Russia's air defense systems have broken the world record for ground-to-air range, confirming their exclusivity. And this in real combat, not on paper.

https://militarywatchmagazine.com/artic ... 400km-40n6

According to estimates of many military experts, in a potential nuclear conflict, Russian air defense systems can neutralize up to 90% of missile attacks on the most significant infrastructure facilities and 70% on the rest of the territory. At the moment the main competitors have no resistance to offensive hypersonic nuclear weapons of Russia, such as "Sarmat-Avangard" and "Poseidon" nuclear submarine vehicle!!!

I hope no one will think to check this in practice!!!!

Les USA sont venu nous libérer des nazi en 45, les USA ont, littéralement, couvert Pierre "d'or" en 99/2000, ect

Je le dis parcque y'a un petit "vent" anti us, qui se propage ici, que je trouve parfois injuste, compte tenu du passé historique, tiens, même avant hier, Orban se demandait pourquoi il ne trouvait pas son ami Trump sur Twitter, par loyauté (j'ai vraiment trouvé ça courageux et touchant), mais en France, ou ailleurs, parfois j'ai le sentiment qu'on retourne parfois trop facilement sa veste, envers les USA

Il m'ont couvert d'or dans tes rêves !!!
Larry a gentiment oublié de me payer 20 % de l'ensemble du fric qu'il me devait. Ensuite pour avoir passé beaucoup de temps aux USA et même si c'est un pays que je trouve magnifique, je n'ai jamais voulu y vivre et n'y vivrais jamais !!!
Pourquoi ???
Parce que je ne connais aucun autre endroit au monde où les gens sont aussi faux, aussi double, triple, quadruple visages qu'aux USA. Un ou une ami( e ) américain(e) ça n'existe pas vraiment. Il suffit d'un mot, d'une action quelconque de ta part et tout se désagrége en une seconde. J'ai compris ça à la fin des années 80 quand je me baisais des modeles américaines dans la mode et j'ai bien enfoncé le clou pendant les 30 années suivantes dans le X pour être certain de ce que je dis !!!

Cette nation est ultra nationaliste et sa démocratie est une apparence. Ils foutent le bordel partout dans le monde, et le chaos du moyen orient depuis 25 ans c'est eux et eux seuls ( avec l'aide de crétins européens ) qui en sont responsables.
Aujourd'hui encore on met tout le crédit de cette guerre en Ukraine sur le dos de Poutine, qui oui c'est vrai n'aurait pas du envahir ce pays, mais qui est à la barre en arrière plan pour tout ça ??? Nous chers "amis" américain qui depuis 20 ans construisent ce bordel en Ukraine avec la révolution orange etc ... dont ils ont tiré toutes les ficelles !!!

Et l' Europe leur suce la bite avec la langue dans le cul jusqu'à l'estomac !!!

De toute façon un pays où on peut conduire à 16 ans, acheter un fligue à 18 ans et avoir 21 ans pour boire une bière à obligatoirement un problème !!!

Rien que leur "news" avant hier ( j'ai reçu ça d'un soldat Russe qui est mon fan ) montre le niveau de manipulation des populations en temps de guerre :

MVitaly5 wrote: ↑

Sun Oct 16, 2022 4:35 pm

Russia's air defense systems have broken the world record for ground-to-air range, confirming their exclusivity. And this in real combat, not on paper.

https://militarywatchmagazine.com/artic ... 400km-40n6

According to estimates of many military experts, in a potential nuclear conflict, Russian air defense systems can neutralize up to 90% of missile attacks on the most significant infrastructure facilities and 70% on the rest of the territory. At the moment the main competitors have no resistance to offensive hypersonic nuclear weapons of Russia, such as "Sarmat-Avangard" and "Poseidon" nuclear submarine vehicle!!!

I hope no one will think to check this in practice!!!!

Sorry Vitaly, I feel all this is only propaganda !!!
Looking how since the americans are "in" the Ukrain territory ( discretly but surely ) the Russian army step back and get new slap every day, I don't think their image of second best army of the world is justified !!!
Maybe they have some superior weapons but for now out of destroying some building with civilians inside I haven't seen any proove of big muscles from Russians in Ukrains. Their 60 km long group of tanks has been atomised by few drones, they went back home after so many soldats died, and now obvioulsy the south east start to also take same direction !!!

Maybe wise thing will be to invite all russophone people who want leave Ukrain to go in Russia, build some houses for them and leave Ukrain to her destiny.
That will be cheaper, saving thousand and thousand of lives, and maybe help us ( europeans ) to breath a bit because this war is positive only for USA until now !!!

PW

Pierre, russia does not need people at all, all this time, all those who wanted to leave Ukraine for russia could do so calmly. but they lived in Ukraine, even calmly spoke their language. Until 2014, there was no aggression towards russia at all. Until russian troops invaded Donbas and annexed Crimea.
There are no moral principles for modern russia, they are ready to violate any agreements at any level. Whether it is Gazprom's gas supply contract, or the Budapest memorandum on maintaining borders. the russians even stopped observing their constitution altogether. the entire opposition was either killed (Politkovskaya, Nemtsov), or attempted murder and then imprisoned (Navalny), or simply imprisoned for far-fetched reasons (there are just too many such names), or forced to go abroad to save their lives. for the sake of its fucking imperialism, this bloody empire will stop at nothing. Propaganda of hatred for anything in the country has reached incredible heights. tomorrow, as necessary, in any country they can organize a meeting with flags in support of russia and on camera organize an attack on them, and then shout from the screens about the need to protect the russians. And all these statements about russian tanks in Lisbon are not for nothing, they really want it. only they can't even cope with Ukraine

PIERRE WOODMAN wrote: ↑

Mon Oct 17, 2022 7:19 am

Sorry Vitaly, I feel all this is only propaganda !!!

Well, that's your right to think so. I don't think so. I believe that you are susceptible to false propaganda!

PIERRE WOODMAN wrote: ↑

Mon Oct 17, 2022 7:19 am

Looking how since the americans are "in" the Ukrain territory ( discretly but surely ) the Russian army step back and get new slap every day, I don't think their image of second best army of the world is justified !!!

How can you not understand that the quantitative superiority of the combined army of Ukraine, international mercenaries and NATO is 6-10 times greater than the Russian contract army directly involved in the operation in Ukraine! They are piling corpses on the land of Ukraine. Just yesterday there was a massive attack on Kherson and they were defeated by the Russian army. The line of contact is littered with mountains of corpses. They just don't show it to you! Yes, the Russian army is now more in positional defense, which is why its losses are minimal, because it is much harder to attack than to defend. The Ukrainian army and NATO are now trying to attack and are losing everywhere with heavy losses. The difference in losses, for the entire period of the war is 15 times. The Ukrainian army and NATO in September managed to break through a small section of the defense line in the Kharkov region and occupy several cities. But that is their entire success, based only on the fact that the front line in Ukraine is more than 1,000 kilometers long, and the Russian army simply does not have enough numbers to tightly hold such a long front line. In these cities occupied by the Ukrainian army in the Kharkov region, there were only small detachments of "Rosgvardiya," which were ordered to retreat. For the moment, the front has stabilized there and the Ukrainian Army is suffering only casualties. According to various estimates, up to 500 Ukrainian soldiers, mercenaries or NATO mercenaries per day are killed in different parts of the front. You can consider this as propaganda, but the enormous losses are not even hidden by Ukrainian and Western sources. It's just these, local successes of the united army of Ukraine and NATO, are shown to you by all your media a hundred times and from different angles!!!
That's why there is a partial mobilization in Russia right now, so that mobilized experienced former military men could just hold the front, and cadre military men will attack anyway. In addition, other military districts in Russia should not be completely denuded. The regular army and aviation, which were not even involved in the operation, are being transferred to Belarus.
We'll see what happens next, we shouldn't be in a hurry to draw conclusions. The united army of Ukraine and NATO has not achieved anything significant in the offensive so far, they pave the ground with corpses and burned NATO equipment regularly.

PIERRE WOODMAN wrote: ↑

Mon Oct 17, 2022 7:19 am

Maybe they have some superior weapons but for now out of destroying some building with civilians inside I haven't seen any proove of big muscles from Russians in Ukrains.

The performance of one of the best armies in the world is not made up of wiping out some land without leaving any infrastructure or people there!!!!
The U.S. does this because it doesn't give a shit about Serbia, Iraq, Afghanistan and the people of these countries, which it destroyed with massive bombing raids.
Doesn't add up to a quantitative offensive, achieving quick success, but piling up the bodies of their soldiers on that land! That's what Ukraine is doing now. They have already had 4 waves of mobilization. In the cities, they simply drag people by the scruff of the neck to the military registration and enlistment offices. This is not shown to the general public. And Ukrainian citizens are forbidden to talk about it under pain of criminal punishment.

Here is a video of the Americans bombing a peaceful European city of Belgrade.

https://youtu.be/eKapAP7_J2c

Do you want Russia to act the same way in Ukraine???

On October 10, 2022, the Russian Army, in response to terrorist attacks in Russia, struck Ukraine's power system, communications and military facilities with high-precision weapons for the first time in the entire operation, destroying a third of Ukraine's power system in the process. And 11 people were killed, even by false Ukrainian counts!!!! Yes, any life is a tragedy, but there is a war going on, dozens of people die every day in the cities of Dombass from Ukrainian shelling with NATO equipment. So that's just in one day!!! What army in the world can do that? Well, am I listening to you? Russia, has a navy, the most technologically advanced nuclear forces. In the Ukrainian special operation, about 150,000-200,000 troops were involved. After a certain amount of time, there is a rotation by the same amount, because servicemen also need to rest. The front line is very long, so there is a partial mobilization to recruit 300,000 former military personnel, or those with the right specialty for the war. All some provocative insinuations about this are all lies.
Understand that there is a whole organization in Ukraine responsible for spreading disinformation in the media (CYPSO), which is run by the British and American special services. Under the guise of Russian sources, they can provide you with disinformation that you will not even realize you are being misled.

Once again, I say that Russia is not using heavy weapons in Ukraine! Bye!

PIERRE WOODMAN wrote: ↑

Mon Oct 17, 2022 7:19 am

Their 60 km long group of tanks has been atomised by few drones, they went back home after so many soldats died, and now obvioulsy the south east start to also take same direction !!!

What is this nonsense?
Where did you get this information? Where are your sources?

PIERRE WOODMAN wrote: ↑

Mon Oct 17, 2022 7:19 am

Maybe wise thing will be to invite all russophone people who want leave Ukrain to go in Russia, build some houses for them and leave Ukrain to her destiny.

So what happens next?
The Nazis are there. They will come to you in Hungary, after destroying the Hungarians on their territory. Haven't you had enough of the lessons of World War II?

PIERRE WOODMAN wrote: ↑

Mon Oct 17, 2022 7:19 am

That will be cheaper, saving thousand and thousand of lives, and maybe help us ( europeans ) to breath a bit because this war is positive only for USA until now !!!

PW

So you (Europeans) get the fuck off your American dick and be a man and understand what's in it for you!!!!
You provoked this war and now you're playing the fucking victim of circumstance! Aren't you out of your fucking mind?

russia is a faschist state

Found a video of how "powerful russian anti-aircraft defense" helps the Disney company in creating a corporate screen

MVitaly5 wrote: ↑

Mon Oct 17, 2022 8:51 am

Here is a video of the Americans bombing a peaceful European city of Belgrade.

https://youtu.be/eKapAP7_J2c

Lie as always. the video link is not Belgrade, but the destruction of terrorists in Iraq.

MVitaly5 wrote: ↑

Mon Oct 17, 2022 8:51 am

So what happens next?
The Nazis are there. They will come to you in Hungary, after destroying the Hungarians on their territory. Haven't you had enough of the lessons of World War II?

the only nazis to watch out for now are russian

MVitaly5 wrote: ↑

Mon Oct 17, 2022 8:51 am

So you (Europeans) get the fuck off your American dick and be a man and understand what's in it for you!!!!
You provoked this war and now you're playing the fucking victim of circumstance! Aren't you out of your fucking mind?

congratulations, Europeans. we are provoking war with our well-fed, successful, peaceful existence. Nothing new, the same aggression in Ukraine was provoked by the same European development strategy. It's just fucked up

pierro wrote: ↑

Mon Oct 17, 2022 11:16 am

MVitaly5 wrote: ↑

Mon Oct 17, 2022 8:51 am

Here is a video of the Americans bombing a peaceful European city of Belgrade.

https://youtu.be/eKapAP7_J2c

Lie as always. the video link is not Belgrade, but the destruction of terrorists in Iraq.

Just made a mistake with the link to the video.
Here's the other one.

https://youtu.be/H8-3JQcKWkg

Actually, how does that change the point that you are terrorists?

Once again, I appeal here to all those who think they are "great military strategists" and take it upon themselves to draw conclusions about real war.

War is not the pictures you watch on TV or on the Internet, and not American action movies, where some Rambo or Commando, destroys all alone.

War is pain, loss, a serious test for soldiers and the unpredictability of actions and developments. And it is better handled by those with greater morale, motivation, skill, combat coherence and military equipment.

Let's do a very brief analysis of wars and an excursion into history, at least the period after World War II.

Where did which armies seriously prove themselves?

Britain won the "Falklands War" against Argentina. How is that a war? A military skirmish, nothing more.

The most aggressive country is the United States.

The Korean War. Hundreds of thousands of dead Koreans, the division of Korea into North and South.

The Vietnam War. The U.S. scorched the entire country with napalm and massive bombing. When it landed troops, it began to suffer brutal losses. Eventually lost that war, losing more than 60,000 of its soldiers. But the psychological defeat was even worse. To this day, many in the U.S. are still experiencing Vietnam syndrome.

I am now deliberately omitting the many minor conflicts that were provoked and orchestrated by the U.S.

The Soviet invasion of Afghanistan. The Soviet command, achieved its objectives by eliminating a government hostile to the Soviet Union in Afghanistan, but in a protracted guerrilla war, also began to suffer casualties, and eventually withdrew troops from Afghanistan (losses of about 15,000).

The U.S. and NATO bombing of peaceful Yugoslavia. Huge number of civilian deaths. Different sources have different figures. All this under far-fetched pretexts. The bombing of Belgrade, the capital of a country that had almost no air defense equipment. The result: the destruction of Yugoslavia and its division into small states. Serbia is still licking its wounds.

"Powell's test tube." Under the fake pretext that Iraq had chemical weapons, the U.S. and NATO invasion of Iraq. The Americans wiped out many Iraqi cities by massive indiscriminate bombing. More than a million Iraqi civilians are estimated to have died. The Americans took Baghdad only by bribing Saadam Hussein's intelligence services, which turned out to be corrupt and betrayed their leader. Result: Practically destruction of Iraqi infrastructure, civilian casualties, execution of the leader of a sovereign state. Now there is chaos in this country.

The U.S., itself buried 3,000 of its own citizens under the rubble of the World Trade Center skyscrapers in New York and invaded Afghanistan under that pretext. Again, many civilian victims and American soldiers. And what were the targets? The world opium explosion. After 20 years in Afghanistan, the U.S. Army fled Afghanistan, leaving the people who worked for them at the mercy of the Taliban, abandoning billions of dollars worth of military equipment. And what were the reputational losses? Only the corrupt media supports the reputation of the U.S. and NATO.

Ruining Libya, the U.S. and NATO, and killing the sovereign leader Gaddafi. Libya was one of the most prosperous countries in Africa, and now there is chaos, anarchy and infighting.

To return to my question. What army of the world has ever shown itself in any way that would allow us to assess its combat effectiveness?

The USA and NATO have failed in almost all of their military adventures, except for the destruction of countries that could not respond to them with any dignity. European countries, lost all their colonies in the 60's of the 20th century. Everywhere they are being kicked out with a fucking broom.
The Chinese army, big, and where has it fought and shown itself? They are even afraid to solve the Taiwan issue militarily. For now, at least. And it's just a small island.

Now to the main point.
The military conflict that is now taking place in Ukraine is already recognized by many reputable analysts as the most serious and largest since World War II.
At the moment, the Russian Army in Ukraine, in addition to the much larger Ukrainian army, is being confronted by tens of thousands of NATO cadres and international mercenaries. NATO is investing billions to help Ukraine, and Europe has given Ukraine virtually all of its military equipment (source: Stoltenberg!) And the result? Russia continues to hold the liberated territories: the Donetsk, Luhansk, Kherson and Zaporozhye regions. And will hold them. Huge human losses of the combined army of Ukraine and NATO, which is 15 times higher than the losses of the Russian Army (this is not only Russian sources).
Far from the entire military resource of the Russian Army is still in use. Russia is very protective of Ukraine's infrastructure and people, and does not use heavy weapons (heavy high-explosive aerial bombs). For now, anyway.
Russia has already won this war because it has liberated the territories it planned to liberate and it will not give them up. Because to attack is not to defend. It is harder and more expensive to attack than to defend. Let NATO bash its forehead in the echelon defense of the Russian Army in these territories. Soon the Russian Army will be reinforced by experienced and trained soldiers, and will go on the offensive again.
You can consider it Russian propaganda, I don't care! Don't tell me then that a few months ago I didn't warn everybody about this. Russia will win this war, not only militarily, but also economically. The clouds are already thickening over non-sovereign Europe, and let's see what happens next, given the growing protest attitudes among the populations of these countries against aid to Ukraine and sanctions against Russia. If you want to ruin yourself, go ahead and do the same...