RUSSIA - UKRAINE 2022 CONFLICT

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For two years I have seen the same few people here post only russian propaganda. Why would I read your shit after two years. I am not an idiot. I did the first few times you posted links . Links of russian propaganda I dont care to read.

Go back a couple of pages here and you will see russian propaganda of this clown
https://rsf.org/en/diana-panchenko-ukra ... ng-kremlin

First about the klitschko brothers doing human trafficking running several brothlers arould Ukraine or whatever the shit was. I am sure others dont report on thius hiding the truth :lol: :lol: :lol: Message me when this stories are verified :lol: :lol:

Even Pierre posted stuff from here and said something like the western media is full of shit for not rapporting on this and that and used Diana story as proof. Russian propaganda.

But you are not here in good faith or you are just that dumb. Let me give you an example. You posted in earllier to me that western weapons support was no big deal for russia.They woudl just destroy it. Even Putin thinks you a fucking moron. Because Putin and his leaders are are going full lunatic everytime Ukraine gets new weapons. You think thats because they dont care or does noit matter like you posted ? You cant be this stupid .

And go fuck yourself with you thinking you can dictate who posts here. I know you only wants pro russians here but too bad. Someone has to push back after pages of russian propaganda

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PIERRE WOODMAN wrote:
Thu Nov 21, 2024 12:49 pm
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PW
The main point here is different.
This was a missile strike as a response to the use of American and British missiles on Russian territory, launched from the territory of Ukraine. The missile strike was carried out by the latest medium-range hypersonic ballistic missile with a non-nuclear warhead.
The US, withdrew in 2019 from the treaty on non-deployment of medium-range missiles. Russia, has accepted the rules of the game, and has already tested such weapons. The missile has a speed of Mach 10, which is not intercepted by any Western air defense systems, which was clearly demonstrated by this missile strike. No Patriot air defense systems and other Western systems in Ukraine were able to intercept this missile and the goal was achieved. The military facility in Ukraine has been destroyed.
The haters and fools will now scream that this is a rattle of arms. No, it is a partial response to the absolutely brazen and irresponsible actions of the “West”. And it is partial because it should show what awaits potential “patience testers” of Russia when such a missile comes to them, only with a nuclear warhead.
I emphasize, I do not aim to intimidate the adequate inhabitants of Europe, but they must finally realize that their lives are being played in a very dangerous game....

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Et voilà ... ça pue de plus en plus !!!

https://www.bfmtv.com/replay-emissions/ ... 10985.html
Even Pierre posted stuff from here and said something like the western media is full of shit for not rapporting on this and that and used Diana story as proof. Russian propaganda.
No El major it's not about any propaganda ... I can't understand how you can still speak about this when it's obvious Trump want this war to stop and Biden does his best to push on WW3 !!!
Seriously I don't give a shit about Klishko doing or not doing what this Ukrainian journalist said, but I seriously care about those fools pushing on the escalade of the tensions when it's time to stop have thousand of soldats but also civilians diying every day in Ukraine. The american and french are moving few thousand of army in Finland and did some repetition of war situation today. Seriously where do we go ???
BlackSon wrote:
Thu Nov 21, 2024 4:59 pm
El Major wrote:
Thu Nov 21, 2024 4:47 pm

Ukraine is trying to save their county from evil but I know you love the narrative that USA is the bad guy always trying to cause probelms.
Tell me, what's more evil, letting fights in the Middle East continue with the result of mass destruction of Gaza Stripe and Lebanon, or calling for ceasefire with the result of saving lives? I'm pretty sure you'd choose the second choice, but the USA vetoed this again, one no against 14 out of 15 votes, which I'm pretty sure says a lot. Are you sure the USA are the good guys here?
Obviously they do their best to make all continue and don't care the peace !!!
Had Ukraine stayed neutral as Budapest Memorandum suggested, not trying to join NATO or EU, none of this shit would've happened. Rules of good and bad, right or wrong don't apply here, only the rules of cause and consequences. Nobody needs to be loyal specifically to Putin, just neutral, and nobody needed to oppress the Russian minority in Ukraine and Russian-speaking Ukrainians who didn't acknowledge the coup in Ukraine because it WAS overthrown by neo-nazis. If you're gonna say there're no neo-nazis in Ukraine then not only are you stupid and blind, but also lazy, lazy to watch the videos and read the article I added here and the only weapon in your arsenal you have right now is your mouth, not hard-truth facts
I also agree with that Blackson but not with that :
This forum isn't for you. Don't come here, don't fill this section with your comments, nobody needs you! You weren't called here, you're not welcome here. Get out of here and don't ever come back! That clear?
Jean is right El Major has the right to have his opinion and tell it here ... I think the subject is ultra sensible and from a country to another it's clear there are easy clashes but honestly we all want the same thing, the end of this war and the peace so let the agressivity somewhere else all of you ... Thanks

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PIERRE WOODMAN wrote:
Thu Nov 21, 2024 8:19 pm
Et voilà ... ça pue de plus en plus !!!

https://www.bfmtv.com/replay-emissions/ ... 10985.html
Even Pierre posted stuff from here and said something like the western media is full of shit for not rapporting on this and that and used Diana story as proof. Russian propaganda.
No El major it's not about any propaganda ... I can't understand how you can still speak about this when it's obvious Trump want this war to stop and Biden does his best to push on WW3 !!!
Seriously I don't give a shit about Klishko doing or not doing what this Ukrainian journalist said, but I seriously care about those fools pushing on the escalade of the tensions when it's time to stop have thousand of soldats but also civilians diying every day in Ukraine. The american and french are moving few thousand of army in Finland and did some repetition of war situation today. Seriously where do we go ???
BlackSon wrote:
Thu Nov 21, 2024 4:59 pm
El Major wrote:
Thu Nov 21, 2024 4:47 pm

Ukraine is trying to save their county from evil but I know you love the narrative that USA is the bad guy always trying to cause probelms.
Tell me, what's more evil, letting fights in the Middle East continue with the result of mass destruction of Gaza Stripe and Lebanon, or calling for ceasefire with the result of saving lives? I'm pretty sure you'd choose the second choice, but the USA vetoed this again, one no against 14 out of 15 votes, which I'm pretty sure says a lot. Are you sure the USA are the good guys here?
Obviously they do their best to make all continue and don't care the peace !!!
Had Ukraine stayed neutral as Budapest Memorandum suggested, not trying to join NATO or EU, none of this shit would've happened. Rules of good and bad, right or wrong don't apply here, only the rules of cause and consequences. Nobody needs to be loyal specifically to Putin, just neutral, and nobody needed to oppress the Russian minority in Ukraine and Russian-speaking Ukrainians who didn't acknowledge the coup in Ukraine because it WAS overthrown by neo-nazis. If you're gonna say there're no neo-nazis in Ukraine then not only are you stupid and blind, but also lazy, lazy to watch the videos and read the article I added here and the only weapon in your arsenal you have right now is your mouth, not hard-truth facts
I also agree with that Blackson but not with that :
This forum isn't for you. Don't come here, don't fill this section with your comments, nobody needs you! You weren't called here, you're not welcome here. Get out of here and don't ever come back! That clear?
Jean is right El Major has the right to have his opinion and tell it here ... I think the subject is ultra sensible and from a country to another it's clear there are easy clashes but honestly we all want the same thing, the end of this war and the peace so let the agressivity somewhere else all of you ... Thanks

PW
I was talking about Diana . You also posted something she said and said this was proof western media lies etc. I was poiting out that the only thing I have seen her say is russian propaganda . You think she is trustworthy based on what ? Please tell me where I am wrong here.

When it comes to Trump wanting peace and will manage to do this I have no idea what you base this on . What is his peace plan you have seen since you are so confident about this ? I hope you are right though .

Everybody but Russia obviously wants peace . But if Putin and Russia keep sending troops drones and missiles you have to fight back. You have to do a lot of mental gymnastics I think to explain to me why Russia can strike deep into Ukraine also with weapons from Iran but Ukraine cant strike back with weapons from USA or Great Britain France etc. I see Putin cries today about this . The hypocrisy is laughable. The boxing match where one fighter has atleast one hand tied behind his back has to stop. If Russia keeps wanting war they should suffer also. Maybe that will make the, stop. Losing hundres of thousands of troops on the frontline certainly dont.

Biden has been in charge for 4 years and has been holding back support . No planes tanks etc for years. No long range missiles. Ukraine cant strike there or there . But it would be WW3 if he contiued . Makes no sense . Meanwhile Russia attakcs with missiles and drones etc even from Iran but they are not the ones to blame. Biden is ? I dont think its very logical but we cleary just have to disagree.

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PIERRE WOODMAN wrote:
Thu Nov 21, 2024 8:19 pm

Jean is right El Major has the right to have his opinion and tell it here ... I think the subject is ultra sensible and from a country to another it's clear there are easy clashes but honestly we all want the same thing, the end of this war and the peace so let the agressivity somewhere else all of you ... Thanks

PW
I agree, I want peace, too, however you're wrong about El Major's opinion, he's not expressing his opinion, he's arguing for the sake of argument, he's just spilling accusations and chooses sides, and when I present some facts he chooses to ignore them altogether because he doesn't care about facts, he just likes to argue, that's why I told him to get out, not because he doesn't have the right for opinion but because he's not interested in truth or facts and he'll just keep hiding under the "Russian propaganda" excuse like they all do

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And have you seen what Trump has said about the Gazxa conflict and what his cabinet members have said? They are more likely to have stopped this war ?

Only thing I agree with you on is that USA is doing in the middle east . As much as Hamas re awful , USAs weapons support for the massacre on Gaza is shameful.
BlackSon wrote:
Thu Nov 21, 2024 8:59 pm
PIERRE WOODMAN wrote:
Thu Nov 21, 2024 8:19 pm

Jean is right El Major has the right to have his opinion and tell it here ... I think the subject is ultra sensible and from a country to another it's clear there are easy clashes but honestly we all want the same thing, the end of this war and the peace so let the agressivity somewhere else all of you ... Thanks

PW
I agree, I want peace, too, however you're wrong about El Major's opinion, he's not expressing his opinion, he's arguing for the sake of argument, he's just spilling accusations and chooses sides, and when I present some facts he chooses to ignore them altogether because he doesn't care about facts, he just likes to argue, that's why I told him to get out, not because he doesn't have the right for opinion but because he's not interested in truth or facts and he'll just keep hiding under the "Russian propaganda" excuse like they all do

Thats why you and a couple of others her comes like flies if somedody has anything to say thats not licking Putin's ass.

And talk again about the giant hypocrisy here. You dont have to go back more than a couple of pages until you see you are telling spiderdog to just have to accept being insulted or get out :lol: :lol: :lol:

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BlackSon
Yeah, don't pay attention about what says El Major, don't waste your nerves) :D
Let them yap, let them say what they want, let them spread their lies and nonsense! In more than two years, I have not heard anything sensible from these people. You can't prove anything to them anyway, so there's no point in justifying anything to them.
What they say is not important, because the main thing is the RESULT!
And the result, speaks about the close victory of Russia. And it is inevitable, no matter what kind of weapons are not supplied to Ukraine. All the recent events show only hysteria and despair of the collective West. The further this war goes, the more territories Russia will liberate, the more Nazis and Western mercenaries will die, the more people loyal to Russia, Russia will gain. Russian soldiers know what they are fighting for.
And if they want a nuclear war, well, we will die for Russian people, and these idiots will die for Ukraine and for their idiocy!

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It's stupid thinking Russia will not get wiped out if they start that shit

Why are you not at the frontline after 3 years after when you are this brainwashed thinking you are fighting nazis. Not important enough for you after all or are you that much of a coward rather having poor north koreans fighting :lol:

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atleast our weapons work correctly what we suplly to ukraine.

not suprised if same thing is happening in your country also.

https://youtu.be/gc9yOQyskyY?si=zSJVFzZOV07aOtpV

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jake28 wrote:
Thu Nov 21, 2024 11:55 pm
atleast our weapons work correctly what we suplly to ukraine.

not suprised if same thing is happening in your country also.

https://youtu.be/gc9yOQyskyY?si=zSJVFzZOV07aOtpV
1). It is always necessary to personally verify such information, or to judge by concrete results. Because all this can only be propaganda (and often, just false propaganda), in order to humiliate the potential opponent, and to promote themselves.
2). In the sphere of high, space and military technologies, there are always abnormal situations, accidents, etc., but it is important to look at the end result.

Nowhere in the world there is such corruption as in the U.S. military-industrial complex, because in addition to shadow corruption, the U.S. has legalized “legal corruption” - lobbyism, and it is the lobbyists of the military-industrial complex who are the most proactive and active in making political decisions in the U.S. and the distribution of financial resources in the military-industrial complex.
The U.S. military budget is almost a trillion dollars, where most of it is spent not on the development and purchase of military hardware and equipment, but on the maintenance of numerous military bases, kickbacks to military officials and private military companies, corruption, maintenance of subversive activities in different parts of the world, and so on. And this is not my research, but independent American experts. In a capitalist economy, everything is interconnected. Hence, the final cost of weapons produced by the United States (and NATO countries in general) is extremely high.
The United States has already invested a huge amount of money in Ukraine, but where is the result? All these "ATACMS" missiles that the U.S. is giving to Ukraine are extremely expensive, and their effectiveness in this particular war against Russia is very questionable. The overwhelming majority of them are shot down by Russian air defense systems, without causing any harm to Russia, and these missiles are quite few not only in Ukraine, but also in the United States.
It all looked “beautiful” when you (USA and NATO), like a pack of vultures, attacked and destroyed independent states that could not give you a decent response. And in Ukraine, you were beaten hard, hence all this hysteria.
The U.S. is still unable to develop hypersonic weapons. Numerous tests have failed. This does not fit your statement; “that your weapons supposedly work properly”.
Ukraine was supplied with f-16s. There was a lot of enthusiastic noise, PR in Western propaganda. And what happened? What was the result? In Ukraine, this airplane turned out to be just a flying junk and a coffin for pilots. And again, I'm not making this up. It's all in your data. In the U.S., Ukrainian pilots were trained on the F-16: Pilshchikov and Mes. Pilshchikov was shot down in mid-air on his first flight in Ukraine. Mes in his f-16, was shot down by Ukraine's own Patriot air defense system. Both pilots have been dead for a long time. 4 f-16s were destroyed on the airfield before they even took off. All these f-16s are just for PR effect. Ukrainian pilots are even afraid to fly them, because they say that for the Russian military air defense, it is a kind of fun and special excitement to destroy NATO equipment.
Recently on English television, footage of nuclear missile launch pits in the UK was shown. Not only that these missiles are controlled by the USA, but these mines are all rusty and extremely dilapidated, they have not been maintained and repaired for a long time. And this is filmed by British propagandists themselves, not my fabrications or “Russian propaganda”.

It is the lack of real results that makes the collective West so furious and hysterical, and pushes them to make absolutely reckless and irresponsible decisions, it's obvious!!!

Everyone here loves to talk about “Russian propaganda”, but the way the Western propaganda zombifies its people has no analogy....

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