Well, he will probably say same about you !!!
It's the problem of opinions with variance but I would like everyone to be able post here with respect for others because fight with agressivity is not the best option ...

PW

Non, Pierre, la différence est flagrante entre un individu qui présente une situation en la détaillant, en étant factuel, puis en expliquant les mécanismes qui ont amené à cette situation. Un raisonnement construit et argumenté tout simplement. Ce qui n'empêche pas de se tromper, mais il y a le fond et la forme.
El Mayor, comme tout bon gauchiste, dit tout et son contraire, et ne fait que dans les poncifs habituels et le sentimentalisme. Quand tu lis ses commentaires (ce qui est très pénible), tu te rends tout de suite compte que c'est le charabia que l'on retrouve partout, dénué de toute intelligence, qu'on apprend par coeur et qu'on récite de manière bovine, telle une miss à un concours de beauté.

Si on veut parler du gauchisme, et plus précisément, de l'immigration, il faut dire aussi, que ça n'a pas apporté que des problèmes, exemple avec Alain Deloin, qui est un gars bien, mais on est bien d'accord, que beaucoup d'autres, ont des soucis d'intégrations, avec la république.

NalexTT wrote: ↑

Sun Jun 05, 2022 1:28 am

El Major is the perfect exemple of a leftist. Totally stupid and wrong about everything.

I have never voted to left like you say actually but for a facist piece of shit like you everyone is a communist obviously

Jean wrote: ↑

Sun Jun 05, 2022 1:40 pm

Si on veut parler du gauchisme, et plus précisément, de l'immigration, il faut dire aussi, que ça n'a pas apporté que des problèmes, exemple avec Alain Deloin, qui est un gars bien, mais on est bien d'accord, que beaucoup d'autres, ont des soucis d'intégrations, avec la république.

Yes he seems great . I am in no way for free immigration or blind to problems with too much immigration . There is a huge gap fron there to these morons who like NalexTT talk about this topic as its a conspiricy between meida and politicians other than the far right to replace the european people . And have to be stopped at all cost. Its the same crap Anders Behring Breivk , Brenton Tarrant and others have have used to justify shooting kids in the face.

Jean wrote: ↑

Sun Jun 05, 2022 1:40 pm

Si on veut parler du gauchisme, et plus précisément, de l'immigration, il faut dire aussi, que ça n'a pas apporté que des problèmes, exemple avec Alain Deloin, qui est un gars bien, mais on est bien d'accord, que beaucoup d'autres, ont des soucis d'intégrations, avec la république.

I will express my attitude to the problem of migration in the world and in France in particular.
I think that many native French are not very happy with the migration policy of the French authorities for several reasons.
Naturally, the problem is more profound and cannot be described in detail in two words, but in short...
The main thing is to separate the concepts, namely the discontent of native Frenchmen with the influx of migrants into their country from the concept of nationalism, xenophobia, chauvinism, racism, etc. Most of the reasons for discontent have nothing to do with the fact that the French are some kind of nationalists, on the contrary, many are quite loyal and tolerant to other nations, races and religions. Nevertheless, the issue is very acute. And it's all about, as usual, the wrong policies and their negative consequences.
1 point. The difference in cultures and in the progress of cultural development. France has historically been a mono-ethnic country. Accordingly, the culture of the French developed within their narrow society, plus some integration into the pan-European, approximately similar culture. When people with a different culture, other values, traditions, religion arrive to the territory of this society, and when this flow, supported by the policy of the state, acquires huge forms, then, in fact, enclave administrative units are created, which in the future, with this policy will lead to the emergence of either a state within a state, or this new society, will dictate and impose its conditions, lifestyle, politics, laws, traditions, culture, religion on the indigenous society, and the worst in the future, it will assimilate the native population. I think it is not necessary to explain what this will lead to in France in the end. It will also be facilitated by the progress of culture in a certain society. In Europe, with their constant fetishization of same-sex marriages, the so-called "childfree" movement, professional career and success above all, and the family is secondary, there is a sharp demographic crisis, the native population is rapidly dying out, and families of Muslim migrants with their traditional values and religious beliefs, for example, will increase. Draw your own conclusions about your new "free values" and their benefits for the future of your nation.
2nd point. Lack of filtering. I think I do not need to explain that migrants generally go to another country not from the good life in their country. And the composition of these migrants can be very different, by the level of professional qualification, education, upbringing and culture, as well as their attitude to the law. And when the migration policy is carried out without proper filtration, very often people come to the country, who then organize criminal networks in a foreign country.
This situation is somewhat smoothed out, for example in the United States, because the U.S. is basically a country of migrants, but nevertheless, even in the U.S. the filtering of migrants is constantly toughening.
As I said, there are many more reasons, and the French naturally know more about them than I do.
And the problem of migrants is acute all over the world. Russia is the third largest country in terms of the number of migrants on its territory, behind only the United States and Germany. The main flow of migrants is people from Ukraine and Central Asian states. I know the market background to the influx of migrants, they are most often used as cheap labor, in unskilled jobs and in the construction business, I know who lobbies for the influx of migrants, for these purposes, and I do not like it. I don't like it because businessmen, solving situational problems to ensure their profits, do not care about the interests and peace of mind of Russian citizens. I think the same reasons exist in the migration policy of the French authorities.
Let me give one example to be specific, so that my point of view will finally become clear to everyone.
In Russia, from time immemorial, there are quite numerous diasporas: Armenians and Azerbaijanis. Consequently, there are a lot of migrants from these countries in Russia. Armenians are Christians, and Azerbaijanis are Muslims. Relations between them have always been tense. When there was the last Nagorno-Karabakh conflict in 2020, Russians witnessed mass demonstrations and riots among citizens of Armenia and Azerbaijan on Russian territory. They were fighting with each other, smashing up property, but most importantly, they were violating the laws of the country they were in. The Azerbaijanis carried the flags of Turkey, which supported them in the conflict, and this on the territory of Russia! The comments of people and law enforcement agencies were responded to very aggressively. That's why people who want peace and order in their own native territories and in their own country have a negative attitude towards these processes. And the state policy that supports these phenomena, or is not aware of all the negative consequences due to its stupid and unprofessional actions, is condemned by citizens.

I was in Nice in December 2021 and just got on a walk on the day when the Algerian football team won some major tournament in Africa and the city was literally all in green and white flags, festivities and holidays. I did not notice any aggression towards other nationalities. But the scale surprised me. Is it bad for France? Hard to say. In my opinion, people who come to France to get an education and then either return to their countries to apply their education is a plus for France. Labor migrants who come to perform various low-skilled jobs are also a plus for France (this increases the value of education for native French people). But migrants who go only for benefits and sit on the neck of the state and constantly demand something - this is a disaster. And too loyal policy not only of France, but also of many other countries in this aspect is very risky for the future. Any extreme is dangerous. The issue of cultural differences is also very important. I think all European countries need to strengthen the requirements of migration policy.

Well said

Et voilà la preuve la plus sûre et la plus classique que tu es un gauchiste El Major : Comme tout bon gauchiste, tu n'as au cun argument, et donc tu me traites de fasciste. Mais c'est tout simplemebnt toi le fasciste, qui n'accepte pas qu'on pense et dise différemment de toi, c'est ça le fascisme, tu es le fascisme. Car le vrai fascisme, c'est le communisme, c'est le gauchisme.

Pour que chacun comprenne mieux :

Le fascisme, c'est basiquement l'association de trois grands principes. Le parti unique, l'embrigadement de la jeunesse et le culte de l'être suprême.

Dans l'histoire contemporaine, on retrouve la forme la plus pure du fascisme dans les régimes communistes. L'URSS de Staline, la Chine de Mao, la Corée du Nord en sont des exemples concrets.

Et depuis plusieurs années maintenant, le fascisme a pris une nouvelle forme, principalement en Occident, ce que j'appelle le nouveau fascisme.

C'est la dictature de la pensée unique. Sans s'en rendre compte la plupart du temps, nous sommes conditionnés depuis notre enfance à cette pensée unique. C'est un vértable bourrage de crâne institutionnalisé, des idées préconçues qu'on nous répète à longeur de temps, et que par ricochet nous finissons par répéter à notre tour comme des perroquets.

la diffusion se fait en même temps à travers différents canaux. L'éducation nationale et les universités, les médias (presse écrite et paier, télévision et radio), les arts (principalement le cinéma et le théâtre, mais pas que), et désormais les GAFAM qui sont rapidement devenus la tête de gondole de l'endotrinement généralisé.

Toutes ces institutions diffusent allègrement la pensée unique, un mélange inepte de notions toutes plus hasardeuses les unes que les autres, mais auxquelles il faut strictement se conformer sous peine d'être pointés du doigt et frappés du sceau de l'infâmie.

Tu oses penser différemment, et pire exprimer une opinion qui diffère ? Alors c'est le déluge des jugements sans fondement et des insultes qui t'assurent rapidement la mort sociale. Fasciste, raciste, macho ... ça ne repose sur rien, c'est vide de sens, il n'y a aucun argument ni aucune explication : Hé bien c'est ça la pensée unique.

Moi j'appelle ça le gauchisme, car c'est exactement de cette manière que fontionne tout le système. De individus bêtes, incultes, qui répondent parfaitement à l'endoctrinement dont ils ont été les victimes malgré eux et qui traitent leurs semblables plus intelligents et plus cultivés de fascistes car ces derniers ont osé penser et s'exprimer différemment.

Aujourd'hui on a tort d'appeler un chat un chat, on a tort de voir la réalité telle qu'elle est là où les endoctrinés se complaisent dans le mensonge et l'illusion. Vilain fasciste celui qui dénonce la vérité. Pire : raciste ! Allez hop, mort sociale assurée. Plus de compte twitter, plus de facebook, les gens qui te détestent comme si tu avais tué un membre de leur famille.

Petite astuce pour reconnaître un commentaire de gauchiste : vous n'y trouverez aucun pensée construite, aucune logique, aucun lien de cause à effet explicité et argumenté. Par contre du jugement à l'emporte-pièce, des phrases toutes faites sans aucun lien entre elles, sans pertinence, des poncifs, bref un discours sans queue ni tête mais toujours plein de bon sentiment qui rassure et qui ne heurte pas ta sensibilité, parce que c'est important d'être gentil et positif ...

You came into the conversationyou were not a part of calling me a stupid leftist that is stupid about everything and you end up suprised when someone fight fire with fire. What in your previous posts did warrant a serious answer ?

You standard answer that everyone that disagree with your far ringt shit is the actual facisist is a common theme among you lunatics so go ahead and cry.

I have no interest talking to you and out of respect for Pierre this should go back to french politics