and can manage the fire-man to do their job properly ???
Humans are so dumb sometimes…

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PIERRE WOODMAN wrote:
Sat Jan 11, 2025 4:03 pm
I don’t think there is any karma in such war situation !!!
There are probably same type of story with Russians soldiers too …
Each part has his way to think and often in fight mode both side are able to do this stupid thing and cry the day they have been catched !!!


PW
It's not about who is there “crying” in captivity!
I have become lazy to post any videos or anything else here, because I think there is little point in it.
But I posted this video because there are hundreds of such videos. And it is the video with the inane joy of crimes and marauding, committed by foreign mercenaries or soldiers of Ukraine on Russian soil. And most of these mercenaries are already either in captivity or rotting away.
And the main thing is that when they are taken prisoner, for some reason they all start to say that they “accidentally” found themselves in this war. It is a strange stupidity to start by making videos of their crimes and posting them on various social networks, and then pretend to be “victims of circumstances” and curse the hated Ukrainian regime, which sent them to die on Russian soil by force. That is the main point here!!!

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All right but honestly how many man are happy to go at the war ???
I was in french army myself and it was my job before become a cop but even if I am far to be a coward do you think I wished a single time in my life to be in front row at any war ??? NO WAY ...
When I was a cop I was happy to wake up and go to work even if I hated my hierarchy because I had the feeling I was making something good. If my country was attacked by another, of course I will go to fight to protect my family but I will not be happy because war is never good and even more difficult to do if you know inside your heart that this will never happen if your president has not made various stupid deal with people he shouldn't and also pushed to kill many people from the country coming to invade you in order make this stop !!!
All this to say that most of these Ukrainian/ Russians soldiers are for sure not there because they wanted to ...

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You see, the main issue here is the question of MOTIVATION, motivation of people and political decisions! And at different times, during this or that conflict in the history of the world, this motivation can be different.

You are now speaking purely for yourself, and this point of view certainly has the right to exist.
The history of mankind is oversaturated with wars!!! I will not even now dwell in detail on the background, causes, course and results of this or that conflict in the history of mankind, but I will dwell on the question of motivation. Naturally, when a person enters a war, he does not want to die (if it is not a fanatic), but often, he still enters it or not depending on his motivation and purpose at the moment.
You said for yourself that you would defend your family if the situation arose. But that's not the only reason people go to war. Hitler conquered all of continental Europe in a month! Why? Because most Europeans lacked the motivation to defend their countries, and their private property and personal life, a particular person or his family, Hitler did not threaten to destroy if they obediently surrendered. And these people chose their own well-being, to the detriment of the well-being of their countries. And then they worked for Hitler's militaristic machine. Because there was a corresponding ideology, which did not motivate people to protect other people's property or other people's interests.
And the Soviet Union had a different motivation and the ideological component of that motivation in people. Of course, there were traitors. The ancestors of these traitors are still the driving and ideological force of motivation of people in Ukraine.
There are different interests in war; conquest, ideological, economic, religious, geopolitical and others....
But the motivation of people and political decisions is always different. A person decides whether he is personally motivated by the interests and goals of a particular war or not. And this motivation depends on the course of the war and its potential results in the future. Even a man serving in the army, though he receives an order to fulfill one or another task in the war, has his own motivation. Or a person may be indifferent or negative about it. But I assure you that sentiments like yours are often not a priority criterion for a person, or they are a disguise for true interests (convenience of doing business, conquering new territories, resources, protecting one's interests or one's people - you can list many). Personally, I have not believed in human sentiments and ostentatious pacifism for a long time, i.e., they may be natural, because we are human beings, but they are far from being a priority in assessing the situation. Although I do not exclude that there may be isolated cases of people like you!
When France bombed Libya, most French people didn't care! When they showed a video of a bloody Kadafi, everyone in the “west” clapped their hands. Why? Because most of them were indifferent to it, because it was not happening to them. Another part was motivated by the fact that they were “fighting” against “dictators” “in the name of democracy” and other nonsense. Few ordinary French people understood the true goals, or they didn't care.
When the U.S. entered the Vietnam War, few people in the U.S. talked about it. But when thousands of corpses of American soldiers began to arrive in the USA, all sorts of pacifist movements and other nonsense began to appear. It was the same with the USSR and US wars in Afghanistan. They accomplished their initial objectives in these invasions, but afterwards got bogged down in endless guerrilla wars. We know the outcome.

I could write a whole dissertation on these issues, but it is unlikely that anyone will read it here.
But I will tell you one thing, that the motivation of ordinary people and armies of Ukraine and Russia, it is different and changed depending on the realization of the prerequisites of the war, its causes, the course of the war itself and potential final results. I can write about this in more detail in a separate article.

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Although I do not exclude that there may be isolated cases of people like you!
Well as tou know I was in army, in police and I have crossed thousand and thousand of people in my life and even if the girls are the biggest numbers I also met and speak with many men. I remember some fanatics but I will say that less than 5% of the men are happy with the idea to go at the war.
You can write me whatever you want with good and very explicite arguments, I will keep my opinion on that because majority of human being are scared of the death + coward but also don't wish kill anybody ...

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I'm not going to change your mind about anything, but I'll stay with my opinion as well.

I personally have been or participated in 4 military conflicts (2 Chechen wars, in Syria, in Ukraine), and I have also seen many things....

In my opinion, in your reasoning and statistics, there is a conceptual error (misconception), which is expressed by the fact that you are substituting the concepts of “war and death”! Yes, these concepts are very close to each other, but still, it is not the same! And wars are different!
1). A lot of people going to or participating in war are afraid to die, but that doesn't stop them from fighting fiercely, sometimes without even surrendering. Again - a matter of motivation!!!
2). Lots of people involved in one conflict or another, they go to war, and they think to destroy their enemy, not to be destroyed. You are also not taking this into account.
There are a lot of French mercenaries in Ukraine. Do you think they were brought there by force? Of course not. They went there absolutely deliberately. They are clearly motivated to kill, rob, rape. They also fear their deaths, but think (sometimes wrongly) that they will kill the “enemy” but not die themselves. Their motivation is supported in different ways; by money, by ideology, by the characteristic human nature to kill, rob, rape with impunity. Two French mercenaries raped a girl in Kharkov (territory controlled by Ukraine), Ukrainian or Russian, it doesn't matter. It doesn't matter to them!
Of course, when these mercenaries began to be methodically exterminated, they realized that in this particular war, not only they would shoot and kill others. But they would be shot and killed themselves, and at a very rapid pace. Many, ran back to their homes in their native countries, many have already died.
It's the same with many other wars that NATO has been involved in. When they can bomb with impunity, kill millions of people, most people living in NATO countries don't care. The French army, on a permanent basis, was on the territory of its former colonies in Africa, and did what it wanted, until it was just beaten, after which in France, began to talk about “the horrors of wars”.
3). A lot of people from your statistics are with the characteristic, modern European mentality, which began to form after the extermination of the First World War. It became not interesting to die for reasons that do not care about the personal (private) interests of every European average person. And this is not even a matter of cowardice, but a matter of personal (private) selfish motive. They will protect their own life and property, but not the life and property of their neighbor, and also, for the same reason, few people care about the interests of the state as a whole. And even more so, no one is interested in fighting somewhere on a foreign side, not clear for what interests. The armies of Europe are now mercenary structures, which are sent to solve some local tasks in the interests of capital. They have no problem going to solve these tasks, when only they will kill others. And they themselves will not be killed. And this applies only to the professional army, and as for the mobilization reserve, the situation with motivation is deplorable and depressing.
It is because of this characteristic mentality that I gave examples of why Hitler so quickly occupied all of continental Europe in my previous post. And when now, some European politicians are browbeating slogans that they will send troops to Ukraine, it makes me laugh. If there is any risk of dying in Ukraine, no European will go there to fight. I'm talking about state, political decisions, not mercenaries. But they are forcing Zelensky to send all men, teenagers and women to war. This says that they do not care about the war, when Ukrainians and Russians kill each other. This is the attitude towards wars and motivations!

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Pour les francophone il est interessant de voir à quel point des gens insitent pour que la guerre perdure

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tandis que cette interview de Poutine démontre bien qu'il y a eu une volonté occidental de contribuer à mettre le feu !!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XgtjjLaV1nE

et sinon une video trés intéressante qui analyse bien la situation actuelle de l'Europe :

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qADX2PHywgg

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PIERRE WOODMAN wrote:
Thu Feb 06, 2025 11:33 am
Pour les francophone il est interessant de voir à quel point des gens insitent pour que la guerre perdure


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tandis que cette interview de Poutine démontre bien qu'il y a eu une volonté occidental de contribuer à mettre le feu !!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XgtjjLaV1nE

et sinon une video trés intéressante qui analyse bien la situation actuelle de l'Europe :

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qADX2PHywgg

PW
Je ne comprends pas cette idée de paix forcée ! Les Ukrainien ne veulent pas la paix et les Russes veulent que l'Ukraine devienne la Russie , je ne vois rien de compatible là dedans !C'est bien beau d'avoir la paix , encore faut-il que ce soit une paix équilibrée qui respect les desirs des uns et des autres , si c'est juste une paix on se tire pas dessus , il y a plus de mort mais on vit en esclave ....

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