I must agree with Booz on this thread. Confusing the 2 things is a big mistake. It is a big mistake because, being in this business you can get in big trouble. If you are a model agent your partners are expecting from you to show up with models for a biz lunch usually. ...

Escorting doesn't mean, the lady is going with you at a business dinner, or party entertainment whatever else must also fuck with you. She's exactly there only to impress as the limo you arrive with, the smoking suite you wear, the watch you hold on your arm, etc.
A professional escort girl must have her limits, and to know where is the end of her mission.
Sad but theese days this is the " Mission impossible" with hungarian girls. If they smell the money, you can't stop them to not going more fahr.
I had problems because of this in my past, even I made an agreement with the model regarding this issue.
Regarding what is more safe and healthy, to be an adult model, or a prostitute ?
I can tell only few things.
The adult model is fucked without condom, but by mens having full laboratory test results on the set.
Even if the scene look rude, or too much hard, they're usually more professionals than the amatour people going sometime to fuck a whore and to do with it what they can't do with they're partner at home...
Secondly a professional can use his dick, can take care about the model. The amateur even with small sized dick can make big damages on a pussy or asshole, when playing the macho
Even if they take a condom, they can easily take it off when they fuck the girl in doggy
I heard this from some models of mine was happening with them. Usually mens don'tlike to use condom, and why do they care about a prostitute doesn't know anything about them???
I heard about some desperate HIV infected stories, maybe only tales, when the guy was infecting few whores this way because he had only more few months of life, and he was mad, and angry on all the whores in this world.
In our biz. all the HIV problems I remember in the past few years, were coming into the biz through models working as prostitute too.....

Lorsque des actrices de X participent à des "tours" dans les villes européennes
il faut une certaine dose d'inconscience !!!!!
tout peut arriver , entre viols et vol ....
mais je crois que dans ce cas elles ont perdu leur statut de "pornstar"
pour choisir la prostitution pure et dure et les "réseaux" ...

Dans le monde du X , tout n'est pas parfait non plus,,,
Je me souviens d'une actrice de X, Zara White, il me semble
qui dans une émission de Cauet en France,
déclarait avoir passer une semaine en Italie près de Bologne
à encaisser 2 à 3 scènes par jour
et ,,, attendait toujours d'être payé .......
pas vraiment du vol , pas vraiment du viol, mais guère mieux,


Mais ces derniers temps les jeunes filles de Prague sont devenus très pro ...
Peut être fini l'époque de Jeff et les marges des agences à 30 ou 50% .....

Aujourd'hui plusieurs utilisent les agences uniquement comme "net advertising"
et ne leur laissent que des miettes ,
50 à 100 euros max pour un meeting de 3h à 500 euros
ce qui n'est déjà pas si mal , mais rien sur les "options"
naturellement le client prend à sa charge hôtel & frais ...

et avec une jeune fille aussi adorable que DG,,,,,
les options pleuvent...tout en ayant des rapports protégés

500 au départ pour 3h
et
2000 à l'arrivée pour une nuit , avec options!!!

mais sans regrets

bienvenue au Buddha bar !!!!!!!!!!!!


Il est impératif pour le X de trouver une solution pour concilier tout ça ....

Ricardo ,,,,

les gens dont tu parles ,
rapport sans préservatif , à jouer les machos ....

ce sont des racailles

et quand s'ils sortent de leur Zone

ils préféreront 10 filles de l'Est dans un club à Barcelone

qu'une Pornstar à Prague ,

pour le même prix !!!!!!!!!!!

adibou wrote:Ricardo ,,,,

les gens dont tu parles ,
rapport sans préservatif , à jouer les machos ....

ce sont des racailles

et quand s'ils sortent de leur Zone

ils préféreront 10 filles de l'Est dans un club à Barcelone

qu'une Pornstar à Prague ,

pour le même prix !!!!!!!!!!!

I don't agree with you. The guy who wants to do something bad to a whore will never go to a brothel because this place are hight secured. The client who will illtreat a girl in such place would spend a very bad time.

Booz wrote:

adibou wrote:Ricardo ,,,,

les gens dont tu parles ,
rapport sans préservatif , à jouer les machos ....

ce sont des racailles

et quand s'ils sortent de leur Zone

ils préféreront 10 filles de l'Est dans un club à Barcelone

qu'une Pornstar à Prague ,

pour le même prix !!!!!!!!!!!

I don't agree with you. The guy who wants to do something bad to a whore will never go to a brothel because this place are hight secured. The client who will illtreat a girl in such place would spend a very bad time.

Money talks to this girls...
he can't fuck an adult model isn't doing prostitution, only one is doing it. And here is my point

They all (almost all) do escorting (and under escort I mean prostitution). Usually they split up the "working" days: porn, escort at different locations, etc.
Through prostitution there's a whole lot of money to be earned (because one can do it non-stop whereas porn jobs only come from time to time).
It all depends how someone can hide her escort activity from others, or on the contrary: how she advertises herself to make herself well known and sought after.

Whatever some people said here, I know because I'm an ex-cops the difference between prostitution and pornography !!!!
Excepted the fact prostitution is more discret, there are only negatives sides, just two hours ago one girl that some people here said she's in Paris doing escorting at the moment and who's my friend, was crying on the phone and tell me it's an horrible job and she wish to go back home but ...she can't ! Why ? Nobody knows, but she can't, and she has to stay longer against her will ! Don't tell me all this is good and she keep only a bit more than 500 € by day ...

PW

They all (almost all) do escorting (and under escort I mean prostitution).

Honestly, this idea that all pornstars do escort is in my opinion, vastly exagerated. Of course the statistics are hard to find, but just take a look at the girls on the first page of Woodman Castings or EBI and try to find the ones who do escort.

I would say that, at best 15% do escort and that's really generous. If I count honestly, it's less than 10%.

And for most of them, it's only really escort in the classical sense, which means being advertised through an agency for about 500€/2h local and more than 1500€/day abroad. How many meetings do they get per month through this ? 2 at best ?

A small part of the porngirls do tours through a bunch of website in Paris/London/Dubai/Athens, but it's always the same 15-20 girls.

And about 40 of them occasionaly spend a week in a studio in Germany/Swiss/Austria. And occasionaly means one to 5 times a year. And here also the market is pretty small, since I count about 5 to 8 studios with regular pornstars compared to the hundreds of escort studios in those countries.

An interesting point is that if you go to a forum dedicated to prostitution, you'll notice that only a fraction of punters are interested in pornstars. Most of them say that those girls are too artificial or the price is too high.

So as much as I stand by to the idea that porn can lead to prostitution because it's a natural escaladation process, I would add that the numbers say that most porn girls don't go into prostitution.

Thank you Viktor666
This is exactly my opinion too. We must make a difference between pornstars and pornbabes or pornwhores whatever.

viktor666 wrote: I would say that, at best 15% do escort and that's really generous. If I count honestly, it's less than 10%.

That's true, even if I tend to say 15-20%, most don't do escort also due to a simple reason: when I spoke to this Czech agency they told me how hard it is to find new girls for this job because they have mostly international clients and therefore the girls have to speak Englisch on a good level. Especially for 1'500 Euros the client expect more than just sex and within 24 hours you have a lot of time for talking. So even if more girls would like to do it, most cannot due to this reason. Just watch Pierre's casting videos, most girls don't speak English.

viktor666 wrote: And for most of them, it's only really escort in the classical sense, which means being advertised through an agency for about 500€/2h local and more than 1500€/day abroad. How many meetings do they get per month through this ? 2 at best ?

Those from this agency are mostly only available for meetings as of 6hrs, some even as of 12hrs. I agree within this price range they don't have lots of clients, maybe 2-4 per month, not more.

caratustra wrote:I agree with you viktor666 !
I mean that the price of an adult model in escort is for the most people to high !
and second I think the girls from X who do escort are not so much famous , they do a few scenes in porn and then they mean they are pornstars
To become a star status must work much more !

I agree that for most people it is too much to pay 1'500 Euro for a meeting with a girl. But the three ones that most probably work for this Czech agency are not pornstars with only a few scenes. According to Eurobabeindex they have done 40-80 porn movies so far and one of them is really a star, also here on Pierre's website.