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J'ai vu que la production et la diffusion de contenus pornographique en Russie était strictment intedite et donc passible de prison. https://ukrfkod.ru/statja-242/ Je me demande comment Nick Rock ( Artem Mihailov ) fait pour trouver des gens qui acceptent de travailler avec lui et qu'il ne soit pas inquiété par Roskomnadzor. Cela veut-il dire qu'il tourne ses vidéos dans la clandestinité ?

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There are a lot of nuances here, the legal interpretation of the law and procedural actions, in particular the procedure for proving the crime.
To begin with, the priority of the law enforcement agencies in Russia and their response is everything to do with pornography involving minors, pedophilia, etc.
They are much more lenient towards the pornographic industry in its classical sense, and sometimes they simply do not have time for it. The main difficulty here is the difficulty in proving the criminal activity of the porn producers. Yes, there are clauses 242, 242.1 in the Russian Criminal Law, which directly prohibit the production and distribution of pornography. And there are precedents for prosecution under these articles, but mostly for distribution. You mentioned persons who already have extensive experience in making pornography. They would never admit that the shooting took place on the territory of Russia, and they would claim that they are engaged in distribution only in Europe. It is legally very difficult to prove otherwise, and consequently it is very difficult to bring them to criminal responsibility. They don't release materials on hard drives now, but distribute them via the Internet. The police would have to conduct time-consuming operations with introduction of "fake" participants (actresses), because filming of experienced pornographers is always done with written consent of all participants on different rented apartments. And rarely do any of them complain to law enforcement afterwards. I think it's just that the police don't want to get involved. Sometimes they detain and prosecute, but only those who in addition to pornography are involved in running brothels, organizing prostitution and escort services, pimping, which may involve drugs or minors, i.e. criminal offences are more serious.

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Yeah but when there are the street of St Petersburg in the video it's obvious it was shoot there but deeply I am not against the fact people shoot in Russia ( I did it a lot ) but the way Nick Rock abuse of the Russian girls should be punished by russian authorities. When you listen what said Lia Lin or Holly Molly and few others, it's clear this guy should be in prison but a rich man in Prague support his job because he does profit from it of course and it's really another dirty business more on his references !!!

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PIERRE WOODMAN wrote:
Wed Aug 17, 2022 10:21 pm
Yeah but when there are the street of St Petersburg in the video it's obvious it was shoot
Well, nowadays it seems rare to shoot video on the street, mostly still use apartments. In any case, the police are too lazy to carry out difficult and time-consuming operational activities, then the investigation, so that the villain then received a fine in court, or, at most, a suspended sentence.
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Wed Aug 17, 2022 10:21 pm
When you listen what said Lia Lin or Holly Molly and few others, it's clear this guy should be in prison
But for some reason they don't go to the police and report this guy. And you and they know exactly why. Because they voluntarily signed up for a very specific line of work at the time, and they don't want to make it so public. It would immediately become public knowledge of the very far-flung world of porn. Von Luba (Lola Taylor), always looking for an adventure on her ass, was raped twice, reported to the police, the perpetrators are still sitting in jail.

I know this guy, he's pretty stupid, because on you tube, he posted videos and talked about his activities there, and this is in Russia! In these videos he showed himself as a dumb kid, despising "live material", which he used as a common pimp. There was also a lot of information that he constantly terrorized his girlfriends, who also starred in porn. One Evelina Darling, repeatedly shed bitter tears that her boyfriend beat her, took her money, held her passport. What was the point? Did she report him to the police? No. Honestly, it's also a mystery to me how this dick hasn't been prosecuted, at least for pimping, or that some hot dzhigit from the Caucasus didn't tear his ass up because he acted as an agent and girls from the Caucasus. It's strict there...

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Si tu as des preuves contre lui, autant le dénoncer au ФСБ. Il arrêtera de faire ses vidéos avec ses potes qui se piquent la bite. Il me semble d'ailleurs avoir vu Martin Spen dans une des vidéos ici. Ce que tu dis me fais penser à ce qui se passe avec Jacquie & Michel en France actuellement. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tKroAhVwHT0 J'espère au moins que les filles sont mieux payées en Russie que chez, nous comparativement au salaire moyen et au coût de la vie.

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MVitaly5 wrote:
Wed Aug 17, 2022 11:09 pm
PIERRE WOODMAN wrote:
Wed Aug 17, 2022 10:21 pm
Yeah but when there are the street of St Petersburg in the video it's obvious it was shoot
Well, nowadays it seems rare to shoot video on the street, mostly still use apartments. In any case, the police are too lazy to carry out difficult and time-consuming operational activities, then the investigation, so that the villain then received a fine in court, or, at most, a suspended sentence.
PIERRE WOODMAN wrote:
Wed Aug 17, 2022 10:21 pm
When you listen what said Lia Lin or Holly Molly and few others, it's clear this guy should be in prison
But for some reason they don't go to the police and report this guy. And you and they know exactly why. Because they voluntarily signed up for a very specific line of work at the time, and they don't want to make it so public. It would immediately become public knowledge of the very far-flung world of porn. Von Luba (Lola Taylor), always looking for an adventure on her ass, was raped twice, reported to the police, the perpetrators are still sitting in jail.

I know this guy, he's pretty stupid, because on you tube, he posted videos and talked about his activities there, and this is in Russia! In these videos he showed himself as a dumb kid, despising "live material", which he used as a common pimp. There was also a lot of information that he constantly terrorized his girlfriends, who also starred in porn. One Evelina Darling, repeatedly shed bitter tears that her boyfriend beat her, took her money, held her passport. What was the point? Did she report him to the police? No. Honestly, it's also a mystery to me how this dick hasn't been prosecuted, at least for pimping, or that some hot dzhigit from the Caucasus didn't tear his ass up because he acted as an agent and girls from the Caucasus. It's strict there...
TV news in Russia is full of many brothels being raided either by law enforcement, or by the Christian-nationalist organisations, where they often humiliate the captured women - forcing them to walk outside naked and other stuff. Similar things have happened with "Voyeur house" set up porn being raided.

They conducted big raids in Saint Petersburg porno about 2011-12,which had huge ramifications for porno industry, not just in Russia, but the whole world industry. Upto then super-bombas like Krystal Boys and plenty others were filming porno in SP regularly. All of which makes me surprised NRX/VK studios are working now, but maybe enough time has passed for the authorities to be lenient.

Having said that, why are similar porno studio operations not being set-up elsewhere like Krasnodar, Ekaterinberg or Vladivostok? Why limit to and continue only in SP?

The 2011/12 crackdown on porno in Russia was a double blow because of all the Ukrainian models who would have gone there upto 2017, when the Nazis who run Ukraine under American cover, banned direct flights and train journeys to Russia. We would have seen many more traditionally softcore ultra-bomb Ukrainian women doing hardcore if that crackdown didn't happen.

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JDR wrote:
Fri Aug 19, 2022 12:27 pm
They conducted big raids in Saint Petersburg porno about 2011-12,which had huge ramifications for porno industry, not just in Russia, but the whole world industry. Upto then super-bombas like Krystal Boys and plenty others were filming porno in SP regularly. All of which makes me surprised NRX/VK studios are working now, but maybe enough time has passed for the authorities to be lenient.

Having said that, why are similar porno studio operations not being set-up elsewhere like Krasnodar, Ekaterinberg or Vladivostok? Why limit to and continue only in SP?
They don't open because it's not profitable from a business perspective, for several reasons.
First, in Russia it is forbidden by law, that is, it is an unnecessary inconvenience.
Secondly, in Russia, classic porno videos made by professional studios are not paid or ordered much. This is largely due to the fact that the public mentality in Russia for the most part is more conservative than in the same Europe. That is, they may love porn, but they will never flaunt it.
Thirdly, in Russia those who really want porn of specific categories and who have money for it can order it in illegal non-public studios, working unofficially in Russia or in Ukraine. Ukraine is such a mess right now that you can order anything you want.

Production of this Nick in Russia little people need, and for that he never paid a lot, because he specifically works for a customer in Europe, where they pay more. This is also profitable for the girls, because they mostly live in Russia, and in Russia they will buy a lot more for 100 euros than they would in Europe.

St. Petersburg has always been considered the "capital" of porn in Russia. Many people who used to shoot porn in Russia have now moved to Europe, to Budapest for example, because it makes less and less sense to shoot studio porn for public distribution in Russia.
JDR wrote:
Fri Aug 19, 2022 12:27 pm
The 2011/12 crackdown on porno in Russia was a double blow because of all the Ukrainian models who would have gone there upto 2017, when the Nazis who run Ukraine under American cover, banned direct flights and train journeys to Russia. We would have seen many more traditionally softcore ultra-bomb Ukrainian women doing hardcore if that crackdown didn't happen.
This may have become a "problem" for Ukrainian porn models, but not for Ukrainian prostitutes. :lol:
In Moscow, more than 80% of all prostitutes and escorts are girls from Ukraine.

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