RUSSIA - UKRAINE 2022 CONFLICT

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Pierre and El Major, It's ok now, we have both points of view, it's ok now guys, cool, El Major nobody forbid you to post here and to think the way you want too, you absolutly have the right to have your sense critic, based on what you beleive is "good and justice", of course there's opposition in front of you, maybe too much "unbalanced", but it's a debate and you can still express yourself, we know how it works when we enter this thread El Major, i already told you to not take some things said here too much into your heart, i know it's difficult sometimes, but it's a difficult debate, on a very difficult and sensible topic, as it cover horrible and dramatic events, but these's also very strongs intervenants here, with their personal positions, you know it and it's complicate, keep cool and relax

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PIERRE WOODMAN wrote:
Sat Sep 30, 2023 5:30 am
It's very difficult to have a discussion with anyone as you !!!
It's a bit same as trying explain Melenchon anything, he always think he is right in all he says and do.
How many times on this forum did you admit you could have been wrong about something ??? I haven't the feeling it happen once ... Why people the french press pretend to be "dictators" are neccessary really dictators toward their population ready for instance with Orban to reelect him 4 times ??? Why Macron who has OBLIGED the population to accept his law about age of retirement is less a dictator than Orban who cancel any law proposal once there are over 10 000 people going in the street against it ??? Where did you see 1200 building and few thousand cars burn in Hungary when the police does its job like few month ago in France ??? It's 100 times more peaceful in Hungary than France or Germany.
My friend Josh Cartu left europe before the war after taxes problems and started live in Russia. You know what he told me few weeks ago ?
That never the life in Russia has been so cool about prices of everything and time in Europe everybody pay more and more all in Russia is opposite. Only in pharmacy it's a bit complicate sometime to obtain some specific medications but on a general basis life is cheaper than before and life very peaceful. Foreigners as tourist are welcome, you put cashflow in Sberbank at arrival, they give you a local bank card immediately and you can use it as a Visa or Mastercard anywhere in the country.
But you know the best of the best ??? He his a super car collector and if you go on the net you will see what he does ...
So the very interesting ( shocking ? ) part of the actual situation is the fact he did not get delivered his Ferrari SF 90 because of the economic blocus of EU toward Russia but instead he got the newest Mc Laren delivered by boat on North of Russia
So yes Italy applicate the strict order of Brussels like good sheep time British does still money and business !!!
Yeah viva the blind little sheep of Europe united nation ready to jump from the precipice after following their leader !!!

So El Major you are wrong about me, you absolutely want see me has a dictators suporter, while I am just a man having travel all over the world, with eyes, ears , a good heart and I hope a normal brain able to not listen the press too much and accept the sad fact that what his presented to us as a dictature sometime is not and what is supposed be a democracy is a disguised dictatorship !!!

It's like on this forum, I think I am really cool with members and let them say a lot but when it goes to far and after various warning I close some guys account I am supposed be a dictator myself. Humans are often not able to be reasonnable and ready to kill each others for stupid reasons.
In my life I have often listened from various important people I had the chance to meet that when you have countries like China, India, Russia with so many different ethnies inside if you don't have an Iron hand to lead and control it then it's the chaos and everyone will try kill his neighboor !!! When you see what happen in France with only 1 problem of origine like we have ( North african and original french ) try imagine a country with 10, 20 or more variantes ... it's nightmare I think and will be a permanent fire if not a strong man in power.
Real freedom is a gift that most humans are unable to understand and appreciate at the proper value. Only after a big war or a long period under a true dictator like Franco or Pinochet the population feel it well and for a period the country is in peace after but step by step the situation always goes to the chaos again until one day one man comes and set up the situation with force. It has always been like that and will never change because of the world behavior ... and even the worst of the worst men like Khadafi or Hussein have never killed so more than 100 of their citizens by year while the "good" americans or europeans having "delivered" them brough wars, chaos and death everywhere and made 11 millions lives out in the last 25 years with a more unstable middle orient in countries like Lybia, Syria and Iraq where before everyone was living in peace !!!

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If they welcome people and tourist why do putin arrest american journalist, basketball player?

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alexus2 wrote:
Sat Sep 30, 2023 4:08 pm
If they welcome people and tourist why do putin arrest american journalist, basketball player?
Baby talk, as usual. One is suspected of espionage, the other was convicted of drug smuggling. They are banal criminals, that's who they are, not "victims of Putin's arbitrary rule", as you read in your lousy newspapers and decided to write here, without any understanding of the matter, as is usually the case with you.
And you thought you had an American passport, so you're untouchable? Not in Russia, buddy! Do you think only the USA is allowed to kidnap people from all over the world, citizens of other countries, and imprison them? You better take pity on poor D. Assange, who was turned into a haggard, decrepit old man after this journalist exposed all the abuses of the United States.
All foreigners who don't stick their noses where they don't belong live normally in Russia. And if an American marine thinks that it is possible to get drunk on alcohol to an animal state and walk the streets of a Russian city and make a riot, he is mistaken that it will go unpunished for him, because he has a foreign passport!

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I agree very much on last post of Pierre. But of course people can disagree and I see nowadays lot of disagreements from people that want to see the things like white or black or the good and the devil. But I think and it’s what I like in last Pierre statement he understood the reality is not white and black but grey. Many idealists and even more some politics in west Europe see all things like white and when problem occurs they are not able to face or lure the people. The problem is the human being in general. How many times I said unfortunately that human being deserve to disappear for many reasons first one I will say it’s killing and exterminating some other animal species form their earth. Maybe one day will come when human being will destroy each other with the technology they acquire like nuclear power and their stupidity and cupidity. We are so little in this earth and universe. If we destroy each other one day with nuclear war the planet will survive like it happens before with Dinausors and maybe some other more adapted species will survive. Just the drawin law. Read and reread the 1984 Novell…

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It's true ...
Many people forget or don't know about this :

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https://www.theguardian.com/science/201 ... life-prize


and that :

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https://time.com/4947879/stanislav-petr ... -obituary/


We should be more aware about the dark sky above our heads sometimes !!!


and this is also true :

You better take pity on poor D. Assange, who was turned into a haggard, decrepit old man after this journalist exposed all the abuses of the United States.

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I feel 2024 will be my best year ever !!!

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No need for climate change or atomic bombs, just a mutation of Covid that kills 90 % of the infected, is all it needs to send humans back into the Stone Age .....

:)

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Also true yes but risky whatever some people pretend you can't be sure it will be controlled while so many mutation can be made fast !!!

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Après l’horrible massacre perpétré par le Hamas on peut se dire que ce reportage de juin disait vrai :
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=gypx0bI74AM

Et qu’aujourd’hui bizarrement il faut aller sur Telegram pour trouver cette vidéo ou le Hamas remercie l’Ukraine pour les armes tandis qu’aucune TV européenne ou Americaine ne relais l’information alors que les arabes eux-memes sur Aljazeera le font !!!
C’est hallucinant à quel point on nous prend pour des cons …

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https://infodujour.fr/societe/securite/ ... d%27assaut

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I feel 2024 will be my best year ever !!!

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And what about that ????
Personnaly I can easily trust it ... maybe France will not be the poorest but for sure we are already far from the 60's to 90's great time ...



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Bobby wrote:
Sun Oct 01, 2023 2:26 pm
No need for climate change or atomic bombs, just a mutation of Covid that kills 90 % of the infected, is all it needs to send humans back into the Stone Age .....

:)
That or supposed vaccines.

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