RUSSIA - UKRAINE 2022 CONFLICT

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MVitaly5 wrote:
Wed May 11, 2022 11:05 pm
pierro wrote:
Wed May 11, 2022 10:50 pm
Yes, it looks like my mistake, the photo is really from Belarus, didn't check the source correctly, but recently the idiocy of the policy of the leaders of Russia and Belarus is so similar that it is sometimes difficult to distinguish. Well, even though I only disgraced myself once here, it's not a picture of Bonnie and Clyde all over the country to show on TV and present them as veterans
Where are you from, righteous man?
Let's talk about your country's politics, shall we?
But you should be even more ashamed of yourself and your country's politics!
There have been many such "righteous" people here, ready to discuss and scold Russia and Ukraine, but they themselves are too shy to name their "political successes". Most of the people in this forum thread are probably from Europe and Eastern Europe. Well, I'll tell you in confidence, you certainly have nothing to be proud of. You simply have no politics of your own, your overseas lord decides everything for you.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whataboutism
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MVitaly5 wrote:
Wed May 11, 2022 11:05 pm
pierro wrote:
Wed May 11, 2022 10:50 pm
Yes, it looks like my mistake, the photo is really from Belarus, didn't check the source correctly, but recently the idiocy of the policy of the leaders of Russia and Belarus is so similar that it is sometimes difficult to distinguish. Well, even though I only disgraced myself once here, it's not a picture of Bonnie and Clyde all over the country to show on TV and present them as veterans
Where are you from, righteous man?
Let's talk about your country's politics, shall we?
But you should be even more ashamed of yourself and your country's politics!
There have been many such "righteous" people here, ready to discuss and scold Russia and Ukraine, but they themselves are too shy to name their "political successes". Most of the people in this forum thread are probably from Europe and Eastern Europe. Well, I'll tell you in confidence, you certainly have nothing to be proud of. You simply have no politics of your own, your overseas lord decides everything for you.
in these times it is more important how you call the events in Ukraine. This is the mark of humanity. It doesn’t matter what country you are from, you can have at least 10 degrees in various fields of science, but if you continue to believe in fairy tales about the Nazis in Ukraine, that Crimea itself wanted to be annexed, that there were fake murders and rapes in Bucha and Irpen, that the whole the bombed peaceful Mariupol is one big military headquarters of Azov, then I feel sorry for you - humanity is not about you at all.

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MVitaly5 wrote:
Wed May 11, 2022 8:10 pm
I take it that the owner of the forum, gives the go-ahead to a person who has been insulting Russia and the Russians in every post for several days now?
I've been watching this for days now, and I've kept quiet!

I don't care if he insults me personally or the Russian leadership, but he purposefully insults Russian people, the Russian nation and the sovereign state!

Honestly Vitaly it's not about who insult who anymore here, it's just I was very busy recently and also sad for the loss of Kai Taylor who was a great friend.
I am so tired about war in general, not only between RU and UKR but also on the social media's and forums ...
Sunday after the death of Kai, I went in the forest with my little baby on me and while walking did a deep analyse about how our world has became and people has they became etc ...

Yesterday after the WUNF with Alexandra Targaryen I had a lunch with her and my team, but also Tiffany Doll and Bruno SX. A friend of mine famous lawyer in France brought his GF to visit Budapest and join us but she is a "feminist " and after few minutes it was the war at the table, particulary between Bruno and her but also me. I have understood how now many humans after the pressure orchestred by Soros team and this 2 years of hard life due to Covid adding now the fear of the war with Russia, makes many brains COLLAPSE and carry only a huge angryness against ALL !!!
I miss my youth when all was easier between people ...

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"I miss my youth when all was easier between people ..."

I am very happy that I was born in 1962 and experienced life without internet and social media for about 30 years.

The poor people who are born without this experience and consider all this social media crap about fighting for the "right" cause as normal. Before the internet you had your circle of friends to discuss things, now every jackass on the planet can join hands with each other to tell the "truth"...

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pierro wrote:
Thu May 12, 2022 7:30 am
in these times it is more important how you call the events in Ukraine. This is the mark of humanity. It doesn’t matter what country you are from, you can have at least 10 degrees in various fields of science, but if you continue to believe in fairy tales about the Nazis in Ukraine, that Crimea itself wanted to be annexed, that there were fake murders and rapes in Bucha and Irpen, that the whole the bombed peaceful Mariupol is one big military headquarters of Azov, then I feel sorry for you - humanity is not about you at all.
What makes you think you're telling the truth?
Maybe you should feel sorry for yourself that you are so naive that you are being manipulated like a child and told all these fables.
Unlike you, sitting on a couch somewhere in Europe and watching TV, where you are told nonsense, I was personally in Mariupol and Volnovakha on April 23, and I know what is true and what is false. In any case, I defined it for myself, and I do not want to lie to myself! Well, of course, when a person wants to know only what is convenient, when he chose the "guilty one" for himself long ago, it is useless for him to bring any alternative arguments.

And most importantly!
You, in vain, think that the way you think, many other Europeans think.
I, communicate in many forums, where opinions are extremely polarized, and not all Europeans and Americans share your point of view. Rather the opposite! That's because they respect themselves and don't want to be manipulated. They may not like Russia, or they may treat it neutrally, but they do not want to use lies! You are all, blatantly pushed towards a global war, where Europe will be destroyed in 10 minutes, and you still can't wait.

Here, the opinion of a French doctor, who, unlike you, would be in Kiev and Western Ukraine, only his opinion is quite different! What, do you say he is also an agent of the Kremlin? You have all Kremlin agents, people who say an alternative point of view that doesn't fit your Russophobic Western mainstream.
https://youtu.be/nQFpz6s2ufc

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For you all is western/nato propagando or staged / done by UAF (like Bucha)
For me, i do not belive anything from russian state or media for various reasons and what happend in the last years...

neither of us will change his opionion

So be ready to call the next posting staged and fake:

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PIERRE WOODMAN wrote:
Thu May 12, 2022 7:35 am

Honestly Vitaly it's not about who insult who anymore here, it's just I was very busy recently and also sad for the loss of Kai Taylor who was a great friend.
I am so tired about war in general, not only between RU and UKR but also on the social media's and forums ...
Sunday after the death of Kai, I went in the forest with my little baby on me and while walking did a deep analyse about how our world has became and people has they became etc ...

Yesterday after the WUNF with Alexandra Targaryen I had a lunch with her and my team, but also Tiffany Doll and Bruno SX. A friend of mine famous lawyer in France brought his GF to visit Budapest and join us but she is a "feminist " and after few minutes it was the war at the table, particulary between Bruno and her but also me. I have understood how now many humans after the pressure orchestred by Soros team and this 2 years of hard life due to Covid adding now the fear of the war with Russia, makes many brains COLLAPSE and carry only a huge angryness against ALL !!!
I miss my youth when all was easier between people ...

PW
I am truly sorry for the loss of your friends. This is always emotionally and psychologically difficult.
I lost contact with some of my relatives and friends in Ukraine about a week ago. I know that an acquaintance of mine is now begging with her child in Lviv, where she left Kiev. She can't afford the asking price for housing. She's already going back to Kiev, and she doesn't care what happens next. It's all really depressing.
It's just, we have already discussed with you, the topic of insults in this branch of the forum, and I think we came to the point that posts with blatant trolling that do not carry any meaning and arguments, no matter whose position and point of view they defend, will be filtered.

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MVitaly5 wrote:
Thu May 12, 2022 8:17 am

What makes you think you're telling the truth?
Maybe you should feel sorry for yourself that you are so naive that you are being manipulated like a child and told all these fables.
Unlike you, sitting on a couch somewhere in Europe and watching TV, where you are told nonsense, I was personally in Mariupol and Volnovakha on April 23, and I know what is true and what is false. In any case, I defined it for myself, and I do not want to lie to myself! Well, of course, when a person wants to know only what is convenient, when he chose the "guilty one" for himself long ago, it is useless for him to bring any alternative arguments.

And most importantly!
You, in vain, think that the way you think, many other Europeans think.
I, communicate in many forums, where opinions are extremely polarized, and not all Europeans and Americans share your point of view. Rather the opposite! That's because they respect themselves and don't want to be manipulated. They may not like Russia, or they may treat it neutrally, but they do not want to use lies! You are all, blatantly pushed towards a global war, where Europe will be destroyed in 10 minutes, and you still can't wait.

Here, the opinion of a French doctor, who, unlike you, would be in Kiev and Western Ukraine, only his opinion is quite different! What, do you say he is also an agent of the Kremlin? You have all Kremlin agents, people who say an alternative point of view that doesn't fit your Russophobic Western mainstream.
https://youtu.be/nQFpz6s2ufc
It's not me telling about it, I see materials of worlds news agency like BBC, Reuters etc.
About your words that you persronally was in Mariupol and Volnovakha on Apr, 23. Are you one of the occupiers or just wave flags for propaganda? Did you bring trophies? A washing machine, panties for your girlfriends? Or will you also say that these are all fakes and Russians do not do this?
about all these videos on freshly created channels with ten subscribers and a couple of dozen views.
The world has already seen dozens of crazy versions that Russia rolled out when it shot down MH17, there was also the dispatcher Carlos, and a bunch of other "eyewitnesses". Everything turned out to be a lie. So you can create at least a million such channels in your "russian world" and believe them together. The rest of the world will never again believe a single word of Russian propaganda. But you get paid to lie and that's why you keep lying

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