RUSSIA - UKRAINE 2022 CONFLICT

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Today another shelling of Donetsk by the Ukrainian army, with NATO caliber ammunition.
Thirteen people were killed, including two children. :(

https://youtu.be/Fhz2QkWCfhk

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Nobody wants to read any more of this shite coming out of the Russian propaganda machine! Please close this
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MVitaly5 wrote:
Mon Sep 19, 2022 7:23 pm
Today another shelling of Donetsk by the Ukrainian army, with NATO caliber ammunition.
Thirteen people were killed, including two children. :(

https://youtu.be/Fhz2QkWCfhk
You are very ignorant and fake person. So tell us why you ignore all the children who dies at the hands of Putins actions? You never mentioned all this but you talk about 2 children. What stupidity is this?
What you and this JDR character have been writing here is pure Russian progranda.

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16 reasons not to move to Russia...

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MVitaly5 wrote:
Mon Sep 19, 2022 7:23 pm
Today another shelling of Donetsk by the Ukrainian army, with NATO caliber ammunition.
Thirteen people were killed, including two children. :(

https://youtu.be/Fhz2QkWCfhk
Yeah I saw it on the Russian news this afternoon. Saddened me immensely. Pure evil. Pure terrorism. Pure svidomy.

Vitaly, what is your assessment about Russian Air defenses and the amount of hits from HIMARS and other systems getting through? Is it because air defences have been transferred back to Russian border since Tactical retreat from Kharkov, so airdefence systems are insufficient in number to protect all of Donbass?

Are there just blindspots because scumbag ukronazi terrorist pigs are targeting purely civilian targets, that Russian planners would reasonably expect to have to position and engage airdefence systems?

Are ukronazis using a variety of different systems at the same target, engaging Russian air defences and then overwhelming it by using HIMARS, as has been claimed?

Although they make practically no difference to Russian strategy and what goes on, on the battlefield - they are very useful weapons for terrorist acts like this - so what can be done to better intercept MLRS and heavy artillery strikes from these NATO ghouls and protect innocent civilians, do you think?

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Sharpshooter wrote:
Mon Sep 19, 2022 7:44 pm
MVitaly5 wrote:
Mon Sep 19, 2022 7:23 pm
Today another shelling of Donetsk by the Ukrainian army, with NATO caliber ammunition.
Thirteen people were killed, including two children. :(

https://youtu.be/Fhz2QkWCfhk
You are very ignorant and fake person. So tell us why you ignore all the children who dies at the hands of Putins actions? You never mentioned all this but you talk about 2 children. What stupidity is this?
What you and this JDR character have been writing here is pure Russian progranda.
Children are dying at the hands of the Ukronazis you ignorant fool. This is the first war where the so-called "defending force" of Ukraine is solely responsible for civilian casualties.
A few thousand in Kiev and the North civilians were SHOT dead, which means either the Nazis settling scores against peaceful civilians, or overzealous drug addict territorial defence freaks killing them. Russia has no connection to these murders.

There is simply no Russian precision strike from Kalibr missiles or other long-range weapons, leaving tens of murdered and injured civilians dead on the streets, as happened with the scumbag ukronazis terrorising Donetsk today.
Anything similar is caused entirety from ukronazi false flag and mislaunch of airdefence systems. Same thing with russian artillery strikes which purely directed against military infrastructure that these scum hide in civilian buildings.

Humanity should be so proud of how Russia is fighting this war

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Vitaly - today's massacre from M777 of course, but the main thing I want to know is addressing HIMARS problem - if it even is a problem

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JDR wrote:
Mon Sep 19, 2022 9:22 pm
MVitaly5 wrote:
Mon Sep 19, 2022 7:23 pm
Today another shelling of Donetsk by the Ukrainian army, with NATO caliber ammunition.
Thirteen people were killed, including two children. :(

https://youtu.be/Fhz2QkWCfhk
Yeah I saw it on the Russian news this afternoon. Saddened me immensely. Pure evil. Pure terrorism. Pure svidomy.

Vitaly, what is your assessment about Russian Air defenses and the amount of hits from HIMARS and other systems getting through? Is it because air defences have been transferred back to Russian border since Tactical retreat from Kharkov, so airdefence systems are insufficient in number to protect all of Donbass?

Are there just blindspots because scumbag ukronazi terrorist pigs are targeting purely civilian targets, that Russian planners would reasonably expect to have to position and engage airdefence systems?

Are ukronazis using a variety of different systems at the same target, engaging Russian air defences and then overwhelming it by using HIMARS, as has been claimed?

Although they make practically no difference to Russian strategy and what goes on, on the battlefield - they are very useful weapons for terrorist acts like this - so what can be done to better intercept MLRS and heavy artillery strikes from these NATO ghouls and protect innocent civilians, do you think?
The Russian air defense system works in Dombass, and it is quite effective. But you understand that it is very difficult to intercept all targets, especially when there is an echelon and volley of artillery and MLRS fire. If we consider the intensity of the shelling of civilian neighborhoods in the cities of Dombas by the Ukranazis, without an air defense system, there would have been nothing but ruins long ago.
Any missile defense or air defense system has its own nuances. Echelon and volley fire, short-range and low-flying targets present special difficulties. The Russian "Pantsir-S" and "Tor" are especially effective against small targets. S-400, S-300 and Buk on large targets. But for them to be super effective, they have to be constantly on, but it is impossible because radar stations cannot work without interruptions. The priority of air defense systems is always unambiguous. The most dangerous and large targets are prioritized: planes, helicopters, attack drones, barraging munitions, Switchblade kamikaze drones, ballistic missiles like Tochka-U, because Ukronazis, equip them with cluster munitions and PFM-1 Lepestok mines, and HIMARS MLRS munitions. All that I have listed, the Russian air defenses, quite effectively shoot down, but from massive artillery strikes, such as M777 or French Caesars, or MLRS, if they still shoot from short ranges, not everything is intercepted by the air defense systems. Also, the use of simple artillery shells, much cheaper than the ammunition of air defense systems. And there are many other nuances: the deployment of systems and the direction of fire, weather conditions, and really just can be a gap in the air defense on various technical problems.

Most importantly.
After the cessation of hostilities in Dombass in 2014, the line of contact ran practically along the western outskirts of Donetsk. Naturally, the Ukrainian government did not intend to implement the Minsk agreements, but was purposefully preparing for war with the DNR, LNR, and Russia. For 8 years, NATO constantly supplied the Ukrainian army, NATO instructors worked, and most importantly they created very serious echeloned defenses in the suburbs of Donetsk and other cities of Dombass.
To the west of Donetsk, the Ukronazis created concrete hangars in the ground, where they put their military equipment. Periodically, they take it out of the hangar, fire a salvo, and then drive it back into the hangar, thereby ensuring their safety from a retaliatory strike. The thickness of the roof of such a hangar is more than 1.5 meters of solid concrete. So the Ukranazis constantly fire from there, using NATO artillery on peaceful neighborhoods in the cities of Dombass.
Of course, one could have long ago driven them out of there or buried them there if the Russian army had used, heavy aerial bombs. But this would leave a scorched field in place of Dombass towns: Avdiivka, Marinka and others, and the Russian people of Dombass, who are held hostage by the Ukronazis. This is why it takes so long for all of this to be liberated, also because it is mostly the DNR militia that are fighting in this area. The Russian Army is more concentrated to the north in the LNR and the south of Ukraine.

Actually, to answer your question, in my personal opinion, we need to stop ceremonizing with the Ukranazis and NATO bastards and use heavier and more serious means of destruction. Naturally, they should not hit residential areas, but rather a concentration of army formations, military infrastructure, logistics facilities, and logistical communications. Only Russia has anti-satellite weapons. If it were up to me, I would have already shot down all of Musk's Starlink civilian satellites. And then I would ironically tell the whole world that they were hit by a meteor shower. The Americans, on the other hand, are always making a fool of NATO, "not at war" in Ukraine...

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JDR wrote:
Mon Sep 19, 2022 10:06 pm
Vitaly - today's massacre from M777 of course, but the main thing I want to know is addressing HIMARS problem - if it even is a problem
There is nothing special about this ammunition. Their main effect is that they are mobile. They can fire a salvo and immediately evade return fire. And also different types of ammunition: guided and unguided. The most dangerous are GMLRS family guided munitions with GPS guidance.
The Russian Army's mobile MLRS vehicles are no worse: BM-21 "Grad", BM-27 "Uragan" and BM-30 "Smerch", and the modern Russian MLRSs "Tornado-S" or "Tornado-S", also have guided munitions, guided by the Russian satellite navigation system "Glonass".

You see JDR, just American HIMARS, NATO spotters, are targeting civilian objects to intimidate people, not the Russian Army. That's why you often hear about them. As it is, there's nothing special about them. Serious weapons, but no more than that. Ammunition is very expensive and they will run out soon. But then the U.S. will present a bill to the Ukrainian people when their junkie president, having lost the war, flees to the West. The Americans do not give anything to anyone for nothing. Now they will sell arms to their "friends and allies" the Europeans...

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Great RuSSia recruit prisoners as a soliders. This country is a joke :lol:

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