Ne te marre pas !!!
Je l'ai déjà dit plein de fois il faut regarder ce documentaire d'Oliver Stone pour bien comprendre la situation actuelle.
Ca date de 2016, il n'y avait pas de guerre Russie/Ukraine et déjà on pouvait sentir ce qui allait se passer.
Oliver Stone fait les choses correctement, il n'a pas de parti pris et essaye juste de montrer les choses. Une fois que tu as vu ce doc tu comprends mieux qui est quoi sur cette terre. On manipule les gens un peu trop facilement et parfois il faut essayer de ranger ses idées reçues pour y voir plus clair.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=evbCiW6vzu8

PW

Pierre, who are you trying to explain something to? The person who hates everyone but himself, hates his homeland France, the person who sincerely believes that when the USA invaded other countries, overthrew governments of these countries, organized and instigated revolutions, it was all done "for the benefit of higher democratic and free values". Do you think he cares about your Orban? Yes, he will clap his hands when he is toppled. He, who lives in Canada, does not remember that the Canadian military contingent, participated in the Korean War, the Gulf War, the operation in Yugoslavia and Kosovo, were in Afghanistan. In all these places, they killed tens of thousands of people, "for the good of their values". Only he naively believes that being in Canada, and licking their American master's ass, will save them in the face of a modern third world war. They have long since stopped trying to think creatively, and have long acted according to the old, well-known methods; invading other countries, under "great-spiritual pretexts", arranging and provoking revolutions, overthrowing legitimately elected authorities. All this is not known and not understood only by uneducated and inexperienced young brats. They naively believe that, as usual, by "setting fire" to Eurasia, they will succeed in sitting back across the ocean, making a profit. Let them not be fooled, they will not be able to hide in today's world.

Well we all know the parameters and it's clear the USA are the masters of the world but since the end of the 90's I have to say it became a really dirty game.
First the explosion of the middle orient, with all these " arabians freedom spring" who killed millions and millions of people.
Now it's the big mess in Ukrain and of course it's Russia who has invaded Ukrain but yes the shadow of USA is behind the door for sure and now i'll be not surprised if they intend to make an "extention" with Hungary.
But here there is a huge difference with most other countries they try make explose, the population in huge majority loves Orban. It will be more complicate to create an Orange revolution in Hungary. Soros did his best for that and failed until now but life is so cruel sometime that sadly nothing is impossible !!!

PW

OK guys !!!

No way to restart here the Russia Ukrain topic.

Let just keep discussion about Hungary here.
Thanks

PW

PIERRE WOODMAN wrote: ↑

Wed Feb 22, 2023 4:12 pm

OK guys !!!

No way to restart here the Russia Ukrain topic.

Let just keep discussion about Hungary here.
Thanks

PW

It seems my post caused this thread to get distracted from the Hungary topic. I apologize for this. Maybe best to remove my post and the non-Hungary related following posts to get this thread back on track.

I put all "war" post in the place where it belongs to be !!!
with-pierre/russia-ukraine-2022-conflict-t48156.html

PW

Hi Pierre, where can I send you a personal email?

Thank you Jean I really need a secretary some days !!!

PW

Jean wrote: ↑

Mon Mar 06, 2023 7:07 pm

woodman.prod@yahoo.com

Thanks Jean!

I sent the email, Pierre